how will inter do without mourinho next season?

Özil wrote:the bayern squad is very good, at least in forwards and midfield

klose- gomez (and dont talk they are shit, they just dont work for vangaals system right now)

pranjic-tymoschuk-altintop (all superstars for there country)

Pandev must be a big star in his country as well.

I think they could win the league again by default because Milan/Juve are still in transition and Roma have Ranieri, but won't get anywhere near winning the CL. Quarter finals if the round of 16 draw is kind.

Depends a lot on who the manager is though. They really don't want Rafa Benitez...probably better off trying to convince Prandelli not to take the Italian NT job.

Javier Glennetti wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Özil wrote:inter has not won because of there squad, more important in modern football is the attitude and philisophie of an team

and when mourinoho leaves the attitude and philosophie will also change

Of course Mourinho's philosophy is a huge part of their success but if you could pick your best squad from the whole of the Bundesliga it wouldn't match Inter's.

that's a bit like being the most handsome man in a Scott Matthias lookalike contest. Inter's squad isn't any better than Chelsea's for example, Real Madrid's squad pisses all over them. They've underachieved but Inter have overachieved IMO.

I'm sorry, but starting with Cesar being better than Cech over last few years, starting XI of Inter is AT LEAST comparable with Chelsea's and with injuries of Bosingwa and Essien they had better squad during their tie. Your posts make Inter win looking like Porto winning CL - they were favourites in the final, they have a expensive team, supported by rich and passionate owner and they have a top coach. They also have well balanced team, which suits their manager and all of them had a hunger necessary to win competition. They were for sure underdogs against Barcelona, but it's only rivalry when you could say they overachieved.

Javier Glennetti wrote:I believe that the Real Madrid squad is much better than the Inter Milan squad. Not only in terms of quality, but also I'd guestimate that the average age is 3-4 years younger. I would much rather inherit the Real Madrid squad and I think from Inter only Maicon would significantly improve it. Inter fans would probably take 5 or 6 Real players.

I think the entire back 5 of Inter's would significantly improve Real.

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

Javier Glennetti wrote:I believe that the Real Madrid squad is much better than the Inter Milan squad. Not only in terms of quality, but also I'd guestimate that the average age is 3-4 years younger. I would much rather inherit the Real Madrid squad and I think from Inter only Maicon would significantly improve it. Inter fans would probably take 5 or 6 Real players.

I think the entire back 5 of Inter's would significantly improve Real.

Samuel would be awesome for Real Madrid if he ever went there

S4P wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

Javier Glennetti wrote:I believe that the Real Madrid squad is much better than the Inter Milan squad. Not only in terms of quality, but also I'd guestimate that the average age is 3-4 years younger. I would much rather inherit the Real Madrid squad and I think from Inter only Maicon would significantly improve it. Inter fans would probably take 5 or 6 Real players.

I think the entire back 5 of Inter's would significantly improve Real.

Samuel would be awesome for Real Madrid if he ever went there

obsessed

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

S4P wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

Javier Glennetti wrote:I believe that the Real Madrid squad is much better than the Inter Milan squad. Not only in terms of quality, but also I'd guestimate that the average age is 3-4 years younger. I would much rather inherit the Real Madrid squad and I think from Inter only Maicon would significantly improve it. Inter fans would probably take 5 or 6 Real players.

I think the entire back 5 of Inter's would significantly improve Real.

Samuel would be awesome for Real Madrid if he ever went there

obsessed

What do you mean bobo? You said that all of Inter's back 5 would improve Real. We will only know if any of them ever play for Real Madrid, including Samuel.

It's much easier to look good when you have a eam who plies their trade on having a solid defence.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:He has improved Milito

to be fair, he didn't.
Milito played exacty like this last year at Genoa.
It's our fault for thinking that it wouldn't be enough / he wouldn't be able to replicate that for a bigger club.

Romford Pele wrote:It's much easier to look good when you have a eam who plies their trade on having a solid defence.

on the other hand, you can't ply your trade on having a solid defence if you don't have solid defenders.

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

Javier Glennetti wrote:I believe that the Real Madrid squad is much better than the Inter Milan squad. Not only in terms of quality, but also I'd guestimate that the average age is 3-4 years younger. I would much rather inherit the Real Madrid squad and I think from Inter only Maicon would significantly improve it. Inter fans would probably take 5 or 6 Real players.

