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Who is the new best right-back in the World?
Mistletoe.- Number of posts : 758
Age : 29
Supports : Benfica.........likes Millwall e U.A.Povoense
Registration date : 2006-09-08
Mo Ross or Danny Senda.
110%- Number of posts : 8978
Age : 50
Registration date : 2006-08-07
L r d wrote:Lauren and geremi are not as good as neville for sure. Lauren is rubbish infact, and geremi is really a midfield, hes doing ok at rb, but has played 5 games in the last 2 years.
This proves the point that neville is just not that good. You take a midfielder like geremi, essien, gerrard and they'll do a a better job at right back than neville. They might be slightly less solid defensively, but they have so much more to the rest of their game.
Neville has done remarkably well for a player of limited ability and speed.
Parks lives- Number of posts : 34521
Age : 43
Favourite Player : The Ginger One
Registration date : 2006-08-06
110% wrote:L r d wrote:Lauren and geremi are not as good as neville for sure. Lauren is rubbish infact, and geremi is really a midfield, hes doing ok at rb, but has played 5 games in the last 2 years.
This proves the point that neville is just not that good. You take a midfielder like geremi, essien, gerrard and they'll do a a better job at right back than neville. They might be slightly less solid defensively, but they have so much more to the rest of their game.
Neville has done remarkably well for a player of limited ability and speed.
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L r d wrote:Lauren and geremi are not as good as neville for sure. Lauren is rubbish infact, and geremi is really a midfield, hes doing ok at rb, but has played 5 games in the last 2 years.
For the past 6 years he has been consistantly good for Arsenal, what are you basing that opinion on.
Sure I would say that Neville is the better player, but to say Lauren is rubbish is just utter nonsense.
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110% wrote:L r d wrote:Lauren and geremi are not as good as neville for sure. Lauren is rubbish infact, and geremi is really a midfield, hes doing ok at rb, but has played 5 games in the last 2 years.
This proves the point that neville is just not that good. You take a midfielder like geremi, essien, gerrard and they'll do a a better job at right back than neville. They might be slightly less solid defensively, but they have so much more to the rest of their game.
Neville has done remarkably well for a player of limited ability and speed.
You are thinking over a short period. They might be good there for the odd game, or half a game, or like geremi a short run of games, but over a long period, eventually they would be shown up. Neville is very consistent and it's why he has been very successful. I agree cafu, Zanetti diff class to him.
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Cesc-Fab wrote:L r d wrote:Lauren and geremi are not as good as neville for sure. Lauren is rubbish infact, and geremi is really a midfield, hes doing ok at rb, but has played 5 games in the last 2 years.
For the past 6 years he has been consistantly good for Arsenal, what are you basing that opinion on.
Sure I would say that Neville is the better player, but to say Lauren is rubbish is just utter nonsense.
It's nothing to do with Neville. Lauren is just rubbish, always was the weak link, I saw Eboue for Ivory Coast thought how can he be behind him, soon enough he got a chance, that was it for Lauren. Despite Tweedle telling me Gilbert was better than Eboute
You should stop smacking yourself in the face there cesc, You did that when i said Ronaldo was man of the match, everywhere i read or saw after happenend to agree with me
Parks lives- Number of posts : 34521
Age : 43
Favourite Player : The Ginger One
Registration date : 2006-08-06
Lauren is abit like Geremi. Very good attacking right back and against most teams he will look fine but against good sides or good wingers he will have problems.
He'll never get his place back now for instance.
He'll never get his place back now for instance.
Cesc- Guest
SkySports seemed to disagree. Only the rags like 'The Sun' seemed to take your side. If you look back I said he didn't play bad, I just thought Rio and Scholes were better.L r d wrote:Cesc-Fab wrote:L r d wrote:Lauren and geremi are not as good as neville for sure. Lauren is rubbish infact, and geremi is really a midfield, hes doing ok at rb, but has played 5 games in the last 2 years.
For the past 6 years he has been consistantly good for Arsenal, what are you basing that opinion on.
