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    Post by The Chosen Glenn Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:20 am

    if reports are to be believed and Newcastle manager Alan Pardew has a £9.99 buyout clause in his 8-year contract, chances are that he'll soon be replaced by manager who can get the best out of this talented young injury prone dirty squad.

    A lot of names have been thrown around, the usual EPL merry-go-round and some high-profile European coaches.,

    Who should Newcastle get in, and/or who will they end up with?

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    Post by Kimbo Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:30 am

    I'll take Rudi Garcia, thanks Glenn. ok

    Realistically, when we eventually get a new coach, it will be someone out of contract, so out of your list Rafa and Girard would be the most appealing. As always when we get a new manager though it will be someone I don't want.


    Local twat Steve Wraith has claimed for a while that we have Rafa lined up, but then would you take this mans word?



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    Post by debaser Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:09 am

    I voted for Gary Speed. In 8 years time, humanity will have worked out how to cure death.
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    Post by Jaime Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:34 am

    Alan Shearer? Biggrin
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    Post by rosenthal Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:20 am

    Di Matteo will be the easy pick, as he's out of work (freebie)
    As is Laurent Blanc though if they want to stay french.
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    Post by Luis Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:20 pm

    Rafa would do a good job IMO; I think it would be an ideal move for him and for Newcastle.
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    Post by Jaime Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:11 pm

    This is no offence to Newcastle but Rafa is the biggest mercenary in the world, he will only go to a team if he thinks he can win a major trophy. He isn't interested in building a project.
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    Post by Kimbo Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:49 pm

    Rafa might not have a choice but to go down a level if he wants to remain in management.

    To me style of football is just as important as their record, if they're defensive like Blanc they will be a failure, and if they play a percentage game like most British managers they will be a failure. I want the sort of manager that Swansea or Southampton would go for, that actually understands modern tactics. That's why I wouldn't want Moyes, I see him being the next O'Neill, he is going to start looking like a dinosaur very soon. But what I definitely don't want is someone that Mike and Derek know from the Casino.


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    Post by Fey Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:56 pm

    I doubt it's all Parjew's fault Kimmy. You started with 3 black midfielders yesterday, how many well playing teams do you know that have such a midfield. It's not 2005 anymore ffs. And even you can't defend Tiote anymore these days. He really is bad. Also you really need a decent 2nd goalie cause that goalie that wasnt Krul, was a bit shite.
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    Post by Balack was Coward Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:59 pm

    Shearer.
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    Post by Kimbo Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:02 pm

    Fey wrote:I doubt it's all Parjew's fault Kimmy. You started with 3 black midfielders yesterday, how many well playing teams do you know that have such a midfield. It's not 2005 anymore ffs. And even you can't defend Tiote anymore these days. He really is bad. Also you really need a decent 2nd goalie cause that goalie that wasnt Krul, was a bit shite.

    Tiote has gone from a midfielder that could dominate games, to a joke. And it's not right to call Sissoko a midfielder, under Pardew he doesn't have a position.
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    Post by Jaime Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:17 pm

    Kimbo wrote:Rafa might not have a choice but to go down a level if he wants to remain in management.

    To me style of football is just as important as their record, if they're defensive like Blanc they will be a failure, and if they play a percentage game like most British managers they will be a failure. I want the sort of manager that Swansea or Southampton would go for, that actually understands modern tactics. That's why I wouldn't want Moyes, I see him being the next O'Neill, he is going to start looking like a dinosaur very soon. But what I definitely don't want is someone that Mike and Derek know from the Casino.


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    Post by Luis Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:18 pm

    XI Juanitos wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:Rafa might not have a choice but to go down a level if he wants to remain in management.

    To me style of football is just as important as their record, if they're defensive like Blanc they will be a failure, and if they play a percentage game like most British managers they will be a failure. I want the sort of manager that Swansea or Southampton would go for, that actually understands modern tactics. That's why I wouldn't want Moyes, I see him being the next O'Neill, he is going to start looking like a dinosaur very soon. But what I definitely don't want is someone that Mike and Derek know from the Casino.


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    Rafa has already shown he's quite content to sit at home trimming his beard for a long time. Personally I hope he never works again. Ale

    Yeah he's done a shit job at Chelsea too - 3rd in the league, into a Europa league final, bloody awful.

