Van Persie V Ronaldo

King Feyes wrote:

Agooner wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:All this RVP hype for 20 minutes where his only touch was a simple tap in

He is probably our best player this season.

He is by far Arsenal's best player this year. Did you see how they started to believe again when he came on!!! And he is very consistent this year!!

did u see fergie's face when he came on? he was on the touchline talking to his players... he rates Robin very high.

Agooner wrote:

King Feyes wrote:

Agooner wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:All this RVP hype for 20 minutes where his only touch was a simple tap in

He is probably our best player this season.

He is by far Arsenal's best player this year. Did you see how they started to believe again when he came on!!! And he is very consistent this year!!

did u see fergie's face when he came on? he was on the touchline talking to his players... he rates Robin very high.

he can only blame himself everybody knew Robin was talented. Arsenal's scouts stayed when Robin was banned to the Reserves and spotted his desire to be the best.

Agooner wrote:

King Feyes wrote:

Agooner wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:All this RVP hype for 20 minutes where his only touch was a simple tap in

He is probably our best player this season.

He is by far Arsenal's best player this year. Did you see how they started to believe again when he came on!!! And he is very consistent this year!!

did u see fergie's face when he came on? he was on the touchline talking to his players... he rates Robin very high.

Hehe, yeah he knew what was comming. But that a slightly injured Rvp could made such an impact. Damn Fergie must be pissed tonight.

jonathan de guzman wrote:He didn't put a foot wrong. You can't blame him for his fellow-players not looking for him.

You must understand, I rate RVP very highly and I was worried when he came on, BUT I don't like people saying he had some sort of amazing game when he scored basically a simple tap in and did nothing else.

Owen Thomas wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:He didn't put a foot wrong. You can't blame him for his fellow-players not looking for him.

You must understand, I rate RVP very highly and I was worried when he came on, BUT I don't like people saying he had some sort of amazing game when he scored basically a simple tap in and did nothing else.

Don't think he had an amazing game, but he was MOTM. Hardly on the pitch and scored the most important goal.

jonathan de guzman wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:He didn't put a foot wrong. You can't blame him for his fellow-players not looking for him.

You must understand, I rate RVP very highly and I was worried when he came on, BUT I don't like people saying he had some sort of amazing game when he scored basically a simple tap in and did nothing else.

Don't think he had an amazing game, but he was MOTM. Hardly on the pitch and scored the most important goal.

MOTM? for a tap in? Baptista did all the work with that superb backheel.

jonathan de guzman wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:He didn't put a foot wrong. You can't blame him for his fellow-players not looking for him.

You must understand, I rate RVP very highly and I was worried when he came on, BUT I don't like people saying he had some sort of amazing game when he scored basically a simple tap in and did nothing else.

Don't think he had an amazing game, but he was MOTM. Hardly on the pitch and scored the most important goal.

big game player, unlike ronaldo.

Owen Thomas wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:He didn't put a foot wrong. You can't blame him for his fellow-players not looking for him.

You must understand, I rate RVP very highly and I was worried when he came on, BUT I don't like people saying he had some sort of amazing game when he scored basically a simple tap in and did nothing else.

Don't think he had an amazing game, but he was MOTM. Hardly on the pitch and scored the most important goal.

MOTM? for a tap in? Baptista did all the work with that superb backheel.

that was henry. his movement and finish at such a crucial moment made the goal even better.

Agooner wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:He didn't put a foot wrong. You can't blame him for his fellow-players not looking for him.

You must understand, I rate RVP very highly and I was worried when he came on, BUT I don't like people saying he had some sort of amazing game when he scored basically a simple tap in and did nothing else.

Don't think he had an amazing game, but he was MOTM. Hardly on the pitch and scored the most important goal.

big game player, unlike ronaldo.

Hence, why van Persie is afraid of Bolton and Sheffield United ...

Agooner wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:He didn't put a foot wrong. You can't blame him for his fellow-players not looking for him.

You must understand, I rate RVP very highly and I was worried when he came on, BUT I don't like people saying he had some sort of amazing game when he scored basically a simple tap in and did nothing else.

Don't think he had an amazing game, but he was MOTM. Hardly on the pitch and scored the most important goal.

big game player, unlike ronaldo.

Needed an illegal goal Agooner. Don't worry about it, it makes up for Essien's I guess.

Agooner wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:He didn't put a foot wrong. You can't blame him for his fellow-players not looking for him.

You must understand, I rate RVP very highly and I was worried when he came on, BUT I don't like people saying he had some sort of amazing game when he scored basically a simple tap in and did nothing else.

Don't think he had an amazing game, but he was MOTM. Hardly on the pitch and scored the most important goal.

MOTM? for a tap in? Baptista did all the work with that superb backheel.

that was henry. his movement and finish at such a crucial moment made the goal even better.

I'm pretty sure that was Bappy...

Hendrik Krol wrote:

Agooner wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:He didn't put a foot wrong. You can't blame him for his fellow-players not looking for him.

