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    Let's talk about Cesc baby...all summer long

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    Post by The Pröfessör Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:56 pm

    fcb wrote:
    Yes, because signing him from a regional team at the age of 10 is the same as signing him from the academy of another big club by taking advantage of a loophole in the contract laws Rolling Eyes

    Hem fet un.. wrote:

    No, basically it says that it is time for Arsenal to act a bit more realistically. It is a player that wants to leave, that was signed due to the fact that contracts cant be made at that age in Spain (which Arsenal then did for a second time with Merida, and seems to be doing as a general rule all over Europe).

    You two are jokers.

    We did to Barca exactly what they did to Mataro(Fabregas' 1st club). Difference is, we do it when players are 15, 16 or older whilst u do it when they are younger. You go to these regional clubs and take all their best players from them, nothing they can do coz players can't sign contract aged 10 or 11.

    “.........At half-time I asked the coach why I had not seen this kid before. He admitted that when he saw me coming, he had decided not to play him because he knew that if I saw him I would take him.”


    Those quotes are from the Barca scout who discovered Fabregas.

    As i said, get over it, just because he spent 6 years at your club doesn't mean you own him forever.

    We made a lot of sacrifices, took a lot of risk to develop Cesc to the player he's. Wenger sold our captain and a player who was the backbone to all our trophy winning sides to make way for a kid who could barely talk. We changed our style of play and built our team around him. Not that we couldn't afford better players who could give us better chance of winning trophies, but we did that with the belief that this kid would one day be good enough to lead us trophies. And just when he's good enough to do that you want us to gift him to u(yes 30m for Cesc is a gift)? Fuck off!

    Oh i forgot to add, be happy he signed for us which means u always have the chance of signing him coz he was thinking of joining Espanyol which would have made it virtually impossible for u to ever sign him again.

    Hem fet un.. wrote: Also that Wenger and co should make a statue of Laporta and Gaspart due to the fact that Barcelona has poured close to a 100M into Arsenal for a large number of players of dubious quality. So now that Barcelona is ready to pay a good price for a player that was raised at the club and wants to come home, Arsenal needs to act with some realism and allow the player to go.

    I'd like to visit Catalonia one day, great comedians u have over there.

    We did not force u to buy our players. Most of those players were key members of our team, so it's not like u helped us by getting rid of our weak links. We gave u Hleb for peanuts which affected us badly and we even had to buy 2 players to give us what Hleb used to do. If anything we shoud be mad at u for fucking up our season.

    The fact that u can't get the players to perform at the required level is entirely your fault, coz they all did when they were with us.
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    Post by L r dd Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:04 pm

    You realize Cesc wants to leave...
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    Post by shazlx Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:11 pm

    The Professor wrote:
    Hem fet un.. wrote: Also that Wenger and co should make a statue of Laporta and Gaspart due to the fact that Barcelona has poured close to a 100M into Arsenal for a large number of players of dubious quality. So now that Barcelona is ready to pay a good price for a player that was raised at the club and wants to come home, Arsenal needs to act with some realism and allow the player to go.

    I'd like to visit Catalonia one day, great comedians u have over there.

    We did not force u to buy our players. Most of those players were key members of our team, so it's not like u helped us by getting rid of our weak links. We gave u Hleb for peanuts which affected us badly and we even had to buy 2 players to give us what Hleb used to do. If anything we shoud be mad at u for fucking up our season.

    The fact that u can't get the players to perform at the required level is entirely your fault, coz they all did when they were with us.
    ok The most amount of bullshit you will read. We should be grateful of Barcelona consistently buying our best players. Questionable quality? What like Requelme and Ibrahimavic. Just because your club is inflexible regarding formation and style of play and therefore can't fully utilise these players' talents is not anyone else's fault but your club's.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:11 pm

    Don't care

    He willingly signed a contract with a wage increase, he has to respect his signature.
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    Post by shazlx Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:16 pm

    L r dd wrote:You realize Cesc wants to leave...
    So? Why should we sell him for less than what we value him at? If he want's to leave so badly and Barcelona can't afford our valuation then he can make up the difference. And if he can't then all these Barcelona players who so desperately want to play with him can chip in to help him out. Do they think they are going to force Arsenal to accept a lower fee just because they keep begging.
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    Post by L r dd Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:36 pm

    The Professor wrote:Don't care

    He willingly signed a contract with a wage increase, he has to respect his signature.