    You clown.
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    Post by Isco Benny Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:22 pm

    Are Chelsea into a Europa League final? confused
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    Post by Luis Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:25 pm

    Disco Benny wrote:Are Chelsea into a Europa League final? confused

    Yeah Basel aren't going to score 2 at the Bridge without reply let's be honest.
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    Post by Luis Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:27 pm

    XI Juanitos wrote:This is no offence to Newcastle but Rafa is the biggest mercenary in the world, he will only go to a team if he thinks he can win a major trophy. He isn't interested in building a project.

    He built quite a project at Liverpool that's for sure <Ale>
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    Post by Balack was Coward Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:58 pm

    Lewis is a deluded rafa worshiper.
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    Post by Jaime Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:14 pm

    Luis wrote:
    XI Juanitos wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:Rafa might not have a choice but to go down a level if he wants to remain in management.

    To me style of football is just as important as their record, if they're defensive like Blanc they will be a failure, and if they play a percentage game like most British managers they will be a failure. I want the sort of manager that Swansea or Southampton would go for, that actually understands modern tactics. That's why I wouldn't want Moyes, I see him being the next O'Neill, he is going to start looking like a dinosaur very soon. But what I definitely don't want is someone that Mike and Derek know from the Casino.


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    Rafa has already shown he's quite content to sit at home trimming his beard for a long time. Personally I hope he never works again. Ale

    Yeah he's done a shit job at Chelsea too - 3rd in the league, into a Europa league final, bloody awful.

    You clown.

    What does his job at Chelsea have to do with anything? Before Abramovich hired him he had lots offers to manage again including several from Spanish clubs but the coward Benitez prefered to sit at home waiting for of the big 4 english clubs to call him rather than to try and build something with a club with fewer resources. This is what I am talking about when I say he was sitting AT HOME. Try and keep up.

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    Post by Jaime Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:16 pm

    Luis wrote:
    XI Juanitos wrote:This is no offence to Newcastle but Rafa is the biggest mercenary in the world, he will only go to a team if he thinks he can win a major trophy. He isn't interested in building a project.

    He built quite a project at Liverpool that's for sure <Ale>

    Not this again. The team he took over was already in the Champions league. Same with Valencia, he took over a team that had already been to the CL final twice in a row. Same with Inter. If it's not already a top team Rafa isn't interested.
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    Post by Luis Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:19 pm

    XI Juanitos wrote:
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    XI Juanitos wrote:This is no offence to Newcastle but Rafa is the biggest mercenary in the world, he will only go to a team if he thinks he can win a major trophy. He isn't interested in building a project.

    He built quite a project at Liverpool that's for sure <Ale>

    Not this again. The team he took over was already in the Champions league. Same with Valencia, he took over a team that had already been to the CL final twice in a row. Same with Inter. If it's not already a top team Rafa isn't interested.

    Already in the CL but badly depleted and no way near good enough for that level...and then he won the thing.

    Why shouldn't he want to go to top teams and what's more what does it say about him that top teams want him? Any top manager wants to go to top teams like Mourinho and Pep. Your argument is a poor and baffling one.
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    Post by The Chosen Glenn Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:23 pm

    XI Juanitos wrote:
    Luis wrote:
    XI Juanitos wrote:This is no offence to Newcastle but Rafa is the biggest mercenary in the world, he will only go to a team if he thinks he can win a major trophy. He isn't interested in building a project.

    He built quite a project at Liverpool that's for sure <Ale>

    Not this again. The team he took over was already in the Champions league. Same with Valencia, he took over a team that had already been to the CL final twice in a row. Same with Inter. If it's not already a top team Rafa isn't interested.


    Not this again!

    he inherited a pretty gash squad at Liverpool. Gerrard and Carragher aside the players were old or shite or both.
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    Post by Jaime Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:29 pm

    Luis wrote:
    XI Juanitos wrote:
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    XI Juanitos wrote:This is no offence to Newcastle but Rafa is the biggest mercenary in the world, he will only go to a team if he thinks he can win a major trophy. He isn't interested in building a project.

    He built quite a project at Liverpool that's for sure <Ale>

    Not this again. The team he took over was already in the Champions league. Same with Valencia, he took over a team that had already been to the CL final twice in a row. Same with Inter. If it's not already a top team Rafa isn't interested.

