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    Post by Isco Benny Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:13 pm

    Puro wrote:
    Hlebagone wrote:I imagine because Blatter has a lot of dirt on lots of the presidents of various FAs. Imagine the German FA and the FA are less in the thralls of Blatter, but i'm sure lots of the Presidents of developing countries FAs would be taken down, if Blatter was.

    They are all corrupt, perhaps there's a very small minority without much clout that isn't. Grondona even brought up the English calling them "pirates" and the events of 1966, he's speaking the TRUTH! This corruption goes way back. They will never vote for England because of what Stanley Rous did in 1966 to every South American.

    Even if this were the case, we all know South America got it's "revenge" soon after:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/august/20/newsid_4537000/4537235.stm

    Argentina '78 was also, of course, whiter than white:

    http://www.wldcup.com/worldcup/2002/news/2001Jan/20010109_6428_world_soccer.html

    By the way, a great blog on Havelange, the man whom Puro is paraphrasing at every opportunity about 1966:

    http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/championsleague/archive/2008/07/04/how-to-fix-a-world-cup.aspx







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    Post by Murray Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:38 pm

    Tim Vickery>INSIDE SOCCER

    FIFA's controversial roots date back to England five decades ago


    Brazilian journalists who flew to London for the Champions League
    final were struck by the importance given in the English press to the
    recent scandals surrounding FIFA. The story is not playing anything like
    as big back home.

    European cynics might argue that this
    has something to do with a certain South American tolerance of
    corruption. South American cynics, meanwhile, put the whole frenzy down
    to an infantile English reaction at not being awarded the 2018 World
    Cup.

    But the fault line goes deeper. A few months ago in
    Rio I saw Uruguay coach Oscar Washington Tabarez give a lecture to
    Brazilian coaches. The theme was on his team's recent rise and their
    progress to the semifinals of last year's World Cup. Tabarez, though, in
    addition to being a man of soccer is an academic, a teacher by trade
    (nicknamed "El Maestro" for this very reason), and he could not resist
    some historical context.

    He stopped off briefly at the
    1966 World Cup, held in England while FIFA was presided by an
    Englishman, Stanley Rous. That tournament, he said, had been a
    conspiracy against the South American teams.

    The great
    Pele was brutally kicked out of the tournament by European teams while
    European referees did nothing. Strikingly, all but seven of the 32
    matches had European referees, and the Portugal-North Korea quarterfinal
    was the only knockout game with an official from outside the continent.
    Famously, the Germany-Uruguay quarterfinal had an English referee,
    while the England-Argentina match had a German -- both were
    controversial, and South American involvement in the competition ended
    before the semifinals.

    Tabarez is certainly no demagogue,
    no flaming-eyed nationalist. But he believes that the tournament was set
    up to exclude the South Americans.

    He may well have
    extended his complaint, and noted that the competition was a conspiracy
    against the world outside Europe. There was just one place reserved for
    Asia and Africa combined. The bulk of the African nations pulled out in
    protest, their complaints given extra fuel by the support Rous offered
    to apartheid South Africa. The wind of change was blowing in Africa, but
    it could not dislodge the cobwebs in the mind of Rous, who was
    floundering badly in post-colonial politics he seemed unable to
    understand.

    At the end of World War II, more than half of
    FIFA's membership came from Europe. By 1974 the old continent accounted
    for less than a third. FIFA had not changed with the times -- until in
    that year Brazil's Joao Havelange unseated Rous and kick-started the
    globalization of the game.

    The World Cup was increased,
    first to 24 and then to 32 nations, with more slots for the developing
    world. Youth tournaments were set up -- new World Cups at Under-20 and
    Under-17 levels -- that could be staged in the developing world. This
    could be bankrolled by massive global sponsors, keen to reach soccer's
    worldwide audience, and also by the commercialization of TV rights. Some,
    present writer included, might be concerned at the excesses of this
    process of commercialization. But it is hardly something that English
    soccer, with all its financial development, can criticize with a
    straight face. Moreover, whatever we might think of some of the people
    involved in the process, it is undeniable that the project of taking the
    game to the world has been a success. Forty years ago it was
    inconceivable that the likes of South Korea or Ecuador could shine in a
    World Cup -- now both countries each have a very fine player wearing the
    shirt of Manchester United.