I think the entire back 5 of Inter's would significantly improve Real.

I agree it would but it is not that simple. It depends on how a team players. The way Real Madrid has traditionally played might not fit with with those players. I think Lucio-Samuel is great and the best defensive pair at the moment but I wouldn't want them in Real.

So it isn't easy to compare. Of Inters team I would take Maicon and Cambiasso. Cesar is better then Casillas but Casillas suits us well because he has usually been very good at playing the sweeper role for us allthough he has been in weak form in the last season or two. But then im comparing the which Inter players I would want for the current Pellegrini team. I don't think Mourinho will play expansive football but I can't see him being allowed to coach with the same freedom as he had in Inter and Chelsea.

abundance wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:He has improved Milito

to be fair, he didn't.
Milito played exacty like this last year at Genoa.
It's our fault for thinking that it wouldn't be enough / he wouldn't be able to replicate that for a bigger club.

Romford Pele wrote:It's much easier to look good when you have a eam who plies their trade on having a solid defence.

on the other hand, you can't ply your trade on having a solid defence if you don't have solid defenders.

This was the same Samuel who was exposed horribly at Madrid. If Inter played a more open, expansive game his frailties would be exposed.

Romford Pele wrote:

abundance wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:He has improved Milito

to be fair, he didn't.
Milito played exacty like this last year at Genoa.
It's our fault for thinking that it wouldn't be enough / he wouldn't be able to replicate that for a bigger club.

Romford Pele wrote:It's much easier to look good when you have a eam who plies their trade on having a solid defence.

on the other hand, you can't ply your trade on having a solid defence if you don't have solid defenders.

This was the same Samuel who was exposed horribly at Madrid. If Inter played a more open, expansive game his frailties would be exposed.

Anyone would have got exposed in that Real backline apart from maybe Nesta.

Look at Samuel's time for Argentina under Bielsa or Roma's scudetto winning season.

Romford Pele wrote:This was the same Samuel who was exposed horribly at Madrid. If Inter played a more open, expansive game his frailties would be exposed.

Man this never grow old. Yeah, Samuel doesn't run and turn fast. I think everybody gets this, and I'd venture to guess there's a reason he's called "the Wall" and not "the Cruiser" or "the Mosquito". Probably.

Every defender has his limits and peculiarities, even at top level.
Defenders that are real universal footballers at top level are few and far between, and go directly in the football Olympus (Beckenbauer, Gentile, Maldini...)

I'm also going to try to point out that Samuel horrible exposure took place during few months at a new club in a new league in a new country with a new manager which was kicked out few weeks in the season and replaced two times with managers with different visions, all in the context of a club and a fanbase which seems to believe that it's enough to print out the new season team sheet on Marca to obtain beautiful football. Maybe, probably, not the best environment to work around one's limits.

But I feel this is just a waste of keypresses, as this is not the point I was trying to argue about.
It's the "It's much easier to look good when you have a eam who plies their trade on having a solid defence" concept instead.
The point is that's easy to say so, but you have to consider that for playing like Inter was playing this year, Samuel qualities were essential.
Try that with defenders that are less that rock solid in the box and you end up failing horribly under quality pressuring opponents, looking inept and getting ridiculed tactically in the process because you allowed them too near to the box by defendeding so deeply.
Chelsea and Barca and even Bayern would have raped all over us if we haven't centrebacks with Samuel's and Lucio's qualities.

abundance wrote:

Romford Pele wrote:This was the same Samuel who was exposed horribly at Madrid. If Inter played a more open, expansive game his frailties would be exposed.

Man this never grow old. Yeah, Samuel doesn't run and turn fast. I think everybody gets this, and I'd venture to guess there's a reason he's called "the Wall" and not "the Cruiser" or "the Mosquito". Probably.

Every defender has his limits and peculiarities, even at top level.
Defenders that are real universal footballers at top level are few and far between, and go directly in the football Olympus (Beckenbauer, Gentile, Maldini...)

I'm also going to try to point out that Samuel horrible exposure took place during few months at a new club in a new league in a new country with a new manager which was kicked out few weeks in the season and replaced two times with managers with different visions, all in the context of a club and a fanbase which seems to believe that it's enough to print out the new season team sheet on Marca to obtain beautiful football. Maybe, probably, not the best environment to work around one's limits.

