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    Post by stinger Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:16 pm

    christmasborocooper wrote:Valdes has signed. After Neven Subotic now they say
    So it's you who is after him. Yesterday Borussia posted a statement that Subotic left training camp to negotiate a move to a mysterious club. I have my doubts about him adjusting to Premier League, but I guess he would be a fairly big pick up for you.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:25 pm

    Sure would. I'm not going tu pretend I watch enough anymore to what this guys like, what makes you think he'll struggle to adapt?
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    Post by stinger Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:43 pm

    christmasborocooper wrote:Sure would. I'm not going tu pretend I watch enough anymore to what this guys like, what makes you think he'll struggle to adapt?
    Injury prone even in league with winter break, kind of soft for a CB, in general aften had a feeling that not only Hummels, but also Sokratis kind of made him a little bit overrated. Need a stronger and  more decisive (?) partner to make it work IMO in England.

    Kind of wondering if his weaknesses will be less obvious or more obvious on team like Boro.

    This is a decent article on him - http://www.thisisanfield.com/2015/12/neven-subotic-is-borussia-dortmund-centre-back-an-upgrade-on-martin-skrtel/

    Btw, this site seems to have some decent writers, they had a quality tactical preview of Liverpool-Villarreal matches for example.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:40 pm

    Cheers I'll have a read. To be fair, Ayala is quite strong and decisive so that could suit.

    Injury prone would certainly be a worry though
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    Post by stinger Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:30 am

    Ahmed Musa to Leicester is official. Attacking players from Russian/Ukrainian league has a horrid record in Premier League, but he seems to be actually decent. Plus he can cover multiple positions and should fit well in their counter attacking style.

    Price is 16m pounds, much less than it was thrown around in January as well.
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    Post by Di Caniooooo! Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:09 pm

    Pelle signs for a Chinese side, and West Ham have signed Gokhan Töre from Besiktas on a season long loan.
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    Post by Fey Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:27 pm

    Football is so sick, those Pelle, de Rhoon and Janssen transfers are all borderline insanity.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:11 am

    De Roon any good?
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    Post by Di Caniooooo! Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:01 am

    Saints buy Ibe for £15 million
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    Post by christmasborocooper Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:50 am

    Saints?
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:23 pm

    The Bournemouth Saints sign Ibe from the Liverpool Red Devils to be their wide receiver.

    Leave him alone he's American.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:16 pm

    lol!
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    Post by Di Caniooooo! Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:55 am

    lol!
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    Post by christmasborocooper Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:20 am

    Negredo deal done.

    Subotic deal off as he needs chest surgery presumably related to his thrombosis
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    Post by Di Caniooooo! Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:33 am

    West Ham looking at Ben Yedder from Tolouse.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:28 am

    £25mil for Dutch Paulinho... Oh Liverpool.
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    Post by Kimbo Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:41 pm

    I don't really get it, they have Firmino, Coutinho, Lallana, and Mane, so I can't see where he fits into their first team. He's basically Kevin Nolan with more skill but less character.
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    Post by Fey Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:14 pm

    25 million for:
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    That traitor piece is gettin away with relegation just like Fer did. I wonder why Pool are going for him, hell Gotze was for sale it seems.
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    Post by stinger Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:09 pm

    I really hope rumours about Everton joining the hunt to get Sissoko will prove to be just rumours. Especially with 35m pounds price tag.

    Hoping Everton will dodge bullets like that with new DoF Steve Walsh in the club, he seems to have a good record and did well with Leicester.
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    Post by Kimbo Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:46 pm

    stinger wrote:I really hope rumours about Everton joining the hunt to get Sissoko will prove to be just rumours. Especially with 35m pounds price tag.

    Hoping Everton will dodge bullets like that with new DoF Steve Walsh in the club, he seems to have a good record and did well with Leicester.

    How about Sissoko and Krul for £40m? Throw in Janmaat and make it 50? He's Dutch.
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    Post by Di Caniooooo! Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:17 pm

    West Ham have agreed a deal for Jonathan Calleri from São Paulo
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    Post by Luis Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:28 pm

    Kimbo wrote:I don't really get it, they have Firmino, Coutinho, Lallana, and Mane, so I can't see where he fits into their first team. He's basically Kevin Nolan with more skill but less character.

    It's not a popular signing amongst our fans if truth be told but then I guess this is the alternative to Gotze or Reus when you lose the game that would get you into the CL.

    Assuming we offload Benteke, Allen and Balotelli that would give us roughly 50-60 million if you read the quoted figures. Add 15 mil for Ibe which takes it to 75 million.

    Mane, Winaljdum, Grujic, Karius, Matip and this other centre back we signed this week costs roughly 60 million.

    So we're still 15 million to the good before John Henry has even dipped into his pockets.

    If we can get a left back and a centre mid we look good enough to compete for top 5 or 6 without European distractions and if we can keep our best players fit.

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    ---------Firmino/Mane--------------------------------Coutinho/Ings----------------

    -----------------------------------Sturridge/Origi----------------------------------

    We have a lot of attacking players that can all score goals and Sturridge can get 20 odd by himself if he miraculously stays fit for a season.