    Likewise if you willingly set your whole system around one player thats stupid when he can want to leave at anytime. He has saved you from finishing outside the top 4 a few times i think your reasons are very biased and pretty much nonsense. How can Vieira leaving make a difference to todays decision?

    End of the day you stole him from Barca..forget where they got him from they had him he was their player you stole him for peanuts. This idea he is going to stay at Arsenal is fantasy. He'll be a Barca player within 3-4 weeks. Maybe they'll pay more cash or maybe Arsenal will decide it's better than an unhappy player but either way i don't really think your logic makes much sense. Wenger is someone who rarely buys expensive and moans about crazy prices. Now you are trying to set your own crazy price. Not going to happen. He wants out. Cesc was also promised Arsenal would buy to win things hasnt happenend.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:43 pm

    Lrd I wouldn't waste my time going through this whole Fabregas situation with u again.

    How much do u stand to lose if the transfer failed to go through? I hope u have not bet your house, life savings etc on it coz u will be fucked in 3-4 weeks time.

    He is not going anywhere, at least not this summer.
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    Post by L r dd Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:48 pm

    You will see. Arsenal are a selling club it is rare they refuse to let a player who wants to leave go. At the moment they decided 30 mill is not high enough esp when Zlatan and co went for so much. I guess this is fair but im sure Barca will up it to 40-45 and Arsenal will kiss goodbye.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:50 pm


    Do u have your house on it?

    I will miss your contribution on here mon ami
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    Post by L r dd Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:57 pm

    I don't bet on every little thing. Your just thinking short term. Cesc being at Arsenal 2-3 more years is fantasy. So you have to think you cannot keep someone who has been there 7 years now and has decided he wants to go home. If he stays another year and you don't win nothing again whats going to change? He'll be more determined to leave to the point where it's sour and he puts in a transfer request. Right now what is the plan? To convince Cesc he can stay just this year or longer? Really that's never going to happen.

    Wenger is not stupid he wants a good price he knows Cesc is a goner not a gooner. I may put 100 quid on cesc going just cos of our conversation Biggrin
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    Post by Super Progress Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:00 pm

    Christ this is boring.

    Barcelona has no right to be annoyed at Arsenal for ANYTHING. Nobody forced Barcelona to constantly buy players from Arsenal or overpay. If they felt the price was too high then they shouldn't buy him.

    Also I don't think Arsenal fans should be mad at Barcelona either. At the end of the day if Cesc wanted to stay a 100% there is nothing Barcelona players/fans/presidents could do or say to persuade him. The fact that they keep making comments like those posted on here tells me that they know he is willing to move and are doing anything within their power to entice him.

    If Cesc decides to move then it won't be because of anything Barcelona(players/media/president) has done but rather because of Arsenal's continuing failure in competing both on results and transfers.

    At the end of the day I don't think selling him would be that terrible for Arsenal if they bought Ozil for example and used the money on other positions. Obviously they missed out Yaya which was a mistake imo. On the flip side Barcelona don't need him and I struggle to see it working.
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:01 pm

    just let him join barca already! spend the money on ppl that actually wants to play for arsene-l

    sell fibreglass and buy gourcuff & toulalalalan, you know it makes sense.
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    Post by L r dd Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:04 pm

    Cesc has been great for Arsenal as a person and a player if they were a top club he wouldn't be wanting to leave. But Arsenal are not a team who wins things.

    He signed a long contract which is good it gives them a chance to get a good fee. People understood he signed thinking they'd be a top club like Man Utd who wins things not a 3rd/4th placed side. Using the contract to deny him his wishes for long will discourage other players from signing long contracts.

    Arsenal have been about making money not winning things last 4-5 years why the fuck will that change now
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    Post by Super Progress Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:09 pm

    L r dd wrote:Cesc has been great for Arsenal as a person and a player if they were a top club he wouldn't be wanting to leave. But Arsenal are not a team who wins things.

    He signed a long contract which is good it gives them a chance to get a good fee. People understood he signed thinking they'd be a top club like Man Utd who wins things not a 3rd/4th placed side. Using the contract to deny him his wishes for long will discourage other players from signing long contracts.

