Premier League Discussion 17/18 September 2011

Seven mins to get a leveller. Chamakh has done something useful for the first time in a long while.

Emlyn Begley reports: "Everton have named midfielder Tim Cahill up front, with Louis Saha, who is returning to full fitness, left out of the squad entirely. The France international responds on Twitter: "I am not good enough. #Absolutelydestroyed". Deadline day signings Denis Stracqualursi and Royston Drenthe are again left on the bench. Wigan hand a first Premier League start for the club to on-loan Chelsea defender Patrick van Aanholt, while fellow summer signings Shaun Maloney and David Jones remain on the bench.

What a delivery from RVP!!2-5 for Arsenal now!!

Sheffield gunner wrote:Emlyn Begley reports: "Everton have named midfielder Tim Cahill up front, with Louis Saha, who is returning to full fitness, left out of the squad entirely. The France international responds on Twitter: "I am not good enough. #Absolutelydestroyed". Deadline day signings Denis Stracqualursi and Royston Drenthe are again left on the bench. Wigan hand a first Premier League start for the club to on-loan Chelsea defender Patrick van Aanholt, while fellow summer signings Shaun Maloney and David Jones remain on the bench.

Strange one..

Yakubu is usually brilliant and holding it in the corner..they want to get him the ball..

THE GERMAN HAS RUINED IT

TBH, Arsenal have been rubbish ever since Bergkamp retired. It has only got from bad to worse.

Also Arsenal needs to stop Germans....Merty should have scored.

Arsenal miss three great chances to equalise in injury time.

Great finish to the game

Blackburn 4-3 Arsenal FT

A new low for Wenger, but there will be plenty more to come this season under his management.

SACK WENGER NOW

FT: 4-3

Shambolic 2nd half.

Wenger was right .... a top four finish will feel like a trophy. Can't see it myself, I see us ending up in 6th-8th place.

What a game! Arsenal fell apart in the second half.

Cesc Soler wrote:Wenger was right .... a top four finish will feel like a trophy.

Wenger shouldnt be saying things like that considering his track record in winning trophys lately.

Top 10 finish we if we are lucky

Manchester Utd, Swansea, German team, Blackburn

Only one win, thanks to Vorm that was. GD: 6-13

Such a healthy club, with such a ridiculous board and coach.

Arsenal fans will rightly be disappointed, but spare a thought for the Swansea and Newcastle fans who for some reason didn't get their free lunch.

Cesc Soler wrote:Wenger was right .... a top four finish will feel like a trophy. Can't see it myself, I see us ending up in 6th-8th place.

It would have me believing in miracles if this team can get in the top four. I'd be amazed if they get within 10 points of a CL place.

Good news everyone: Bannan starts

I thought Arsenal would have got something today, they are in big trouble i just cant believe they've conceeded 4 today to Blackburn, i thought the result in Dortmund wouldve given them confidence. I think the worrying thing is that this bad form has been going on since the end of last season. I wonder what Arsenal's record is over their last 20 prem games or so??? (obviously including last years EPL games)

Is it bad for me to say that we actually played fairly well today. Overall a performance showing that the team is getting used to each other. Just ridiculous defending, otherwise a positive performance. As rare as a Chamakh goal is, how about two amazing crosses from Walcott in a single game . Good midfield performance with Arteta and Song doing well.

I think we will sort out the defense. Two very unlucky own goals, offside goal and a wicked finish. It must be Arsenal, it has to get better soon!!

No Graham for Swansea today, Lita makes his first start....their first goal is coming today !

No disrespect but losing to that BB team is an absolute disgrace, fucking shambles!!!!!

Koscienly had a mare, misplaced some passes early on, head dropped and from that point was a liability throughout.

So that's now 3 losses already in the league.....Unfuckingbelievable! It's going to be a long season

Sgoater1 wrote:
I thought Arsenal would have got something today, they are in big trouble i just cant believe they've conceeded 4 today to Blackburn, i thought the result in Dortmund wouldve given them confidence. I think the worrying thing is that this bad form has been going on since the end of last season. I wonder what Arsenal's record is over their last 20 prem games or so??? (obviously including last years EPL games)

League matches since the Carling Cup final:
DDDWDDLWLLDDLLWL

3 wins, 7 draws, 6 defeats

And that record is getting appreciably worse. Just one win and five defeats in the last 8 matches!

shazlx wrote:Is it bad for me to say that we actually played fairly well today. Overall a performance showing that the team is getting used to each other. Just ridiculous defending, otherwise a positive performance. As rare as a Chamakh goal is, how about two amazing crosses from Walcott in a single game . Good midfield performance with Arteta and Song doing well.

I think we will sort out the defense. Two very unlucky own goals, offside goal and a wicked finish. It must be Arsenal, it has to get better soon!!

How were the own goals unlucky? The 2nd one especially...great play from the Blackburn player meant he couldnt do anything to stop it, it was forced on him..thats nothing to do with luck.

Sgoater1 wrote:
I thought Arsenal would have got something today, they are in big trouble i just cant believe they've conceeded 4 today to Blackburn, i thought the result in Dortmund wouldve given them confidence. I think the worrying thing is that this bad form has been going on since the end of last season. I wonder what Arsenal's record is over their last 20 prem games or so??? (obviously including last years EPL games)

I think we have won 3 of our last 16 league games.

shazlx wrote:Is it bad for me to say that we actually played fairly well today. Overall a performance showing that the team is getting used to each other. Just ridiculous defending, otherwise a positive performance. As rare as a Chamakh goal is, how about two amazing crosses from Walcott in a single game . Good midfield performance with Arteta and Song doing well.