Sure I would say that Neville is the better player, but to say Lauren is rubbish is just utter nonsense.
It's nothing to do with Neville. Lauren is just rubbish, always was the weak link, I saw Eboue for Ivory Coast thought how can he be behind him, soon enough he got a chance, that was it for Lauren. Despite Tweedle telling me Gilbert was better than Eboute
You should stop smacking yourself in the face there cesc, You did that when i said Ronaldo was man of the match, everywhere i read or saw after happenend to agree with me
MoTD highlighted the two incidents which you dismissed.
Cesc- Guest
Nah he has a very good chance to get back in the side.ParktheHeraldAngelsSing wrote:Lauren is abit like Geremi. Very good attacking right back and against most teams he will look fine but against good sides or good wingers he will have problems.
He'll never get his place back now for instance.
Eboue has been good but has cost us at the same time. His histionics vs Spurs at the weekend were embaressing. Also he should of done much better for Dyers goal a few weeks back.
Eboue is a very good player, but not yet the full article.
Parks lives- Number of posts : 34521
Age : 43
Favourite Player : The Ginger One
Registration date : 2006-08-06
Really? I know he's not the best defensively but I thought Eboue was having a very good season otherwise.
DeLux- Number of posts : 4399
Age : 38
Supports : Celta Vigo
Favourite Player : Mostovoi, Xavi, David Silva, Valerón, Raúl
Registration date : 2006-08-10
Sergio Ramos.
Torrente- Number of posts : 5489
Age : 39
Registration date : 2006-08-16
If Ramos remains at RB for Real Madrid there is no doubt he will be in the top 5 RBs in the world very soon. At the moment I think he is but he needs more games to prove that he will keep this level of performances. Recently had Dinho in his pocket all game, great going forward, great at crossing, goal threat in dead ball situations due to his heading ability. Last night's assist to Ronaldo was a also a thing of beauty. And the guy is only 20!!!
DeLux- Number of posts : 4399
Age : 38
Supports : Celta Vigo
Favourite Player : Mostovoi, Xavi, David Silva, Valerón, Raúl
Registration date : 2006-08-10
Worth 27 million?
Torrente- Number of posts : 5489
Age : 39
Registration date : 2006-08-16
Santa de Bahia wrote:Worth 27 million?
No 19 year old is worth 27 million. But I don't think any madridista will regret the money we spent on him. He can play with us for at least another 13 seasons and he seems to be a natural born leader. Expect Ramos to be our captain at some point in the future. For such a young defender, I still find it hard to believe just how good and versatile he is. A Madrid legend in the making. No doubt about that
La Saeta Rubia- Number of posts : 5244
Age : 44
Supports : Real Madrid
Registration date : 2006-08-07
I agree with Torrente, S.Ramos will be one of the best right backs in the world very shortly. I also think he`s a much better right back than he is a center back.
27m was a bit much but i think in the long run he will prove he was worth it.
27m was a bit much but i think in the long run he will prove he was worth it.
Jaime- Number of posts : 32027
Age : 46
Supports : Real Madrid CF
Favourite Player : Butragueño, Redondo, Raúl, Guti, Casillas, Sergio Ramos, Isco, Carvajal
Registration date : 2006-08-08
That assist to Ronaldo reminded me of a pass Hierro would make...
The Pröfessör- Number of posts : 10076
Age : 74
Registration date : 2006-08-07
La Saeta Rubia wrote:I agree with Torrente, S.Ramos will be one of the best right backs in the world very shortly. I also think he`s a much better right back than he is a center back.
27m was a bit much but i think in the long run he will prove he was worth it.
Tweesus- Number of posts : 34851
Age : 41
Registration date : 2006-08-06
Well defensively I'd go Zanetti still.
Alvez is close attackwise but he needs to be a regualr in the Brazil squad before we all start calling him 'the best'
For me Zambo is better as a left back, though he is a fantastic right back as well.