    Arsenal have been about making money not winning things last 4-5 years why the fuck will that change now
    Perhaps so but who knows. Perhaps if Arsenal had been winning all these years he would feel it would be time to leave and go for his dream. Like Ronaldo Biggrin

    Likewise perhaps if Arsenal keep him and they go on to win he will want to stay. I don't really care what he ends up doing but I don't understand the views from both sets of fans.
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    Post by TM Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:13 pm

    I think Real should do everyone a favour and just sign Cesc, and put an end to this boring saga. We need someone to keep the bench warm next season <Ale>
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    Post by shazlx Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:19 pm

    Super Madrid wrote:

    If Cesc decides to move then it won't be because of anything Barcelona(players/media/president) has done but rather because of Arsenal's continuing failure in competing both on results and transfers.
    That would be true if he wanted to leave Arsenal. He doesn't want to leave he wants to play for Barcelona. There is a difference. Firstly, he won't hate it here if he stays. Secondly, it means we can't auction him to the highest bidder meaning Barcelona don't pay the market valuation.
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    Post by shazlx Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:20 pm

    TM wrote:I think Real should do everyone a favour and just sign Cesc, and put an end to this boring saga. We need someone to keep the bench warm next season <Ale>
    I hope Real come in with an offer Barca can't match.
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    Post by shazlx Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:22 pm

    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:just let him join barca already! spend the money on ppl that actually wants to play for arsene-l

    sell fibreglass and buy gourcuff & toulalalalan, you know it makes sense.
    What money? The money we would want or the money they would want to give up?
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    Post by MightyBarca Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:37 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    Super Madrid wrote:

    If Cesc decides to move then it won't be because of anything Barcelona(players/media/president) has done but rather because of Arsenal's continuing failure in competing both on results and transfers.
    That would be true if he wanted to leave Arsenal. He doesn't want to leave he wants to play for Barcelona. There is a difference. Firstly, he won't hate it here if he stays. Secondly, it means we can't auction him to the highest bidder meaning Barcelona don't pay the market valuation.

    So he doesn't want to leave arsenal but he wants to play for barcelona? Are you fucking stupid?
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    Post by L r dd Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:42 pm

    Arsenal fans Doh
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:43 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:just let him join barca already! spend the money on ppl that actually wants to play for arsene-l

    sell fibreglass and buy gourcuff & toulalalalan, you know it makes sense.
    What money? The money we would want or the money they would want to give up?

    how about a sum in between, doesn't it always work out like that?

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    Post by Matt_AFC Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:43 pm

    L r dd wrote:Arsenal fans Doh

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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:43 pm

    L r dd wrote:Arsenal fans Doh

    cheers
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    Post by Hem fet un.. Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:56 pm

    The Professor wrote:
    fcb wrote:
    Yes, because signing him from a regional team at the age of 10 is the same as signing him from the academy of another big club by taking advantage of a loophole in the contract laws Rolling Eyes

    Hem fet un.. wrote:

    No, basically it says that it is time for Arsenal to act a bit more realistically. It is a player that wants to leave, that was signed due to the fact that contracts cant be made at that age in Spain (which Arsenal then did for a second time with Merida, and seems to be doing as a general rule all over Europe).

    You two are jokers.

    We did to Barca exactly what they did to Mataro(Fabregas' 1st club). Difference is, we do it when players are 15, 16 or older whilst u do it when they are younger. You go to these regional clubs and take all their best players from them, nothing they can do coz players can't sign contract aged 10 or 11.

    “.........At half-time I asked the coach why I had not seen this kid before. He admitted that when he saw me coming, he had decided not to play him because he knew that if I saw him I would take him.”


    Those quotes are from the Barca scout who discovered Fabregas.

    As i said, get over it, just because he spent 6 years at your club doesn't mean you own him forever.

    We made a lot of sacrifices, took a lot of risk to develop Cesc to the player he's. Wenger sold our captain and a player who was the backbone to all our trophy winning sides to make way for a kid who could barely talk. We changed our style of play and built our team around him. Not that we couldn't afford better players who could give us better chance of winning trophies, but we did that with the belief that this kid would one day be good enough to lead us trophies. And just when he's good enough to do that you want us to gift him to u(yes 30m for Cesc is a gift)? Fuck off!