I think we will sort out the defense. Two very unlucky own goals, offside goal and a wicked finish. It must be Arsenal, it has to get better soon!!

With Wenger in charge?

The 'offside' was too close to call mate. If any doubt the advantage should always go to the attacker. Good refreeing IMO.

Exactly what I feared would happen. Song's og was probably unlucky as he knew nothing about it when the loose ball him hit him on the thigh, but we lost composure after that and Koscielny's og was shambolic. Of course we haven't turned a corner, far from it and we should expect something like this with kind of changes we had this summer.4th place would be immense, unless we significantly strenghen in January. Otherwise, agree with Shaz that we played well in parts. Song on form again - I suppose he was taken off for Chamakh on the basis we might as well look for goals. Arteta faded in 2H again. Sagna better be back soon - we just can't have Djourou in defence.

Sgoater1 wrote:
I thought Arsenal would have got something today, they are in big trouble i just cant believe they've conceeded 4 today to Blackburn, i thought the result in Dortmund wouldve given them confidence. I think the worrying thing is that this bad form has been going on since the end of last season. I wonder what Arsenal's record is over their last 20 prem games or so??? (obviously including last years EPL games)

Well they started 2011 rather well, with almost all won games in Arsenal's most dodgy month, February, but after that lost final against Birmingham it goes like this:

Sat 01/01/11 PRL Birmingham City 0 - 3 Arsenal
Wed 05/01/11 PRL Arsenal 0 - 0 Manchester City
Sat 08/01/11 FAC Arsenal 1 - 1 Leeds United
Wed 12/01/11 LEC Ipswich Town 1 - 0 Arsenal
Sat 15/01/11 PRL West Ham United 0 - 3 Arsenal
Wed 19/01/11 FAC Leeds United 1 - 3 Arsenal
Sat 22/01/11 PRL Arsenal 3 - 0 Wigan Athletic

Tue 25/01/11 LEC Arsenal 3 - 0 Ipswich Town
Sun 30/01/11 FAC Arsenal 2 - 1 Huddersfield Town
Tue 01/02/11 PRL Arsenal 2 - 1 Everton
Sat 05/02/11 PRL Newcastle United 4 - 4 Arsenal
Sat 12/02/11 PRL Arsenal 2 - 0 Wolverhampton
Wed 16/02/11 UCL Arsenal 2 - 1 Barcelona
Sun 20/02/11 FAC Leyton Orient 1 - 1 Arsenal
Wed 23/02/11 PRL Arsenal 1 - 0 Stoke City
Sun 27/02/11 LEC Arsenal 1 - 2 Birmingham City
Wed 02/03/11 FAC Arsenal 5 - 0 Leyton Orient

Sat 05/03/11 PRL Arsenal 0 - 0 Sunderland
Tue 08/03/11 UCL Barcelona 3 - 1 Arsenal View
Sat 12/03/11 FAC Manchester United 2 - 0 Arsenal
Sat 19/03/11 PRL West Bromwich … 2 - 2 Arsenal
Sat 02/04/11 PRL Arsenal 0 - 0 Blackburn Rovers
Sun 10/04/11 PRL Blackpool 1 - 3 Arsenal
Sun 17/04/11 PRL Arsenal 1 - 1 Liverpool
Wed 20/04/11 PRL Tottenham Hotspur 3 - 3 Arsenal
Sun 24/04/11 PRL Bolton Wanderers 2 - 1 Arsenal
Sun 01/05/11 PRL Arsenal 1 - 0 Manchester United

Sun 08/05/11 PRL Stoke City 3 - 1 Arsenal View
Sun 15/05/11 PRL Arsenal 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Sun 22/05/11 PRL Fulham 2 - 2 Arsenal
Sat 16/07/11 CLF Hangzhou Lucheng 1 - 1 Arsenal
Sat 23/07/11 CLF Köln 1 - 2 Arsenal
Sat 30/07/11 CLF Arsenal 2 - 2 Boca Juniors
Sun 31/07/11 CLF Arsenal 1 - 1 New York RB
Sat 06/08/11 CLF Benfica 2 - 1 Arsenal
Sat 13/08/11 PRL Newcastle United 0 - 0 Arsenal
Tue 16/08/11 UCL Arsenal 1 - 0 Udinese

Sat 20/08/11 PRL Arsenal 0 - 2 Liverpool
Wed 24/08/11 UCL Udinese 1 - 2 Arsenal
Sun 28/08/11 PRL Manchester United 8 - 2 Arsenal
Sat 10/09/11 PRL Arsenal 1 - 0 Swansea City
Tue 13/09/11 UCL Borussia Dortmund 1 - 1 Arsenal
Sat 17/09/11 PRL Blackburn Rovers 4 - 2 Arsenal

christmasborocooper wrote:

shazlx wrote:Is it bad for me to say that we actually played fairly well today. Overall a performance showing that the team is getting used to each other. Just ridiculous defending, otherwise a positive performance. As rare as a Chamakh goal is, how about two amazing crosses from Walcott in a single game . Good midfield performance with Arteta and Song doing well.

I think we will sort out the defense. Two very unlucky own goals, offside goal and a wicked finish. It must be Arsenal, it has to get better soon!!

How were the own goals unlucky? The 2nd one especially...great play from the Blackburn player meant he couldnt do anything to stop it, it was forced on him..thats nothing to do with luck.

The 1st one was completely random. The 2nd one wasn't forced. He wasn't cutting out a cross that would have been tapped in by a forward putting pressure on him. I think Koscienly thought the GK would have got it so didn't expect it to get to him. Poor from Koscienly and he should defend like the ball was coming through to him but it wasn't inevitable.