Deutschland vs Ghana

Ä wrote:

the problem is that Löw kicked out experienced players like Schäfer, and selected equally inexperienced left-backs as Aogo

Schäfer was utter garbage whenever he played for Germany and had a poor season with Wolfsburg too. No way should he be ahead of Badstuber, Boateng, Jansen or even Aogo in the pecking order.

hase

one of our problems these days is that players get played out of position too much

an on-form "hanging-forward" is not necessarily a good "lone-stirker" though

neither is a decent centre-back like Badstuber better suited than an "average season full-back" like Schäfer in the left-back position

as for Schäfer having had an poor season at Wolfsburg

maybe

but INCOMPETENT Veh was in charge, and later, Köstner was a quite controversial amongst players in the dressing room as well

as you know

I am NOT a fan of Löw AT ALL

but one thing he is getting RIGHT

club/Bundesliga form is not necessarily relevant for how you can play for Germany

Löw was RIGHT to stick with Poldi and Klose

and with Poldi in particular you can see that a player, when he feels the manager trusts him, SUDDENLY and MYSTERIOUSLY shines

there is a reason why Magath is in love with Schäfer

if Löw could find that love in his heart, the left-back positional problem would be solved

think about it

since I am and always have been a HUGE fan of Jansen, I might give him a shot though

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Beenhakker and Advocaat think Germany will walk it easy

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/dfb-team/1006/News/wm-2010-leo-beenhakker-und-dick-advocaat-glauben-an-deutschland.html

Europe's finest. Stop dreaming Otto. Anyway that should be a cracking game. Still think Germany should win, but in this world cup anything can happen as we have seen with Serbia beating luckily Germany.

via Häschen from the Germany thread

Stiftung Haeschentest wrote:Just looked up our ref against Ghana.

It's Brazilian journalist Carlos Eugênio Simon.

Here's what Wiki has on him:

During the 2006 FIFA World Cup, Simon officiated at three matches. In the second-round match between Germany and Sweden, he came under criticism from BBC pundits for sending off Sweden's Teddy Lučić for a second bookable offence. He also controversially grinned at Lučić after pulling out the red card.

In 2009 Simon was banned for six weeks amid accusations of incompetence and corruption. Simon was suspended by his national federation for 'a repetition of mistakes' and accusations that he disallowed a perfectly good goal for Palmeiras against Fluminense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Eug%C3%AAnio_Simon

Holy fucking shit

He's also very card-happy.

http://www.weltfussball.de/schiedsrichter_profil/carlos-simon/1/1/

Otto, Schäfer was tested by Löw, and he was tested when he was on-form, but still failed miserably.

Against a third-rate Azerbaijan

Marcel Schäfer: Hatte große Schwierigkeiten auf der linken Abwehrseite. Konnte sich im Spiel nach vorne nicht einbringen. Note: 5

http://www.welt.de/sport/fussball/article4312196/DFB-Elf-offenbart-Schwaechen-in-der-Defensive.html

Against South Africa

Marcel Schäfer: Der Wolfsburger war zwar etwas besser als noch zuletzt in Aserbaidschan. Aber überzeugend ist das nicht, was er da auf der linken Seite spielt. Er setzte kaum Akzente, seine Bälle landeten oftmals im Aus oder beim Gegner. Note: 4

http://www.welt.de/sport/fussball/article4471223/Die-deutschen-Spieler-in-der-Einzelkritik.html

Against China

Marcel Schäfer: Defensiv ähnlich wie Lahm mit wenig Arbeit. Offensiv mit einigen ordentlichen Vorstößen, aber nicht effektiv genug in seinem Schaffen. Seine Flanken fanden kaum ihr Ziel. Baute in der zweiten Halbzeit zudem noch ab. Note 4

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/dfb-team/0905/china-deutschland/china-deutschland-einzelkritik-noten-schweinsteiger-bester-spieler-huth-ganz-schwach.html

Sie sagen »jetzt«. Das würde bedeuten, dass es mit der Funkstille zwischen Ihnen beiden nicht so bleiben muss.

Das kann so sein oder eben nicht. Er ist mein Bruder und bleibt mein Bruder. Ich wünsche ihm wirklich das Beste, aber im Moment ist es halt so, dass wir uns nichts zu sagen haben. Das kommt auch in anderen Familien vor.

Nur spielt sich das nicht wie bei Ihnen in aller Öffentlichkeit ab.

Und genau das ist ärgerlich. Der Name Boateng hat in der Öffentlichkeit jetzt einen negativen Touch. Aber auch Kevin ist ein Mensch, der Fehler macht. Er hat das nicht mit Absicht gemacht, er wollte Michael Ballack ja nicht die WM nehmen. Dann kann es nicht sein, dass so viele Menschen Seiten im Internet gründen und rassistisch werden. Was meinen Sie, wie viele E-Mails mein Berater erhalten hat, deren Inhalt gegen mich gerichtet ist und rein nichts mit Fußball zu tun hat. Das kann ich nicht verstehen, da werde ich auch wütend.
http://www.11freunde.de/international/130764/kevin_foulte_nicht_absichtlich

Don't Panic wrote:

pete1 wrote:Bit pointless. I guess that happens when you wear your grandfathers hand-me down underpants. That tends to cut of circulation of blood. Take them off and feel your neurons popping with delight. Soon original thought will follow.

