Barcelona - Real Madrid quadruple clasico

Torrente wrote:

Anybody else see the resemblance between this and the match last night?

Calidad wrote:
I don't like Di Maria. He's too selfish and insular and lacks composure and finesse in his play. Like a much worse version of Ronaldo. But credit to Madrid for showing fight and bottle at 10 men, and Ozil done very well when coming on. Definitely improving as a team.

fcb wrote:Thank fuck then that Spanish refs realise that if you grab someone by the throat, it's a penalty

Cristiano wrote:I didn't even get to see the match, but from wat I've read here it seems we played better after going down to ten.

Only thing I will say in response to the type of football the we apparently play, I may be the only RM fan that thinks this but I wouldn't give a fuck less at this moment after seasons of winning fuck all what football we play as long as we win something I'm happy.
Wld rather knock them out of CL playing 'stoke football' than get molested again trying to play good football.
Yes a lot of money has been spent but everyone here knows including those whose keeps pointing out the money spent that you can't buy team cohesion needed for good football.

Jaime wrote:Marca and AS both 'revealing' Mourinho's XI for the final of the Copa del Rey:


-------------------Casillas

Arbeloa-----S. Ramos-----Carvalho-----Marcelo

--------Khedira-----Pepe------Alonso

Ozil--------------Ronaldo------------Di Maria

Cristiano wrote:I didn't even get to see the match, but from wat I've read here it seems we played better after going down to ten.

Only thing I will say in response to the type of football the we apparently play, I may be the only RM fan that thinks this but I wouldn't give a fuck less at this moment after seasons of winning fuck all what football we play as long as we win something I'm happy.
Wld rather knock them out of CL playing 'stoke football' than get molested again trying to play good football.
Yes a lot of money has been spent but everyone here knows including those whose keeps pointing out the money spent that you can't buy team cohesion needed for good football.

Jaime wrote:Marca and AS both 'revealing' Mourinho's XI for the final of the Copa del Rey:


-------------------Casillas

Arbeloa-----S. Ramos-----Carvalho-----Marcelo

--------Khedira-----Pepe------Alonso

Ozil--------------Ronaldo------------Di Maria

Kroos wrote:yeah özil is nike player

and NIKE only has this superfly shit hahaha

no one can competete against the german powerhouse adidas

Messiah wrote:Di Stefano

"The football Barcelona played at the Bernabeu was simply brilliant. Their superiority was clear,"

"Madrid played against a Barcelona side who dominated throughout the whole game. It's clear Barca are superior to Madrid who are a team with no personality.

"Their approach was clearly wrong."

Super Laudrup wrote:

Messiah wrote:Di Stefano

"The football Barcelona played at the Bernabeu was simply brilliant. Their superiority was clear,"

"Madrid played against a Barcelona side who dominated throughout the whole game. It's clear Barca are superior to Madrid who are a team with no personality.

"Their approach was clearly wrong."

According to Di Stefano:
Defensive football=no personality


Catenaccio

Jaime wrote:

Super Laudrup wrote:

Messiah wrote:Di Stefano

"The football Barcelona played at the Bernabeu was simply brilliant. Their superiority was clear,"

"Madrid played against a Barcelona side who dominated throughout the whole game. It's clear Barca are superior to Madrid who are a team with no personality.

"Their approach was clearly wrong."

According to Di Stefano:
Defensive football=no personality


Catenaccio

You are a confusing case Super! You like players like Cassano and Adriano and Banega who do zero defending but you are advocating catenaccio????

Tennis star Rafael Nadal defends Real Madrid's approach to first Clasico
Tennis superstar Rafael Nadal has defended Real Madrid coach Jose Mourinho in the wake of the tactician's so called anti-football approach to games against Barcelona.

Real Madrid may have escaped Saturday's Clasico with a 1-1 draw against Barcelona, but many football analysts around the globe have hit out at the Whites' performance and their approach to the game.

Football legends such as Madrid's own Alfredo Di Stefano and Barca's Johan Cruyff have described Mourinho's style as anti-football - the polar opposite of Pep Guardiola's beautiful brand of tiki-taka.