But I feel this is just a waste of keypresses, as this is not the point I was trying to argue about.
It's the "It's much easier to look good when you have a eam who plies their trade on having a solid defence" concept instead.
The point is that's easy to say so, but you have to consider that for playing like Inter was playing this year, Samuel qualities were essential.
Try that with defenders that are less that rock solid in the box and you end up failing horribly under quality pressuring opponents, looking inept and getting ridiculed tactically in the process because you allowed them too near to the box by defendeding so deeply.
Chelsea and Barca and even Bayern would have raped all over us if we haven't centrebacks with Samuel's and Lucio's qualities.

We hear shit like this all the time on here about defenders like Vidic, Ferdinand, Terry - so it's only fair that a lot of us watching Inter this season in the CL would like to know why Samuel should be above criticism for being involved in a number of reckless, game changing moments that on another day would have seen the Wall sent for an early bath. He isn't a slick defender, he's a thug. Will he go down in the pantheons alongside Beckenbauer, Baresi, even Nesta - hell no, it would be MON style disgrace

PS - congrats on your victory yesterday. Wholly deserved and for a long time fan like yourself, brilliant. Just because I don't like Samuel doesn't mean I have anything against Inter particularly. Not my cup of tea in terms of playing style, but to see a team who hasn't won for so long end up as champions was grand

They brought in the right players and were the smartest side in Europe when it came to transfers. That's why Inter Milan is in the position to claim their European title.

When you win, you try to keep things as close to the same as possible, so their performance next season depends on the other European giants and what they will do to compete with Inter.

Not every defender is like Nesta/Baresi (and it's ornic that you mention Nesta since he is guilty of shirt pulling quite regularly). The less technically gifted and more physicaly defenders like Gentile or Stam got plenty of credit in the past, so why should we not give Samuel credit? Fair enough he's not your cup of tea, you don't have to like him, but redit where it's due...

He's not a thug. That's too simplistic a view to take. Physically he is good (though there are many defenders bigger than him) but what's made him so good over the last 10 years is his positioning and reading of the game. If you're looking for pure thugs - look no further than the likes of Materazzi, Demichelis etc. These guys get exposed regularly because, from a footballing perspective, they are not particularly intellegent.

The lengths bobo goes to to defend Samuel are a MON like disgrace in themselves

S4P wrote:The lengths bobo goes to to defend Samuel are a MON like disgrace in themselves

coming from a guy who is still crying over penalties ot given to Chelsea in the CL.

S4P wrote:The lengths bobo goes to to defend Samuel are a MON like disgrace in themselves

I don't know why he bothers. Samuel already has Lucio doing that for him.

Boom boom chhhh

abundance wrote:Chelsea and Barca and even Bayern would have raped all over us if we haven't centrebacks with Samuel's and Lucio's qualities.

I'm not sure. Your don't play with a high defence, have 2 defensive midfielders, arguably the best goalkeeper in the world and 2 exceptional full backs.

Kalou did rape all over Samuel (for pace) in the Guiseppe Meazza, only to be hurled down

Actually he didn't since Samuel caught up with him.

S4P wrote:

abundance wrote:Chelsea and Barca and even Bayern would have raped all over us if we haven't centrebacks with Samuel's and Lucio's qualities.

I'm not sure. Your don't play with a high defence, have 2 defensive midfielders, arguably the best goalkeeper in the world and 2 exceptional full backs.

Kalou did rape all over Samuel (for pace) in the Guiseppe Meazza, only to be hurled down

Caught up with him, i.e. was behind him the entire time, even when Kalou, in your opinion (and it seems to be ONLY your opinion) "dived".

Bobo, you dont have to defend player's just because they play for the team you support this week.
At best, Samuel went through the back of Kalou and got the ball.

Hlebagone wrote:Bobo, you dont have to defend player's just because they play for the team you support this week.
At best, Samuel went through the back of Kalou and got the ball.

If that had been Rio going through the back of Milito it would have been the most blatant penalty of all time.

it was a clear dive:

Why is Samuel already on the floor? I thought he'd caught up with Kalou?

he did

The picture would show he's still behind him and that his right arm is touching Kalou's left leg.

S4P wrote:Why is Samuel already on the floor? I thought he'd caught up with Kalou?

He did catch up. He then proceeded to lie on the floor behind Kalou, crouching over in the position Bobo has indicated. This then caused Kalou to dive.

FACTS.

A Kalou dive

This just gets better, your bias is unreal.