    Oh i forgot to add, be happy he signed for us which means u always have the chance of signing him coz he was thinking of joining Espanyol which would have made it virtually impossible for u to ever sign him again.

    Hem fet un.. wrote: Also that Wenger and co should make a statue of Laporta and Gaspart due to the fact that Barcelona has poured close to a 100M into Arsenal for a large number of players of dubious quality. So now that Barcelona is ready to pay a good price for a player that was raised at the club and wants to come home, Arsenal needs to act with some realism and allow the player to go.

    I'd like to visit Catalonia one day, great comedians u have over there.

    We did not force u to buy our players. Most of those players were key members of our team, so it's not like u helped us by getting rid of our weak links. We gave u Hleb for peanuts which affected us badly and we even had to buy 2 players to give us what Hleb used to do. If anything we shoud be mad at u for fucking up our season.

    The fact that u can't get the players to perform at the required level is entirely your fault, coz they all did when they were with us.

    Did you miss the part where I said that this wasnt my point of view??? If you check then I am not exactly the one who is begging for Cesc to join us.
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    Post by Jaime Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:31 pm

    Hem fet un.. wrote:
    The Professor wrote:
    fcb wrote:
    Yes, because signing him from a regional team at the age of 10 is the same as signing him from the academy of another big club by taking advantage of a loophole in the contract laws Rolling Eyes

    Hem fet un.. wrote:

    No, basically it says that it is time for Arsenal to act a bit more realistically. It is a player that wants to leave, that was signed due to the fact that contracts cant be made at that age in Spain (which Arsenal then did for a second time with Merida, and seems to be doing as a general rule all over Europe).

    You two are jokers.

    We did to Barca exactly what they did to Mataro(Fabregas' 1st club). Difference is, we do it when players are 15, 16 or older whilst u do it when they are younger. You go to these regional clubs and take all their best players from them, nothing they can do coz players can't sign contract aged 10 or 11.

    “.........At half-time I asked the coach why I had not seen this kid before. He admitted that when he saw me coming, he had decided not to play him because he knew that if I saw him I would take him.”


    Those quotes are from the Barca scout who discovered Fabregas.

    As i said, get over it, just because he spent 6 years at your club doesn't mean you own him forever.

    We made a lot of sacrifices, took a lot of risk to develop Cesc to the player he's. Wenger sold our captain and a player who was the backbone to all our trophy winning sides to make way for a kid who could barely talk. We changed our style of play and built our team around him. Not that we couldn't afford better players who could give us better chance of winning trophies, but we did that with the belief that this kid would one day be good enough to lead us trophies. And just when he's good enough to do that you want us to gift him to u(yes 30m for Cesc is a gift)? Fuck off!

    Oh i forgot to add, be happy he signed for us which means u always have the chance of signing him coz he was thinking of joining Espanyol which would have made it virtually impossible for u to ever sign him again.

    Hem fet un.. wrote: Also that Wenger and co should make a statue of Laporta and Gaspart due to the fact that Barcelona has poured close to a 100M into Arsenal for a large number of players of dubious quality. So now that Barcelona is ready to pay a good price for a player that was raised at the club and wants to come home, Arsenal needs to act with some realism and allow the player to go.

    I'd like to visit Catalonia one day, great comedians u have over there.

    We did not force u to buy our players. Most of those players were key members of our team, so it's not like u helped us by getting rid of our weak links. We gave u Hleb for peanuts which affected us badly and we even had to buy 2 players to give us what Hleb used to do. If anything we shoud be mad at u for fucking up our season.

    The fact that u can't get the players to perform at the required level is entirely your fault, coz they all did when they were with us.

    Did you miss the part where I said that this wasnt my point of view??? If you check then I am not exactly the one who is begging for Cesc to join us.

    The Professor! cheers lol!
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    Post by Super Progress Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:02 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    Super Madrid wrote:

    If Cesc decides to move then it won't be because of anything Barcelona(players/media/president) has done but rather because of Arsenal's continuing failure in competing both on results and transfers.
    That would be true if he wanted to leave Arsenal. He doesn't want to leave he wants to play for Barcelona. There is a difference. Firstly, he won't hate it here if he stays. Secondly, it means we can't auction him to the highest bidder meaning Barcelona don't pay the market valuation.
    Doesn't really matter where he wants to leave to as I see it. It isn't Barcelona's fault that he wants to join them.