    The extraordinary global
    popularity of soccer means that the game now generates huge sums -- and
    the poisoned fruit of the money tree is the corruption that seems to
    take place.

    The English press are now going after these
    stories, which can only be a good thing. Journalism is at its most
    useful when it is making those in power uncomfortable.

    I
    find it hard to agree, though, with the context in which the revelations
    are usually placed. The scenario is almost Biblical -- everything was
    fine in the garden of football until our Stanley lost out to Havelange,
    who then passed the baton to Blatter.

    The English attack
    dogs don't give the Rous era the same treatment. In "Foul," his book of
    fine investigative journalism on FIFA, Andrew Jennings tries to brush
    off the pro-apartheid stance of Rous as steering "the sporting ship well
    clear of murky political waters." His successors are cut no such slack.

    Jennings castigates Havelange for his close relations
    with the Argentine military junta before and during the 1978 World Cup.
    But there is no mention of an incident five years earlier that must
    stand as one of the most despicable in FIFA's history. In November 1973,
    Rous ordered that the World Cup playoff between Chile and the Soviet
    Union could go ahead in Santiago's Nacional stadium. The Pinochet coup
    had taken place two months before, after which the stadium was used as a
    concentration camp.

    Hundreds were killed there, thousands
    were tortured. In order to stage the game against the Soviets, the
    remaining prisoners were transferred or released and the bloodstains
    hurriedly cleaned up. Quite rightly, the Soviets refused to play there.
    Rous threw them out of the World Cup.

    The game could
    easily have been staged in Uruguay. By taking such a monstrous decision,
    Rous forfeited any right to the moral high ground. Financial corruption
    is not the only crime.

    There was no pre-Havelange and
    Blatter garden of Eden -- just a different FIFA with different defects.
    With its lack of historical context it is unclear whether the current
    hysteria in the English press is motivated by a genuine desire to carry
    the game forward on a global basis -- or by nostalgia for when English
    rule was unchallenged.

    The lack of accountability of the
    current FIFA is surely unsustainable, the quasi-feudal personal fiefdoms
    that develop inside the organization are disturbing and the fat-cat
    lifestyle of some of those at the top makes the stomach turn. But for
    all its flaws and problems, it is not hard to understand why much of the
    developing world prefers the post-Havelange FIFA to what came before.

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/tim_vickery/05/31/tabarez.fifa/index.html#ixzz1O3SlUman


    That could almost have been written by Puro
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:32 pm

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    Democracy! cheers

    In fairness to Blatter, it's pretty impressive to come through all the slurs and corruption allegations, and actually end up in a stronger position than you started. Some of his major rivals have been eliminated, any enquiries will be directed against rivals and scapegoats, and he has the shitty little corrupt Committee members wrapped around his figure as tightly as ever. The few associations openly against him are too weak and too incompetent to do a thing. Reading the comments on the Guardian's dedicated page did keep me amused throughout the day though - so every cloud has a silver lining.
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    Post by Puro Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:43 pm

    Murray wrote:
    Tim Vickery>INSIDE SOCCER

    FIFA's controversial roots date back to England five decades ago


    Brazilian journalists who flew to London for the Champions League
    final were struck by the importance given in the English press to the
    recent scandals surrounding FIFA. The story is not playing anything like
    as big back home.

    European cynics might argue that this
    has something to do with a certain South American tolerance of
    corruption. South American cynics, meanwhile, put the whole frenzy down
    to an infantile English reaction at not being awarded the 2018 World
    Cup.

    But the fault line goes deeper. A few months ago in
    Rio I saw Uruguay coach Oscar Washington Tabarez give a lecture to
    Brazilian coaches. The theme was on his team's recent rise and their
    progress to the semifinals of last year's World Cup. Tabarez, though, in
    addition to being a man of soccer is an academic, a teacher by trade
    (nicknamed "El Maestro" for this very reason), and he could not resist
    some historical context.

    He stopped off briefly at the
    1966 World Cup, held in England while FIFA was presided by an
    Englishman, Stanley Rous. That tournament, he said, had been a
    conspiracy against the South American teams.

    The great
    Pele was brutally kicked out of the tournament by European teams while
    European referees did nothing. Strikingly, all but seven of the 32
    matches had European referees, and the Portugal-North Korea quarterfinal
    was the only knockout game with an official from outside the continent.
    Famously, the Germany-Uruguay quarterfinal had an English referee,
    while the England-Argentina match had a German -- both were
    controversial, and South American involvement in the competition ended
    before the semifinals.