    Midfield is fairly weak though still and big questions around Moreno and the keeper situation.

    Few interesting youngsters to keep an eye on: Ojo, Woodburn, Rossiter
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:09 pm

    He'll probably do a fine job as a squad player, it's just the transfer fee that looks out of proportion, but if you consider that transfer fee's for premier league clubs have basically doubled over the last 12 months it's probably not so bad and will look like a normal number soon enough. If you were signing him for 12/13 million it would be ok, our brains just need to adjust.
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    Post by Luis Fri Jul 22, 2016 4:32 pm

    Yeah I agree - when Leicester bid 20 million for Troy Deeney I think we just have to accept inflation now.

    Mane and Winalj scored 11 goals each last season so Klopp is probably just trying to maximise goals all over the pitch until we can get a big f**k off Suarez type player ever again.

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    Post by The Chosen Glenn Sat Jul 23, 2016 12:10 am

    Luis wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:I don't really get it, they have Firmino, Coutinho, Lallana, and Mane, so I can't see where he fits into their first team. He's basically Kevin Nolan with more skill but less character.

    It's not a popular signing amongst our fans if truth be told but then I guess this is the alternative to Gotze or Reus when you lose the game that would get you into the CL.

    Assuming we offload Benteke, Allen and Balotelli that would give us roughly 50-60 million if you read the quoted figures. Add 15 mil for Ibe which takes it to 75 million.

    Mane, Winaljdum, Grujic, Karius, Matip and this other centre back we signed this week costs roughly 60 million.

    So we're still 15 million to the good before John Henry has even dipped into his pockets.

    If we can get a left back and a centre mid we look good enough to compete for top 5 or 6 without European distractions and if we can keep our best players fit.

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    ---------Firmino/Mane--------------------------------Coutinho/Ings----------------

    -----------------------------------Sturridge/Origi----------------------------------

    We have a lot of attacking players that can all score goals and Sturridge can get 20 odd by himself if he miraculously stays fit for a season.

    Midfield is fairly weak though still and big questions around Moreno and the keeper situation.

    Few interesting youngsters to keep an eye on: Ojo, Woodburn, Rossiter

    Rossiter signed for Rangers in May ok

    If we can field that team we'll win every game, but will it be fair on the opposition? Eventually someone will notice.

    Grujic looks world class for his age Ale

    Jon Flanagan is probably being loaned out to Burnley so Wisdom/Gomez will provide backup. We do need another left back, I'm not sure why we won't pay £10m for Ben Chilwell, looks a snip in the current climate. If Jonas "German" Hector was an option we'd have him by now. Maybe Andrew Robertson?

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    Post by stinger Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:45 am

    Sunderland appointed Moyes. I would expect him to do rather well for them, maybe they will finally move to mid table with him.
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    Post by Kimbo Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:14 pm

    stinger wrote:Sunderland appointed Moyes. I would expect him to do rather well for them, maybe they will finally move to mid table with him.

    I'm hoping he will be another Martin O'Neill, he was supposed to do well with them as well. On paper he's a step up from Allardyce. Their problem of bring broke still remains though, I doubt he will be able to do much in the transfer market.
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    Post by stinger Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:05 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    stinger wrote:Sunderland appointed Moyes. I would expect him to do rather well for them, maybe they will finally move to mid table with him.

    I'm hoping he will be another Martin O'Neill, he was supposed to do well with them as well. On paper he's a step up from Allardyce. Their problem of bring broke still remains though, I doubt he will be able to do much in the transfer market.
    I rate Allardyce more than O'Neill, so for me it's different - he is upgrade comparing to O'Neill, not sure about Allardyce (but probably too).

    And Moyes during his Everton years had very good record of getting quality players for small money. Not sure if this will be possible in currrent transfer market climate, but from Sunderland finances department perspective he is probably the best manager they could hope for.
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    Post by Di Caniooooo! Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:06 pm

    Bacca rejects West Ham move, so West Ham are now targeting Simone Zaza.
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    Post by Kimbo Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:22 pm

    stinger wrote:
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    stinger wrote:Sunderland appointed Moyes. I would expect him to do rather well for them, maybe they will finally move to mid table with him.

    I'm hoping he will be another Martin O'Neill, he was supposed to do well with them as well. On paper he's a step up from Allardyce. Their problem of bring broke still remains though, I doubt he will be able to do much in the transfer market.
    I rate Allardyce more than O'Neill, so for me it's different - he is upgrade comparing to O'Neill, not sure about Allardyce (but probably too).

    And Moyes during his Everton years had very good record of getting quality players for small money. Not sure if this will be possible in currrent transfer market climate, but from Sunderland finances department perspective he is probably the best manager they could hope for.

    Back then O'Neill was rated higher than Allardyce has ever been, it was his first job after Villa, not to mention the fact he'd actually won things. Sunderland is usually death for managers, some old boys at the FA have helped Sam defy this.

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