    Also you don't often have world class players being handled like an auction. The reason Ronaldo cost that high a fee wasn't because other clubs bidding up prices. As I said if he wants to leave you can't act as if it is Barcelona's fault. Arsenal should set the price they want and if Barcelona doesn't want to pay up then don't sell. It is that simple really.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:33 pm

    Hem fet un.. wrote:
    The Professor wrote:
    fcb wrote:
    Yes, because signing him from a regional team at the age of 10 is the same as signing him from the academy of another big club by taking advantage of a loophole in the contract laws Rolling Eyes

    Hem fet un.. wrote:

    No, basically it says that it is time for Arsenal to act a bit more realistically. It is a player that wants to leave, that was signed due to the fact that contracts cant be made at that age in Spain (which Arsenal then did for a second time with Merida, and seems to be doing as a general rule all over Europe).

    You two are jokers.

    We did to Barca exactly what they did to Mataro(Fabregas' 1st club). Difference is, we do it when players are 15, 16 or older whilst u do it when they are younger. You go to these regional clubs and take all their best players from them, nothing they can do coz players can't sign contract aged 10 or 11.

    “.........At half-time I asked the coach why I had not seen this kid before. He admitted that when he saw me coming, he had decided not to play him because he knew that if I saw him I would take him.”


    Those quotes are from the Barca scout who discovered Fabregas.

    As i said, get over it, just because he spent 6 years at your club doesn't mean you own him forever.

    We made a lot of sacrifices, took a lot of risk to develop Cesc to the player he's. Wenger sold our captain and a player who was the backbone to all our trophy winning sides to make way for a kid who could barely talk. We changed our style of play and built our team around him. Not that we couldn't afford better players who could give us better chance of winning trophies, but we did that with the belief that this kid would one day be good enough to lead us trophies. And just when he's good enough to do that you want us to gift him to u(yes 30m for Cesc is a gift)? Fuck off!

    Oh i forgot to add, be happy he signed for us which means u always have the chance of signing him coz he was thinking of joining Espanyol which would have made it virtually impossible for u to ever sign him again.

    Hem fet un.. wrote: Also that Wenger and co should make a statue of Laporta and Gaspart due to the fact that Barcelona has poured close to a 100M into Arsenal for a large number of players of dubious quality. So now that Barcelona is ready to pay a good price for a player that was raised at the club and wants to come home, Arsenal needs to act with some realism and allow the player to go.

    I'd like to visit Catalonia one day, great comedians u have over there.

    We did not force u to buy our players. Most of those players were key members of our team, so it's not like u helped us by getting rid of our weak links. We gave u Hleb for peanuts which affected us badly and we even had to buy 2 players to give us what Hleb used to do. If anything we shoud be mad at u for fucking up our season.

    The fact that u can't get the players to perform at the required level is entirely your fault, coz they all did when they were with us.

    Did you miss the part where I said that this wasnt my point of view??? If you check then I am not exactly the one who is begging for Cesc to join us.

    NO I didn't, it was for your other comments that I called u a joker. I just included that bit to make a general comment on Barca fans thinking what we did to them was any different to what they do to plenty other clubs in their region.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:36 pm

    Jaime wrote:
    Hem fet un.. wrote:
    The Professor wrote:
    fcb wrote:
    Yes, because signing him from a regional team at the age of 10 is the same as signing him from the academy of another big club by taking advantage of a loophole in the contract laws Rolling Eyes

    Hem fet un.. wrote:

    No, basically it says that it is time for Arsenal to act a bit more realistically. It is a player that wants to leave, that was signed due to the fact that contracts cant be made at that age in Spain (which Arsenal then did for a second time with Merida, and seems to be doing as a general rule all over Europe).

    You two are jokers.

    We did to Barca exactly what they did to Mataro(Fabregas' 1st club). Difference is, we do it when players are 15, 16 or older whilst u do it when they are younger. You go to these regional clubs and take all their best players from them, nothing they can do coz players can't sign contract aged 10 or 11.