    Already in the CL but badly depleted and no way near good enough for that level...and then he won the thing.

    Why shouldn't he want to go to top teams and what's more what does it say about him that top teams want him? Any top manager wants to go to top teams like Mourinho and Pep. Your argument is a poor and baffling one.

    He turned down the Atletico job because he didn't think he could win a title there. Simeone took them over and did the double last year and has them in the CL places this year. That is a guy who I can respect. He's taken on a challenge. I consider Pep and Jose the same as Rafa by the way. But it doesn't matter. Anyone who doesn't suck Rafa's cock is going to butt heads with you. I understand how it works. Biggrin
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    Post by Jaime Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:32 pm

    Rafael Glenítez wrote:
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    XI Juanitos wrote:This is no offence to Newcastle but Rafa is the biggest mercenary in the world, he will only go to a team if he thinks he can win a major trophy. He isn't interested in building a project.

    He built quite a project at Liverpool that's for sure <Ale>

    Not this again. The team he took over was already in the Champions league. Same with Valencia, he took over a team that had already been to the CL final twice in a row. Same with Inter. If it's not already a top team Rafa isn't interested.


    Not this again!

    he inherited a pretty gash squad at Liverpool. Gerrard and Carragher aside the players were old or shite or both.

    Still good enough to make the CL final! Hamann, Traore, Dudek, Hyppia, Finnan, Riise - Rafa didn't sign all them did he? And maybe I'm mistaken but Antonio Nunez wasn't the fella who put you over the top.
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    Post by Luis Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:37 pm

    XI Juanitos wrote:
    Luis wrote:
    XI Juanitos wrote:
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    XI Juanitos wrote:This is no offence to Newcastle but Rafa is the biggest mercenary in the world, he will only go to a team if he thinks he can win a major trophy. He isn't interested in building a project.

    He built quite a project at Liverpool that's for sure <Ale>

    Not this again. The team he took over was already in the Champions league. Same with Valencia, he took over a team that had already been to the CL final twice in a row. Same with Inter. If it's not already a top team Rafa isn't interested.

    Already in the CL but badly depleted and no way near good enough for that level...and then he won the thing.

    Why shouldn't he want to go to top teams and what's more what does it say about him that top teams want him? Any top manager wants to go to top teams like Mourinho and Pep. Your argument is a poor and baffling one.

    He turned down the Atletico job because he didn't think he could win a title there. Simeone took them over and did the double last year and has them in the CL places this year. That is a guy who I can respect. He's taken on a challenge. I consider Pep and Jose the same as Rafa by the way. But it doesn't matter. Anyone who doesn't suck Rafa's cock is going to butt heads with you. I understand how it works. Biggrin

    You can criticise Rafa for several things - his poor stint at Inter, some poor transfer decisions at Liverpool, falling out with owners at Valencia...but only wanting to work at big clubs isn't one of them. He should be working at big clubs because he's a top manager. Liverpool was a challenge for him, we were a mediocre team more used to the Uefa cup than Champions League and he turned us into one of the best teams in Europe.
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    Post by The Chosen Glenn Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:40 pm

    let's not derail this thread. I'm not sure throwing Djimi Traore's name around strengthens your case, and as I said already the majority of players he inherited were old or shite or both. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003%E2%80%9304_Liverpool_F.C._season#First-team_squad
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    Post by Di Caniooooo! Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:55 am

    Some Frenchie.
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    Post by Balack was Coward Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:25 pm

    Benitez is a brilliant manager. But he hasn't really done much since 2009 has he? Which is 4 years ago now. That's mostly down to poor decisions and inactivity though. Taking over an Inter team who had already won it all with an aging squad was a bad career move by Rafa. But still he should have done better than he actually did at Inter,he tried to change things too fast, like changing straight away from a deep defensive line to a pressing team with a high back line, which didn't suit an ageing slowish team like Inter.

    Chelsea weren't the smartest choice either, it isn't the smartest choice for any manager as their owner is a inpatient moron and especially for him as their dickhead fans where never going to give him a chance. But still, if he wins the Europa League and finishes 3rd or 4th then it isn't a failure.

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