    Tabarez is certainly no demagogue,
    no flaming-eyed nationalist. But he believes that the tournament was set
    up to exclude the South Americans.

    He may well have
    extended his complaint, and noted that the competition was a conspiracy
    against the world outside Europe. There was just one place reserved for
    Asia and Africa combined. The bulk of the African nations pulled out in
    protest, their complaints given extra fuel by the support Rous offered
    to apartheid South Africa. The wind of change was blowing in Africa, but
    it could not dislodge the cobwebs in the mind of Rous, who was
    floundering badly in post-colonial politics he seemed unable to
    understand.

    At the end of World War II, more than half of
    FIFA's membership came from Europe. By 1974 the old continent accounted
    for less than a third. FIFA had not changed with the times -- until in
    that year Brazil's Joao Havelange unseated Rous and kick-started the
    globalization of the game.

    The World Cup was increased,
    first to 24 and then to 32 nations, with more slots for the developing
    world. Youth tournaments were set up -- new World Cups at Under-20 and
    Under-17 levels -- that could be staged in the developing world. This
    could be bankrolled by massive global sponsors, keen to reach soccer's
    worldwide audience, and also by the commercialization of TV rights. Some,
    present writer included, might be concerned at the excesses of this
    process of commercialization. But it is hardly something that English
    soccer, with all its financial development, can criticize with a
    straight face. Moreover, whatever we might think of some of the people
    involved in the process, it is undeniable that the project of taking the
    game to the world has been a success. Forty years ago it was
    inconceivable that the likes of South Korea or Ecuador could shine in a
    World Cup -- now both countries each have a very fine player wearing the
    shirt of Manchester United.

    The extraordinary global
    popularity of soccer means that the game now generates huge sums -- and
    the poisoned fruit of the money tree is the corruption that seems to
    take place.

    The English press are now going after these
    stories, which can only be a good thing. Journalism is at its most
    useful when it is making those in power uncomfortable.

    I
    find it hard to agree, though, with the context in which the revelations
    are usually placed. The scenario is almost Biblical -- everything was
    fine in the garden of football until our Stanley lost out to Havelange,
    who then passed the baton to Blatter.

    The English attack
    dogs don't give the Rous era the same treatment. In "Foul," his book of
    fine investigative journalism on FIFA, Andrew Jennings tries to brush
    off the pro-apartheid stance of Rous as steering "the sporting ship well
    clear of murky political waters." His successors are cut no such slack.

    Jennings castigates Havelange for his close relations
    with the Argentine military junta before and during the 1978 World Cup.
    But there is no mention of an incident five years earlier that must
    stand as one of the most despicable in FIFA's history. In November 1973,
    Rous ordered that the World Cup playoff between Chile and the Soviet
    Union could go ahead in Santiago's Nacional stadium. The Pinochet coup
    had taken place two months before, after which the stadium was used as a
    concentration camp.

    Hundreds were killed there, thousands
    were tortured. In order to stage the game against the Soviets, the
    remaining prisoners were transferred or released and the bloodstains
    hurriedly cleaned up. Quite rightly, the Soviets refused to play there.
    Rous threw them out of the World Cup.

    The game could
    easily have been staged in Uruguay. By taking such a monstrous decision,
    Rous forfeited any right to the moral high ground. Financial corruption
    is not the only crime.

    There was no pre-Havelange and
    Blatter garden of Eden -- just a different FIFA with different defects.
    With its lack of historical context it is unclear whether the current
    hysteria in the English press is motivated by a genuine desire to carry
    the game forward on a global basis -- or by nostalgia for when English
    rule was unchallenged.

    The lack of accountability of the
    current FIFA is surely unsustainable, the quasi-feudal personal fiefdoms
    that develop inside the organization are disturbing and the fat-cat
    lifestyle of some of those at the top makes the stomach turn. But for
    all its flaws and problems, it is not hard to understand why much of the
    developing world prefers the post-Havelange FIFA to what came before.

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/tim_vickery/05/31/tabarez.fifa/index.html#ixzz1O3SlUman

    That could almost have been written by Puro

    One good 'positive' thing about this Blatter's FIFA fiasco is that it has helped people remember the catastrophe, the utmost chicanery that occurred in 1966..."the robbery of the century".