Tennis star Rafael Nadal, an unabashed Real Madrid supporter, voiced his belief that the under-fire Portuguese coach did not deserve such criticism.

"Football is not all [about] playing nice," the tennis World No. 1 said, according to Marca.

"After a 5-0 [loss to Barcelona earlier in the season] Mourinho had to make a change, it is as though I lost 6-0, 6-0 against an opponent," Nadal added.

Although Nadal admitted he appreciated the attacking footballing philosophy employed by Guardiola, he felt it was unfair to compare the two teams.

"Madrid has undergone many changes in recent years and it has been difficult to develop a playing system," he reasoned.

Nadal's footballing insights did not go so far as to predict the outcome of Wednesday's Copa del Rey final.

"Madrid can win the Cup and the Champions League, and Barca, who are without a doubt the favourite, can win it all. [Real Madrid and Barcelona] are the two best teams in the world..."

Criticisms of Mourinho’s tactics stemmed from the fact that he deployed three defensive midfielders in Xabi Alonso, Pepe and Sami Khedira to stifle the likes of Lionel Messi and Andres Iniesta.

fcb wrote:Apparently Madrid have already made arrangements to fly directly to Cibeles (traditional venue of celebration) on the same night as the Copa, to celebrate if they win.


More 'mou'tivation for Barça

Thanks Perez, you total fool

Super Raul wrote:
Still Di Stefano's point is simply that only attacking football is worthy which is stupid and sounds like something a child would say. He seems to be to only think that playing one style is correct and that the style can't be flexible even if it is for one game which is really the case with this recent game.

Catenaccio

blutgraetsche wrote:

Super Raul wrote:
Still Di Stefano's point is simply that only attacking football is worthy which is stupid and sounds like something a child would say. He seems to be to only think that playing one style is correct and that the style can't be flexible even if it is for one game which is really the case with this recent game.

Catenaccio

There is a difference between purely destructive anti-football and quick counter-attacking football, football that may focus on a strong defensive base, but with the actual intention to score goals, to win and not just neutralise your opponent.

Even Mourinho knows how that can be done, his Inter side last year showed how it can be done (first leg at home).

blutgraetsche wrote:
Di Stefano is wise and right, this is Real Madrid at home, the biggest club on the planet playing at home like Almeria away, in front of 80,000 fans in the stadium and half a billion world wide. That's inexcusable IMHO, and I'm shocked how desperate some Madrid fans have become for success over their arch rivals, not even caring how it's done as long as they win. The last time Madrid beat (thrashed) Barcelona was under Schuster, you know, that guy who supposedly was too naive and inept. Amazingly, that naive dude had at least the balls to go at Barca on their own turf and actually beat them.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Catenaccio as has been properly implemented places a strong emphasis on attack, which comes from the wingbacks in Herrera's system to use an example. He was pretty emphatic about the role of his wide players.

Euro2000-Netherlands vs Italy was not Catenaccio because Zambrotta was beaten every time by Zenden, eventually leading to a red card. That was the padlock without the attack, and having ten men against an awesome Netherlands side necessitated that approach.

I read somewhere that Real completed less than a third of the passes Barcelona managed. I think Jose was more concerned about getting his team's psychological strength back. And in that regard I think he did superbly. Real equalized with ten men against a Barcelona side that are considered sacrosanct. That will do wonders for their mental health ahead of the knockout games that await.

Super Raul wrote:

Tennis star Rafael Nadal defends Real Madrid's approach to first Clasico
Tennis superstar Rafael Nadal has defended Real Madrid coach Jose Mourinho in the wake of the tactician's so called anti-football approach to games against Barcelona.

Real Madrid may have escaped Saturday's Clasico with a 1-1 draw against Barcelona, but many football analysts around the globe have hit out at the Whites' performance and their approach to the game.

Football legends such as Madrid's own Alfredo Di Stefano and Barca's Johan Cruyff have described Mourinho's style as anti-football - the polar opposite of Pep Guardiola's beautiful brand of tiki-taka.