    “.........At half-time I asked the coach why I had not seen this kid before. He admitted that when he saw me coming, he had decided not to play him because he knew that if I saw him I would take him.”


    Those quotes are from the Barca scout who discovered Fabregas.

    As i said, get over it, just because he spent 6 years at your club doesn't mean you own him forever.

    We made a lot of sacrifices, took a lot of risk to develop Cesc to the player he's. Wenger sold our captain and a player who was the backbone to all our trophy winning sides to make way for a kid who could barely talk. We changed our style of play and built our team around him. Not that we couldn't afford better players who could give us better chance of winning trophies, but we did that with the belief that this kid would one day be good enough to lead us trophies. And just when he's good enough to do that you want us to gift him to u(yes 30m for Cesc is a gift)? Fuck off!

    Oh i forgot to add, be happy he signed for us which means u always have the chance of signing him coz he was thinking of joining Espanyol which would have made it virtually impossible for u to ever sign him again.

    Hem fet un.. wrote: Also that Wenger and co should make a statue of Laporta and Gaspart due to the fact that Barcelona has poured close to a 100M into Arsenal for a large number of players of dubious quality. So now that Barcelona is ready to pay a good price for a player that was raised at the club and wants to come home, Arsenal needs to act with some realism and allow the player to go.

    I'd like to visit Catalonia one day, great comedians u have over there.

    We did not force u to buy our players. Most of those players were key members of our team, so it's not like u helped us by getting rid of our weak links. We gave u Hleb for peanuts which affected us badly and we even had to buy 2 players to give us what Hleb used to do. If anything we shoud be mad at u for fucking up our season.

    The fact that u can't get the players to perform at the required level is entirely your fault, coz they all did when they were with us.

    Did you miss the part where I said that this wasnt my point of view??? If you check then I am not exactly the one who is begging for Cesc to join us.

    The Professor! cheers lol!

    So from everything that has been posted here and heavily debated that is what u found most worthy to comment on? And u actually find it funny....

    Not the 1st time u have done it with discussions where I'm involved in, u must be a very lonely 31 year old.
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    Post by Jaime Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:44 pm

    The Professor wrote:
    Jaime wrote:
    Hem fet un.. wrote:
    The Professor wrote:
    fcb wrote:
    Yes, because signing him from a regional team at the age of 10 is the same as signing him from the academy of another big club by taking advantage of a loophole in the contract laws Rolling Eyes

    Hem fet un.. wrote:

    No, basically it says that it is time for Arsenal to act a bit more realistically. It is a player that wants to leave, that was signed due to the fact that contracts cant be made at that age in Spain (which Arsenal then did for a second time with Merida, and seems to be doing as a general rule all over Europe).

    You two are jokers.

    We did to Barca exactly what they did to Mataro(Fabregas' 1st club). Difference is, we do it when players are 15, 16 or older whilst u do it when they are younger. You go to these regional clubs and take all their best players from them, nothing they can do coz players can't sign contract aged 10 or 11.

    “.........At half-time I asked the coach why I had not seen this kid before. He admitted that when he saw me coming, he had decided not to play him because he knew that if I saw him I would take him.”


    Those quotes are from the Barca scout who discovered Fabregas.

    As i said, get over it, just because he spent 6 years at your club doesn't mean you own him forever.

    We made a lot of sacrifices, took a lot of risk to develop Cesc to the player he's. Wenger sold our captain and a player who was the backbone to all our trophy winning sides to make way for a kid who could barely talk. We changed our style of play and built our team around him. Not that we couldn't afford better players who could give us better chance of winning trophies, but we did that with the belief that this kid would one day be good enough to lead us trophies. And just when he's good enough to do that you want us to gift him to u(yes 30m for Cesc is a gift)? Fuck off!

    Oh i forgot to add, be happy he signed for us which means u always have the chance of signing him coz he was thinking of joining Espanyol which would have made it virtually impossible for u to ever sign him again.

    Hem fet un.. wrote: Also that Wenger and co should make a statue of Laporta and Gaspart due to the fact that Barcelona has poured close to a 100M into Arsenal for a large number of players of dubious quality. So now that Barcelona is ready to pay a good price for a player that was raised at the club and wants to come home, Arsenal needs to act with some realism and allow the player to go.