    As corrupt as Blatter, Léoz, Grondona, Bin Hammam, Warner...are, we must never return to the days of racist Stanley Rous. The way he shamelessly stole the world cup in 1966 must never happen AGAIN for the good of the game. Rous makes the others look like men of honor. Rot in hell Stanley Rous YOU c**t PIRATE!
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    Post by Aristoskank Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:46 am

    You've gotta be shitting me...


    Former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger admits he is considering an offer from FIFA president Sepp Blatter to take up a role in his new anti-corruption committee
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    Post by debaser Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:04 am

    Yeah they're appointing a dreamteam of Kissinger, Ratko Mladic and Hosni Mubarak. Harmony will reign Ale
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    Post by debaser Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:44 am

    Jack Warner has for legal reasons backed down from his threat to reveal the content of emails with the ruling body's president Sepp Blatter.

    The suspended Fifa vice-president had promised a "football tsunami" would follow his sanction by Fifa's Ethics committee last week but on Sunday he confirmed he would not be carrying out the threat.

    In a brief speech in his constituency on Sunday, Warner, also Ministers of Works and Transport for Trinidad and Tobago, reiterated his innocence but said he would not be making public the emails after discussions with his lawyers.

    "I had plans to speak to you today a bit more on this matter but the best legal advice I received has suggested that I do not do so at this point in time and that advice I am going to respect," explained Warner.

    Warner has been suspended pending a full investigation by Fifa into allegations that bribery took place at a meeting he organised with Mohammed Bin Hammam.

    The meeting in Trinidad involving Bin Hammam, the head of the Asian Football Confederation, was related to the Qatari's presidential election campaign against Blatter.

    "I haven't thieved anything, I haven't given anybody anything and I don't know what the hullaballoo is all about," Warner said.

    Responding to calls by one of the major partners in the coalition government and by the opposition for him to step down pending Fifa's investigations into the allegations, Warner said his Fifa position never interfered with his government work.

    But he told supporters, "If it comes to a choice between Fifa and you, the choice is you."

    Bin Hammam has also been suspended from all football activities and, like Warner, has denied any wrongdoing.

    Blatter was re-elected as Fifa president last week at a congress overshadowed by bribery and corruption allegations.

    ---

    Expect he'll be welcomed back into the FIFA family before long..
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    Post by Aristoskank Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:29 am

    debaser wrote:Yeah they're appointing a dreamteam of Kissinger, Ratko Mladic and Hosni Mubarak. Harmony will reign Ale

    Until someone suggests that in the spirit of globalism they need Mugabe or Afterdinnerjihad to sign up too...
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    Post by Murray Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:42 pm

    Deferring the Apocalypse wrote:You've gotta be shitting me...


    Former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger admits he is considering an offer from FIFA president Sepp Blatter to take up a role in his new anti-corruption committee

    The other 2 members of this committee are Johan Cruyff and ................ wait for it..............................................Placido Domingo lol! lol! lol!
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    Post by COTR Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:49 pm

    Indeed


    Under-fire Fifa president Sepp Blatter has confirmed that Spanish opera singer Placido Domingo is his somewhat bizarre choice to advise football's world governing body on its problems.

    Domingo will join 88-year-old former US secretary of state Henry Kissinger and ex-Holland international Johann Cruyff as advisers.

    The announcement comes as the latest confusing move from Fifa in a fortnight which has seen the body surrounded in allegations of corruption prior to Blatter's re-election as president for a fourth term.

    Blatter said: "These gentlemen are more or less advisers, they are not the experts, but advisers.

    "They should be a kind of 'council of wisdom' which my executive committee would not like because they think they are the council of wisdom!

    Inquiry

    "They should be a kind of 'council of wisdom' which my executive committee would not like because they think they are the council of wisdom!"
    Sepp Blatter on his new advisors
    Quotes of the week
    "I have also contacted the Spanish singer... Placido Domingo - he is happy, he is proud that he is part, and Kissinger also. People say he is an old man, but he is a wise man."