Tennis star Rafael Nadal, an unabashed Real Madrid supporter, voiced his belief that the under-fire Portuguese coach did not deserve such criticism.

"Football is not all [about] playing nice," the tennis World No. 1 said, according to Marca.

"After a 5-0 [loss to Barcelona earlier in the season] Mourinho had to make a change, it is as though I lost 6-0, 6-0 against an opponent," Nadal added.

Although Nadal admitted he appreciated the attacking footballing philosophy employed by Guardiola, he felt it was unfair to compare the two teams.

"Madrid has undergone many changes in recent years and it has been difficult to develop a playing system," he reasoned.

Nadal's footballing insights did not go so far as to predict the outcome of Wednesday's Copa del Rey final.

"Madrid can win the Cup and the Champions League, and Barca, who are without a doubt the favourite, can win it all. [Real Madrid and Barcelona] are the two best teams in the world..."

Criticisms of Mourinho’s tactics stemmed from the fact that he deployed three defensive midfielders in Xabi Alonso, Pepe and Sami Khedira to stifle the likes of Lionel Messi and Andres Iniesta.

Smart kid this one. He gets it

fcb wrote:

Super Raul wrote:

Tennis star Rafael Nadal defends Real Madrid's approach to first Clasico
Tennis superstar Rafael Nadal has defended Real Madrid coach Jose Mourinho in the wake of the tactician's so called anti-football approach to games against Barcelona.

Real Madrid may have escaped Saturday's Clasico with a 1-1 draw against Barcelona, but many football analysts around the globe have hit out at the Whites' performance and their approach to the game.

Football legends such as Madrid's own Alfredo Di Stefano and Barca's Johan Cruyff have described Mourinho's style as anti-football - the polar opposite of Pep Guardiola's beautiful brand of tiki-taka.

Tennis star Rafael Nadal, an unabashed Real Madrid supporter, voiced his belief that the under-fire Portuguese coach did not deserve such criticism.

"Football is not all [about] playing nice," the tennis World No. 1 said, according to Marca.

"After a 5-0 [loss to Barcelona earlier in the season] Mourinho had to make a change, it is as though I lost 6-0, 6-0 against an opponent," Nadal added.

Although Nadal admitted he appreciated the attacking footballing philosophy employed by Guardiola, he felt it was unfair to compare the two teams.

"Madrid has undergone many changes in recent years and it has been difficult to develop a playing system," he reasoned.

Nadal's footballing insights did not go so far as to predict the outcome of Wednesday's Copa del Rey final.

"Madrid can win the Cup and the Champions League, and Barca, who are without a doubt the favourite, can win it all. [Real Madrid and Barcelona] are the two best teams in the world..."

Criticisms of Mourinho’s tactics stemmed from the fact that he deployed three defensive midfielders in Xabi Alonso, Pepe and Sami Khedira to stifle the likes of Lionel Messi and Andres Iniesta.

Smart kid this one. He gets it

Erm, he's a Madrid fan, who's just repeating the same old Marca and Mourinho propaganda.

Super Raul wrote:
Anti-football simply refers to playing dirty and while it is sometimes related to ultra defensive football it doesn't go hand in hand. Playing for a draw or playing to simply not concede and hoping for a set piece or some mistake by the opposition is not anti-football at all.

He isn't wise simply because he is old. I only care about winning but it is not because I'm desperate to win but rather a football philosophical change on my part. I still(foolishly in retrospect) advocated very offensive football in the dark spell between 2004-2007. Just like Torrente wrote earlier with regards to Ronaldo, my views on football is hardly in vogue for Real Madrid fans.

Shuster "supposeduly naive"
Shuster was incredibly naive and isn't a surprise he did nothing in Cl and got exposed in cl with his strange tactics of playing without a right side and simply draining Ramos of power. His game away to Barca was actually very smart and a good variation of pressing and staying back. However he took over a team with a lot of confidence and passion that had won a title and by the time he left they had none of those things. And I could care less about balls unless you are talking about commitment.