    I'd like to visit Catalonia one day, great comedians u have over there.

    We did not force u to buy our players. Most of those players were key members of our team, so it's not like u helped us by getting rid of our weak links. We gave u Hleb for peanuts which affected us badly and we even had to buy 2 players to give us what Hleb used to do. If anything we shoud be mad at u for fucking up our season.

    The fact that u can't get the players to perform at the required level is entirely your fault, coz they all did when they were with us.

    Did you miss the part where I said that this wasnt my point of view??? If you check then I am not exactly the one who is begging for Cesc to join us.

    The Professor! cheers lol!

    So from everything that has been posted here and heavily debated that is what u found most worthy to comment on? And u actually find it funny....

    Not the 1st time u have done it with discussions where I'm involved in, u must be a very lonely 31 year old.

    I simply cannot believe how easily wound up you get over rumours and banter and the like. You were probably fabulously offended when they put the Barcelona shirt on Cesc at the WC celebrations. And for what? Cesc is still an Arsenal player.

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    Post by Hem fet un.. Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:44 pm

    The Professor wrote:
    Hem fet un.. wrote:
    The Professor wrote:
    fcb wrote:
    Yes, because signing him from a regional team at the age of 10 is the same as signing him from the academy of another big club by taking advantage of a loophole in the contract laws Rolling Eyes

    Hem fet un.. wrote:

    No, basically it says that it is time for Arsenal to act a bit more realistically. It is a player that wants to leave, that was signed due to the fact that contracts cant be made at that age in Spain (which Arsenal then did for a second time with Merida, and seems to be doing as a general rule all over Europe).

    You two are jokers.

    We did to Barca exactly what they did to Mataro(Fabregas' 1st club). Difference is, we do it when players are 15, 16 or older whilst u do it when they are younger. You go to these regional clubs and take all their best players from them, nothing they can do coz players can't sign contract aged 10 or 11.

    “.........At half-time I asked the coach why I had not seen this kid before. He admitted that when he saw me coming, he had decided not to play him because he knew that if I saw him I would take him.”


    Those quotes are from the Barca scout who discovered Fabregas.

    As i said, get over it, just because he spent 6 years at your club doesn't mean you own him forever.

    We made a lot of sacrifices, took a lot of risk to develop Cesc to the player he's. Wenger sold our captain and a player who was the backbone to all our trophy winning sides to make way for a kid who could barely talk. We changed our style of play and built our team around him. Not that we couldn't afford better players who could give us better chance of winning trophies, but we did that with the belief that this kid would one day be good enough to lead us trophies. And just when he's good enough to do that you want us to gift him to u(yes 30m for Cesc is a gift)? Fuck off!

    Oh i forgot to add, be happy he signed for us which means u always have the chance of signing him coz he was thinking of joining Espanyol which would have made it virtually impossible for u to ever sign him again.

    Hem fet un.. wrote: Also that Wenger and co should make a statue of Laporta and Gaspart due to the fact that Barcelona has poured close to a 100M into Arsenal for a large number of players of dubious quality. So now that Barcelona is ready to pay a good price for a player that was raised at the club and wants to come home, Arsenal needs to act with some realism and allow the player to go.

    I'd like to visit Catalonia one day, great comedians u have over there.

    We did not force u to buy our players. Most of those players were key members of our team, so it's not like u helped us by getting rid of our weak links. We gave u Hleb for peanuts which affected us badly and we even had to buy 2 players to give us what Hleb used to do. If anything we shoud be mad at u for fucking up our season.

    The fact that u can't get the players to perform at the required level is entirely your fault, coz they all did when they were with us.

    Did you miss the part where I said that this wasnt my point of view??? If you check then I am not exactly the one who is begging for Cesc to join us.

    NO I didn't, it was for your other comments that I called u a joker. I just included that bit to make a general comment on Barca fans thinking what we did to them was any different to what they do to plenty other clubs in their region.

    Ahh ok. I am not obsessed with signing Cesc but I must admit that I find the righteous indignation of Arsenal fans hilarious considering the way that Arsenal "signed" Cesc and Merida from us Smile


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