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_6968733,00.html
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    Post by Hlebagone Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:54 pm

    I think this is the classic through a lot of shit every where plan. Not hoping that any of it actually sticks, rather that everyone will be so confused with all the shit flying around, they'll just give up.
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    Post by debaser Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:22 pm

    Placido Domingo lol!
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    Post by shazlx Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:36 pm

    Hlebagone wrote:I think this is the classic through a lot of shit every where plan. Not hoping that any of it actually sticks, rather that everyone will be so confused with all the shit flying around, they'll just give up.
    lol! Scariest thing is I thing it will work. clown

    The world we live in...
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:21 am

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    Democracy! cheers

    In fairness to Blatter, it's pretty impressive to come through all the slurs and corruption allegations, and actually end up in a stronger position than you started. Some of his major rivals have been eliminated, any enquiries will be directed against rivals and scapegoats, and he has the shitty little corrupt Committee members wrapped around his figure as tightly as ever. The few associations openly against him are too weak and too incompetent to do a thing. Reading the comments on the Guardian's dedicated page did keep me amused throughout the day though - so every cloud has a silver lining.

    You forget the most brilliant thing : in order to get rid of his major rival, he also sacrifices Qatar 2022....so that the bidding and bribing can start a new !

    He's getting paid twice now ! Shocked
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    Post by DD Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:46 am

    Murray wrote:
    Deferring the Apocalypse wrote:You've gotta be shitting me...


    Former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger admits he is considering an offer from FIFA president Sepp Blatter to take up a role in his new anti-corruption committee

    The other 2 members of this committee are Johan Cruyff and ................ wait for it..............................................Placido Domingo lol! lol! lol!
    Cruijff has been asked but has yet to take up on the offer.
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    Post by DD Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:39 am

    BBC wrote:Fifa questions Blazer after letter of complaint

    Concacaf general secretary Chuck Blazer has been questioned by Fifa's ethics committee after complaints were made against him by Caribbean associations.

    Blazer sparked the investigation that led to the suspension of fellow Fifa members Jack Warner and Mohamed Bin Hammam on bribery charges.

    The complaint is related to remarks Blazer is alleged to have made in a meeting in Zurich in May.

    "I am confident of a positive resolution," said Blazer.

    The official complaint was made in a letter to the committee signed by 11 heads of Caribbean federations.

    The complaint is related to Blazer's behaviour at a Concacaf meeting before last month's Fifa Congress and does not refer in any way to the bribery issues currently under investigation by world football's governing body.

    The letter said Blazer made "statements of contempt and slander that served to impugn the integrity, discriminate against and infringe upon the personal rights" of Concacaf members.

    The meeting came after Blazer gave a dossier to the ethics committee containing allegations of bribery relating to a meeting in Port of Spain, Trinidad, between Caribbean federations and Asian soccer chief Bin Hammam.

    A Caribbean football source told Reuters the meeting spilled over into a row over who should take over as acting president after Warner was suspended, during which Blazer told some Caribbean officials they faced investigation.

    The letter of complaint continues: "The statement of Mr Blazer flouts the principle of a person being innocent before being proven guilty."

    It says Blazer "violated the personal rights" of Captain Horace Burrell, the president of the Jamaican Football Federation - Blazer blocked him becoming active vice-president of Concacaf.

    It also alleges Blazer "discriminated against Capt Burrell and certain members of the Concacaf through his contemptuous and denigratory words since all the persons who were singled out were of a specific race".

    Bin Hammam and then Concacaf president Warner were subsequently suspended by the ethics committee pending a full investigation.

    Blazer claims that Warner and Bin Hammam paid Caribbean delegates $40,000 (£24,250) each to vote for Bin Hammam in his failed bid for the Fifa presidency.

    The Fifa investigation gets under way on Wednesday, with Caribbean representatives being interviewed by Fifa investigators in the Bahamas.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13774179.stm
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:40 am

    Chuck Blazer ate a baby.
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    Post by DD Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:19 am

    Read it this morning on Dutch television news. This is the same press report everyone is reporting right now. I assume The Guardian will release their report within hours.
    Yahoo News wrote:
    Joao Havelange faces IOC inquiry over bribery allegations
    By ANI | ANI – Fri, Jun 17, 2011

    London, Jun 17 (ANI): Fifa has suffered a fresh blow after the International Olympic Committee began an investigation into one of its highest officials over a BBC Panorama programme's allegations that he took bribes.

    Joao Havelange, the honorary president of football's world governing body and an IOC member, is the subject of the inquiry being conducted by the IOC's ethics watchdog, The Guardian reports.

    In its Fifa: Football's Shame programme the BBC claimed last month: "Mr Havelange got a US$1m bung in 1997 [�610,000 at the time]. Sepp Blatter knew about it. He did nothing."