Is this a German attempt at an insult?


I honestly don't know what you're saying here.

Oh dear, dense as well.

pete1 wrote:

Don't Panic wrote:

pete1 wrote:Bit pointless. I guess that happens when you wear your grandfathers hand-me down underpants. That tends to cut of circulation of blood. Take them off and feel your neurons popping with delight. Soon original thought will follow.

Is this a German attempt at an insult?


I honestly don't know what you're saying here.

Oh dear, dense as well.

How the fuck did you lot ever get to rule the EU?

Another dodgy ref. I'm definitely not a fan of conspiracy theories, but it looks like FiFA are doing their best to keep the last African team in the competition, knowing that all the others will very likely be knocked out.

I hope that he will better than the Spanish one (Serbia match) at least.

Dont think the ref can save the last Africans from the our relentless attacks

FIFA has just a strange system in using their refs, like the German one for the England game. How can they do that? When England is a possible opponent? There are so many other games he could do..

Dodgy ref? I remember that conte cause he smilled while he sended that Swede off againts you Germans. Should be happy with him!

We were the home team back then!

Besides, Sweden were shit and would have lost anyway.

by the way

Germany LEGEND Sammer, the current Sports Director of our Youth Programme

has not been sighted in South Africa so far

the reason: he fears that his presence will fuel rumours that he is just awaiting Löw's impending demise

bild reports that Löw/Bierhoff have not had contact with Sammer for about a YEAR

so

the UPSIDE of Ghana beating Germany would be that Löw is on the next plane back to the Vaterland

and Sammer, out NEXT national manager, can still watch the REAL highlights of the World Cup

what do you make of Muntari throwing a hissyfit because he has not played all that much so far ?

apparently, he was near suspension and is only still in SA because he apologised to the manager and players

IF Ghana are NOT united, it will be difficult for them me thinks

Fey wrote:Dodgy ref? I remember that conte cause he smilled while he sended that Swede off againts you Germans. Should be happy with him!

Don't forget that they also needed the ref to get out of their (piss easy) group

Axeslammer wrote:

Fey wrote:Dodgy ref? I remember that conte cause he smilled while he sended that Swede off againts you Germans. Should be happy with him!

Don't forget that they also needed the ref to get out of their (piss easy) group

And how is that exactly, my objective Dutch friend?

Löw will probably select Cacau , he indicates

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/nationalelf/startseite/526728/artikel_Ich-tendiere-zu-Cacau.html

kind of bizarre, really

IF Ghana park the bus initially or eventually, you need somebody good in the air

a point-man

which Cacau is NOT

ie

Löw should go with Gomez or Kiessling

Kahn even thinks that Germany play with TWO strikers

You need to win. Surely you don't want Gomez on the pitch

apparently, Gomez is doing well in training

but I agree

he is short of confidence

Kiessling should be it

we really need Kevin now

quite amusing sidenote

Germans always have a Plan B

they are ALWAYS prepared

it's in this spirit , that the DFB has already booked seats on the next Lufthansa flight back to Germany

IF they lose

Ä wrote:quite amusing sidenote

Germans always have a Plan B

they are ALWAYS prepared

it's in this spirit , that the DFB has already booked seats on the next Lufthansa flight back to Germany

IF they lose

They better learn how to swim then

It's a disgrace Kiessling doesnt get a chance

I think tomorrow it will be a fysical battle and thus it comes handy if you can dominate the air with a guy like Kiessling!

What is it with you and Leverkusen players? First ROLFES, now Kießling. Why aren't you lobbying for Kroos at least...

Cause Kroos doesnt have the X-factor for me, I judge German players on their names not on their qualities. Besides Leverkussen always gets overlooked by anyone who is employed for DFB Werder Bremen.

"DFB Werder Bremen"? What a pisstake! No Frings, no Wiese #1, no Marin in the starting XI etc. etc.

Deutschland needs more, not less Werder!

Khedira is doing fine, besides after that cup final Torsten made it clear he shouldnt be near the squad anymore. Wiese is a queer, and Neuer is younger and more talented anyway, for the future its better to let Neuer start. Marin can start when he has to shave himself on daily basis.

Ozil can start though. But thats it! I've had it with the pro-Werder bias from the DFB!

All out attack tomorrow! Auf geht's Deutschland, Angriff zum Sieg!

ok, guys

PREDICTION TIME

my hunch is

Germany 4
Ghana 0

any better ideas ?

2-2

let me revise my prediction

6:1

for Germany