Willy Sagnol? He has a good shout
Alvez is close attackwise but he needs to be a regualr in the Brazil squad before we all start calling him 'the best'
For me Zambo is better as a left back, though he is a fantastic right back as well.
Willy Sagnol? He has a good shout
Tweesus- Number of posts : 34851
Age : 41
Registration date : 2006-08-06
Messiah wrote:Zambrotta/Sangol
Young
Alves&Miguel
You rate Luke Young that highly?!
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Tinseldum wrote:Messiah wrote:Zambrotta/Sangol
Young
Alves&Miguel
You rate Luke Young that highly?!
No what should have been thier is young RB
bluenine- Number of posts : 22998
Age : 50
Supports : www.footballspeak.com
Favourite Player : Zanetti
Registration date : 2006-08-08
Tinseldum wrote:Well defensively I'd go Zanetti still.
Alvez is close attackwise but he needs to be a regualr in the Brazil squad before we all start calling him 'the best'
For me Zambo is better as a left back, though he is a fantastic right back as well.
Willy Sagnol? He has a good shout
I can probably be more certain of Serie A than of the entire world, so in Serie A J Zanetti is the best, and has been over the last 10 years.
The only one close to him at the mo is Oddo (in Serie A) and then followed by Zaccardo/Panucci/Maicon.
Tweesus- Number of posts : 34851
Age : 41
Registration date : 2006-08-06
Zanetti and cafu were both World Class - of the younger defenders there's no-one that really stands out for me at present, the ones that are mentions are usually wingbacks rather than full backs and lack defensively
fcb- Number of posts : 40471
Age : 113
Supports : FC Barcelona
Registration date : 2006-08-11
Agree with Miguel and Dani Alves. Sagnol's crossing is quite brilliant.
Machiavel- Number of posts : 21355
Age : 36
Supports : AFC Ajax & Manchester United FC
Favourite Player : Paul Scholes & Wesley Sneijder
Registration date : 2006-08-06
Johnny Heitinga ...
Fey- Number of posts : 35349
Supports : Feyenoord and Manchester United
Favourite Player : ??#$ Error, John Guidetti, Jordy Clasie
Registration date : 2006-08-07
rai XIV Humbug wrote:Johnny Heitinga ...
Machiavel- Number of posts : 21355
Age : 36
Supports : AFC Ajax & Manchester United FC
Favourite Player : Paul Scholes & Wesley Sneijder
Registration date : 2006-08-06
FeyDerGeileWeihnachtsmann wrote:rai XIV Humbug wrote:Johnny Heitinga ...
It wasn't meant to be a joke ..
Fey- Number of posts : 35349
Supports : Feyenoord and Manchester United
Favourite Player : ??#$ Error, John Guidetti, Jordy Clasie
Registration date : 2006-08-07
rai XIV Humbug wrote:FeyDerGeileWeihnachtsmann wrote:rai XIV Humbug wrote:Johnny Heitinga ...
It wasn't meant to be a joke ..
You sure about that..
Machiavel- Number of posts : 21355
Age : 36
Supports : AFC Ajax & Manchester United FC
Favourite Player : Paul Scholes & Wesley Sneijder
Registration date : 2006-08-06
FeyDerGeileWeihnachtsmann wrote:rai XIV Humbug wrote:FeyDerGeileWeihnachtsmann wrote:rai XIV Humbug wrote:Johnny Heitinga ...
It wasn't meant to be a joke ..
You sure about that..
He is the new Frank de Boer..
Kroos- Number of posts : 9049
Age : 38
Supports : FC Bayern Munich, die MANNSCHAFT
Favourite Player : Kroos, Müller, Götze, Neuer, Gündogan
Registration date : 2006-08-07
Lahm
he is the facking best on the right and on the left side
he will become the worlds best ever, thats not a windup, i know that
and Sagnol
he is the facking best on the right and on the left side
he will become the worlds best ever, thats not a windup, i know that
and Sagnol
Effenberg- Number of posts : 3975
Age : 47
Registration date : 2006-08-07
Dani Alves easy.
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