    Havelange did not respond to the BBC's request for a response before the broadcast and it says he has not made contact since. (ANI)

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/joao-havelange-faces-ioc-inquiry-over-bribery-allegations-080027685.html

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    Post by debaser Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:44 pm

    Fifa vice-president Jack Warner has resigned, world football's governing body has confirmed.

    "As a consequence of Mr Warner's resignation, all ethics committee procedures against him have been closed and the presumption of innocence is maintained,"
    said a Fifa statement.

    Warner was suspended pending an investigation into bribery allegations.

    He and fellow Fifa member Mohamed Bin Hammam are alleged to have paid bribes of £600,000 to Caribbean associations.

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    Post by DD Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:29 pm

    Well that's that then. Rolling Eyes

    I guess this is the transparancy Blatter promised for his new term. I wonder how long Warner will keep his mouth shut. I guess if Bin Hammam resigns that would also absolve FIFA and its members of any and all fault as the investigation and procedures are closed and presumption of innocence is maintained.

    This is almost like an alternate reality. In real life things don't go this way. Any dictator would eventually face a revolt by his people.

    Can't wait to see what's next.
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    Post by DD Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:04 pm

    BBC wrote:Jack Warner to appear as witness in Fifa investigation

    Fifa has confirmed that Jack Warner will appear as a witness in the continuing ethics committee investigation into bribery claims.

    Warner, who had been suspended pending an investigation into bribery allegations, resigned as a Fifa vice-president on Monday.

    "Mr Warner will be investigated as a witness but not as an accused party," read a Fifa statement.

    Fifa added that Warner had offered his support to the ethics committee.

    Former Concacaf federation president Warner and Fifa member and former presidential candidate Mohamed Bin Hammam were suspended after executive committee member Chuck Blazer alleged that violations of Fifa's code of ethics occurred during a meeting organised by the two men in May.

    Warner and Bin Hammam were accused of giving or offering bribes of £600,000 to Caribbean associations.

    They both denied any wrongdoing but were suspended on 29 May pending further investigation by the ethics committee.

    After Warner quit, Fifa released a statement which stated that "as a consequence of Mr Warner's resignation, all ethics committee procedures against him have been closed and the presumption of innocence is maintained".

    Fifa says Warner will be involved as a witness in the continuing investigation into the allegations against Bin Hammam and the Caribbean associations.

    In his resignation statement on Monday, Warner said: "I am convinced, and I am advised by counsel, that since my actions did not extend beyond facilitating the meeting that gave Mr Bin Hammam an opportunity to pursue his aborted bid for the Fifa presidency, I would be fully exonerated by any objective arbiter."

    Warner claimed he had been "hung out to dry" and that "gifts have been around throughout the history of Fifa".

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13856420.stm
    So he's a witness against Bin Hammam for the same things he's been accused of (but maintaining the presumption of innocence). Yet he wasn't the whistleblower. Hmmm... Ale
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    Post by DD Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:39 pm

    BBC wrote:Warner would 'die' before meeting Fifa bribery probe chief

    Jack Warner says he would "die first" before helping former FBI Director Louis Freeh investigate claims of bribery within Fifa.

    Fifa's ethics committee appointed Freeh's agency to look into claims against Warner and Mohamed Bin Hammam.

    Warner, who resigned as Fifa vice-president, said he would assist Fifa, but not Freeh because of his US links.

    "I will die first. Not me. If Fifa wants me to cooperate I will do that but not with Freeh," said Warner.

    "I'm not going to back a complaint made by an American and investigated by Americans and an attempt to put it on American soil because the complaint is from Miami.

    "I don't back this farce," he told Bloomberg.

    The 68-year-old's stance is such because both he and former Fifa presidential candidate Bin Hammam were suspended after executive committee member Chuck Blazer, an American, alleged that violations of Fifa's code of ethics occurred during a meeting organised by the two men in May.

    Warner's remarks are in contrast to comments made by Fifa earlier on Tuesday, in which they claimed that former Concacaf federation president would appear as a witness in the continuing ethics committee investigation into bribery.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13864296.stm
    Hang in there Jack.
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    Post by DD Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:00 pm

    BBC wrote:Fifa accuses Bin Hammam of attempting to bribe

    A Fifa report seen by the Press Association says there is 'overwhelming evidence' that Mohamed bin Hammam used bribery in his presidential campaign.

