Premier League Discussion 17/18 September 2011

The first might have been a bit unlucky for Song. It wasn't unlucky for Arsenal. It was a ball clipped in at no pace, there was no attacking player applying pressure, and we didn't deal with it proactively. There was Song, and another defender a bit in front of him, and one of them should have come out to attack the ball. You let a ball like that just drop in and it can take a bad deflection like that.

shazlx wrote:

christmasborocooper wrote:

shazlx wrote:Is it bad for me to say that we actually played fairly well today. Overall a performance showing that the team is getting used to each other. Just ridiculous defending, otherwise a positive performance. As rare as a Chamakh goal is, how about two amazing crosses from Walcott in a single game . Good midfield performance with Arteta and Song doing well.

I think we will sort out the defense. Two very unlucky own goals, offside goal and a wicked finish. It must be Arsenal, it has to get better soon!!

How were the own goals unlucky? The 2nd one especially...great play from the Blackburn player meant he couldnt do anything to stop it, it was forced on him..thats nothing to do with luck.

The 1st one was completely random. The 2nd one wasn't forced. He wasn't cutting out a cross that would have been tapped in by a forward putting pressure on him. I think Koscienly thought the GK would have got it so didn't expect it to get to him. Poor from Koscienly and he should defend like the ball was coming through to him but it wasn't inevitable.

So not unlucky..

Wow 3 wins in 16 and a total of 16 points...thats relegation form for nearly half a season, i didnt realise it was that bad.

What changes would you gooners like to see to try and change it around ? how long do you think this might take....surley you cant really finish outside the top 6.

The Professor wrote:

shazlx wrote:Is it bad for me to say that we actually played fairly well today. Overall a performance showing that the team is getting used to each other. Just ridiculous defending, otherwise a positive performance. As rare as a Chamakh goal is, how about two amazing crosses from Walcott in a single game . Good midfield performance with Arteta and Song doing well.

I think we will sort out the defense. Two very unlucky own goals, offside goal and a wicked finish. It must be Arsenal, it has to get better soon!!

With Wenger in charge?

The 'offside' was too close to call mate. If any doubt the advantage should always go to the attacker. Good refreeing IMO.

We regularly have bouts of solidity on defense when the attack is sorted. Wenger is focusing on the midfield and attack right now it seems as we were suffering from a chronic lack of creativity and goals. If that side gets sorted quick which looks like it might happen, then he should get the defense sorted soon. Its bad management from Arsenal FC that they can't work on both at the same time. We do need a Director of football who will appoint an strong minded defensive coach alongside Wenger. Wenger has too much responsibility in every aspect of club management, it needs to change.

Conceding 4 to Blackburn may push Wenger to deal with a defense over the attack first which would be a good thing. We'll see.

Goater!

Look at your City thread.

I know its not Prem but what a result for Derby. In the first min they had keeper sent off and conceeded the pen away at rivals Forest and they come back to win 2-1 !!!

2-0 QPR !!

Everyone's favourite Joey puts QPR ahead at Wolves.

And they already 2-0 up now..

christmasborocooper wrote:Goater!

Look at your City thread.

Ive replied mate Just seen he isnt on the bench today though !

Sgoater1 wrote:

christmasborocooper wrote:Goater!

Look at your City thread.

Ive replied mate Just seen he isnt on the bench today though !

Cheers

Yeah I think they were saying they got him too late to put him in the side today, expected to play some part on Tuesday.

Gabby

3 goals - already better than last season I think! Bit of luck with the way it fell to him.

Fuck, both my clean sheets went in a minute for Newcastle (R Taylor) And West Brom (Shorey). Can't anyone defend anymore in this league?

debaser wrote:Gabby

3 goals - already better than last season I think! Bit of luck with the way it fell to him.

Great cross from Bannan, and a good volley shot just now. Talented.

fcb wrote:

debaser wrote:Gabby

3 goals - already better than last season I think! Bit of luck with the way it fell to him.

Great cross from Bannan, and a good volley shot just now. Talented.

He's the Scottish Iniesta dontcha know

Argh Sandra Bent just missed a sitter. Would've been a lovely goal. Petrov probably should've just shot though.

shazlx wrote:

The Professor wrote:

shazlx wrote:Is it bad for me to say that we actually played fairly well today. Overall a performance showing that the team is getting used to each other. Just ridiculous defending, otherwise a positive performance. As rare as a Chamakh goal is, how about two amazing crosses from Walcott in a single game . Good midfield performance with Arteta and Song doing well.

I think we will sort out the defense. Two very unlucky own goals, offside goal and a wicked finish. It must be Arsenal, it has to get better soon!!

With Wenger in charge?

The 'offside' was too close to call mate. If any doubt the advantage should always go to the attacker. Good refreeing IMO.

We regularly have bouts of solidity on defense when the attack is sorted. Wenger is focusing on the midfield and attack right now it seems as we were suffering from a chronic lack of creativity and goals. If that side gets sorted quick which looks like it might happen, then he should get the defense sorted soon. Its bad management from Arsenal FC that they can't work on both at the same time. We do need a Director of football who will appoint an strong minded defensive coach alongside Wenger. Wenger has too much responsibility in every aspect of club management, it needs to change.

Conceding 4 to Blackburn may push Wenger to deal with a defense over the attack first which would be a good thing. We'll see.

Whilst our attack has been ridiculously overrated over the years, our main achilles hills has always been our defence or I should say how we defend as a team. Even Wenger has more or less aknowledged this in each of the past 3 summers. So tightening the back should have been the absolute priority this season. You don't lose if u don't concede, but as we've seen today, u can even score 3 goals aways from home and lose a match if u don't defend well. You build from the back, u don't build a house by starting with the roof.

Anyway, I don't have any faith in Wenger sorting out our defence(hopes he proves me wrong), so we should bring in someone just as u say.

Sheesh..im losing my money today.

Swansea 2-0 up, Lita.

Told you Danny Graham wasnt the man for them..

Sgoater1 wrote: No Graham for Swansea today, Lita makes his first start....their first goal is coming today !

What did i say

Could be about 2-2 this game. Wide open in midfield at times. Be surprised if it stays 1-0.

Hodgson's West Brom don't look so good this year but I still think he should get the England or Arsenal job.

Wigan 1-0 up

I might win some money

christmasborocooper wrote:Wigan 1-0 up

I might win some money

Scratch that.

Norwich winning as well...

Coyle must be on dodgy ground at the moment.

christmasborocooper wrote:Coyle must be on dodgy ground at the moment.

Not to worry, they play us next week.

Our team has no idea how to slow things down and keep the ball for a bit. All very hasty & direct which is just asking Newcastle to come back again and again. It's lucky Newcastle are not a very efficient attacking force, 'cause they've had enough possession and openings to score 3 or 4.

Good day of footy this so far, plenty of goals, a dodgy decision or two and most importantly - Arsenal lost.

Where's that Tchoyi fella at the moment? Injured?

Leon Best, goal machine.

Norwich give away another pen

Why does Ryan Taylor take our freekicks when Cabaye is in the team? I know he scored one against Sunderland but fuck me, we will be waiting years until he hits another one of them.

Kimbo wrote:Why does Ryan Taylor take our freekicks when Cabaye is in the team? I know he scored one against Sunderland but fuck me, we will be waiting years until he hits another one of them.

Cristiano Ronaldo syndrome.