    The ethics committee also stated that former Fifa vice-president Jack Warner was "an accessory to corruption".

    Warner resigned from his role on Monday and quit all football activities.

    As a result, football's governing body dropped all investigations into Warner, adding that "the presumption of innocence is maintained".

    However, the full report of the ethics committee headed by Namibian judge Petrus Damaseb said there was "comprehensive, convincing and overwhelming" proof that bribes had been paid to officials to support Bin Hammam's campaign for the Fifa presidency, and that Warner had facilitated this.

    Both 68-year-old Warner, from Trinidad and Tobago, and Qatar's Bin Hammam, 62, were provisionally suspended on 29 May.

    Bin Hammam withdrew as a candidate in the Fifa presidential race against Sepp Blatter on the morning of his ethics committee hearing on 29 May. Both Bin Hammam and Warner deny the allegations.

    The 17-page Fifa report was faxed to Warner on 14 June. Three days later, he informed Fifa he was quitting.

    The report obtained by the Press Association concludes that there was "compelling" evidence that Bin Hammam and Warner arranged a special meeting of the 25 members of the Caribbean Football Union [CFU] on 10 and 11 May in Trinidad and that, with their knowledge, cash gifts were handed over.

    Statements from witnesses, contained in the report, said they were handed brown envelopes each containing 40,000 US dollars. One of the witnesses, Fred Lunn from the Bahamas, photographed the cash before returning it.

    The document also stated that four witnesses claimed that Warner told the CFU delegates on 11 May that the "money for the 'gifts' allegedly distributed the day before had been apparently provided by Mr Bin Hammam".

    Warner's evidence to the 29 May hearing is described as "mere self-serving declarations" and that he "failed to provide the Fifa ethics committee with a plausible explanation".

    Bin Hammam said in a statement: "There is nothing I can say more than I deny the allegations and insist that I have not done anything wrong during the special Congress at Trinidad."

    Damian Collins, the Tory MP who is campaigning for a reform of Fifa, believes the case against Warner should be re-opened.

    "This makes Fifa's claim that Warner can be presumed innocent absolutely incredible," he said. "I believe Jack Warner should be made to answer these charges - it's not enough just for him to resign.

    "This shows it was a big error of judgement by Sepp Blatter to call off the inquiry and cover this up.

    "Fifa should also confirm Mohamed Bin Hammam should not similarly be allowed to resign in return for having the investigation dropped."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13878161.stm
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    Post by EMP Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:16 pm

    COTR wrote:This is heating up nicely into a real shitstorm

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13592684.stm

    Surely it isn't beyond question that another vote takes place if these sorts of allegations are backed by the evidence that supposedly exists. Let's face it, how the hell else were Qatar ever going to get a World Cup.

    Valcke has been subject to corruption allegations previously. Panorama highlighted this ages ago. They have exposed high level corruption in FIFA into regime of previous President Joao Havelange before. They had smoking gun and broadcast it on others including CAF President Issa Hayatou. It was ignored.

    Rather annoying that English care now, but not before. Had they acted against Jack 'The Hat' Warner after the proven corruption over World Cup tickets in Germany and not courted the pos with a match in Trinidad to win CONCACAF votes, they'd be more credible. There is not and cannot be any football reason whatsoever for Engaland to have gone half way round world to play that mighty football nation. What was that if not trying to buy votes by different means?
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    Post by EMP Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:26 pm

    DD wrote:
    BBC wrote:Warner would 'die' before meeting Fifa bribery probe chief

    Jack Warner says he would "die first" before helping former FBI Director Louis Freeh investigate claims of bribery within Fifa.

    Fifa's ethics committee appointed Freeh's agency to look into claims against Warner and Mohamed Bin Hammam.

    Warner, who resigned as Fifa vice-president, said he would assist Fifa, but not Freeh because of his US links.

    "I will die first. Not me. If Fifa wants me to cooperate I will do that but not with Freeh," said Warner.

    "I'm not going to back a complaint made by an American and investigated by Americans and an attempt to put it on American soil because the complaint is from Miami.

    "I don't back this farce," he told Bloomberg.

    The 68-year-old's stance is such because both he and former Fifa presidential candidate Bin Hammam were suspended after executive committee member Chuck Blazer, an American, alleged that violations of Fifa's code of ethics occurred during a meeting organised by the two men in May.

    Warner's remarks are in contrast to comments made by Fifa earlier on Tuesday, in which they claimed that former Concacaf federation president would appear as a witness in the continuing ethics committee investigation into bribery.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13864296.stm
    Hang in there Jack.

    So basically once evidence emerges proving his guilt he resigns and avoids an investigation, retaining the presumtion of innocence.

    In essence the bank robber tells the police 'I resign from robbing banks.' The police stop investigating him and the courts say fair enough, you remain presumed innocent. I suspect any robber trying this defence will go straight to jail without passing go or collecting £200.
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    Post by DD Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:18 am

    You can't make this up... Doh
    The Guardian wrote:Fifa's president Sepp Blatter meets Zimbabwe dictator Robert Mugabe
    Tuesday 5 July 2011 15.01 BST Article history

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    Sepp Blatter's decision to meet the Zimbabwe dictator Robert Mugabe has raised eyebrows. Photograph: Tsvangirayi Mukwazhi/AP

    Fifa's Sepp Blatter met the Zimbabwe president, Robert Mugabe, for talks on Monday after the head of world football arrived for a two-day visit to a country where the game is mired in a match-fixing controversy.

    Blatter, who arrived in Harare on a private jet, inspected training facilities that urgently need funding amid Zimbabwe's troubled economy, and pledged $1m (£620,575) over four years for football schemes in the country. Another $500,000 (£310,300) will be provided to support training under Fifa's worldwide Goal project.

    "Football is more than kicking a ball," Blatter said at a news conference. "I do not come to Africa to impose European football, I respect particularities and culture. Africa has more talent than Brazil but Africa's talent is not yet developed."

    Blatter had been scheduled to accompany Mugabe to a women's international match against Malawi, but officials said later that Mugabe did not attend because of a scheduling conflict.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/05/sepp-blatter-robert-mugabe-fifa
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    The look of mild panic of Mugabe's face suggests he's worried about the PR he'll get from being photographed with the world's most notorious dictator.
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    Post by Aristoskank Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:40 pm

    Louis Freeh couldn't investigate his way out of a paper bag. Remember, this is the guy who was in charge of the FBI in the 8 years preceding the worst terrorist attack the world has ever seen. Frankly, that's worse than the Kissinger offer. At least Kissinger is a ruthlessly intelligent and competent man, even if he does eat baby fingers for breakfast.
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    Post by DD Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:19 pm

    Soccernet wrote:Blatter launches attack on England
    August 29, 2011

    FIFA president Sepp Blatter has hit out at England, claiming the nation is out to 'destroy' world football's governing body in an act of revenge.

    Blatter maintained that England were seeking to get one back on FIFA for losing the presidency race back in 1974 and his comments followed a wide-ranging attack on the country from long-serving Brazilian football president Ricardo Teixeira.

    When asked about the corruption allegations currently engulfing his organisation in an interview with Brazilian newspaper Estado do Sao Paulo, Blatter responded: "I would like to say the following: We have bad losers in FIFA. Also we have to say that some of our actors and two of our key players have not behaved well. But we have started to take action. Now I ask that the press allows us the necessary time to apply the changes that will be proposed. On October 21 I will announce those proposals."

    It was then put to him that these proposals would not solve anything and Blatter took it upon himself to point the finger of blame firmly at the English.

    He said: "This animosity comes from England. Interesting is the timing of the accusations. It was just around the time when they failed to win host rights to the 2018 World Cup. Three weeks before the presidential election these accusations emerged.

    "Let me tell you the truth: All this has been an act of revenge for [England's Sir Stanley Rous] having lost the FIFA presidency in 1974 to [Brazil's] Joao Havelange. Still, they cannot accept that they no longer control FIFA. Since they cannot regain the presidency, they decided they would try to destroy it."

    Allegations of corruption at FIFA actually featured in the English press well before voting for World Cup 2018 took began and were maintained despite FIFA's warnings that it would affect the bidding process.

    Blatter then went on to hint that there may be a change to the system by which a FIFA president is elected after confirming that he will stand down in 2015.

    "Europe will do everything it can to win the presidency,'' he added. ''I would say, to regain, because they do not consider me European. To prevent this war, we are going to create a formula for this election. We will have renewal, not revolution."

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/950674/fifa-boss-sepp-blatter-launches-attack-on-'bad-losers'-england?cc=5739

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