You must understand, I rate RVP very highly and I was worried when he came on, BUT I don't like people saying he had some sort of amazing game when he scored basically a simple tap in and did nothing else.

Don't think he had an amazing game, but he was MOTM. Hardly on the pitch and scored the most important goal.

big game player, unlike ronaldo.

Hence, why van Persie is afraid of Bolton and Sheffield United ...

yes bolton and sheff. united are big teams

Owen Thomas wrote:

Agooner wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:He didn't put a foot wrong. You can't blame him for his fellow-players not looking for him.

You must understand, I rate RVP very highly and I was worried when he came on, BUT I don't like people saying he had some sort of amazing game when he scored basically a simple tap in and did nothing else.

Don't think he had an amazing game, but he was MOTM. Hardly on the pitch and scored the most important goal.

MOTM? for a tap in? Baptista did all the work with that superb backheel.

that was henry. his movement and finish at such a crucial moment made the goal even better.

I'm pretty sure that was Bappy...

please watch the replay

Agooner wrote:

Hendrik Krol wrote:

Agooner wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:He didn't put a foot wrong. You can't blame him for his fellow-players not looking for him.

You must understand, I rate RVP very highly and I was worried when he came on, BUT I don't like people saying he had some sort of amazing game when he scored basically a simple tap in and did nothing else.

Don't think he had an amazing game, but he was MOTM. Hardly on the pitch and scored the most important goal.

big game player, unlike ronaldo.

Hence, why van Persie is afraid of Bolton and Sheffield United ...

yes bolton and sheff. united are big teams

And Arsenal cant beat them .. van Persie, didnt perform in these games did he?

Agooner wrote:

Hendrik Krol wrote:

Agooner wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:He didn't put a foot wrong. You can't blame him for his fellow-players not looking for him.

You must understand, I rate RVP very highly and I was worried when he came on, BUT I don't like people saying he had some sort of amazing game when he scored basically a simple tap in and did nothing else.

Don't think he had an amazing game, but he was MOTM. Hardly on the pitch and scored the most important goal.

big game player, unlike ronaldo.

Hence, why van Persie is afraid of Bolton and Sheffield United ...

yes bolton and sheff. united are big teams

Did RVP play in the WC? Didn't see him Agooner

Owen Thomas wrote:

Agooner wrote:

Hendrik Krol wrote:

Agooner wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:He didn't put a foot wrong. You can't blame him for his fellow-players not looking for him.

You must understand, I rate RVP very highly and I was worried when he came on, BUT I don't like people saying he had some sort of amazing game when he scored basically a simple tap in and did nothing else.

Don't think he had an amazing game, but he was MOTM. Hardly on the pitch and scored the most important goal.

big game player, unlike ronaldo.

Hence, why van Persie is afraid of Bolton and Sheffield United ...

yes bolton and sheff. united are big teams

Did RVP play in the WC? Didn't see him Agooner

He was our best player Owen

King Feyes wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

Agooner wrote:

Hendrik Krol wrote:

Agooner wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:He didn't put a foot wrong. You can't blame him for his fellow-players not looking for him.

You must understand, I rate RVP very highly and I was worried when he came on, BUT I don't like people saying he had some sort of amazing game when he scored basically a simple tap in and did nothing else.

Don't think he had an amazing game, but he was MOTM. Hardly on the pitch and scored the most important goal.

big game player, unlike ronaldo.

Hence, why van Persie is afraid of Bolton and Sheffield United ...

yes bolton and sheff. united are big teams

Did RVP play in the WC? Didn't see him Agooner

He was our best player Owen

Doesn't say much considering you were shit

Owen Thomas wrote:

Agooner wrote:

Hendrik Krol wrote:

Agooner wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:He didn't put a foot wrong. You can't blame him for his fellow-players not looking for him.

You must understand, I rate RVP very highly and I was worried when he came on, BUT I don't like people saying he had some sort of amazing game when he scored basically a simple tap in and did nothing else.

Don't think he had an amazing game, but he was MOTM. Hardly on the pitch and scored the most important goal.

big game player, unlike ronaldo.

Hence, why van Persie is afraid of Bolton and Sheffield United ...

yes bolton and sheff. united are big teams

Did RVP play in the WC? Didn't see him Agooner

Holland's best player , ask any dutchman. Prompted many dutch people to call for the team to be built around him

he is BY FAR the best player. Especially in the Oranje team he made a HUGE impact!!!! The only one that really is irreplaceable

Ricardo Jol wrote:he is BY FAR the best player. Especially in the Oranje team!!!!

ronaldo isnt to bad for portugal. rvp has been good + a few goals this season.

ronaldo has been out of this world. the arsenal fans are very deluded

Ronaldo not a big game player???

Euro 2004 & WC 2006?

4-2 at Highbury in 2004?

+ RVP has 2 years on him.

Ronaldo is dominating the league in a similar manner to which Robben was dominating in 2003-04. RVP has yet to do this.

TeamSpirit™ wrote:Ronaldo not a big game player???

Euro 2004 & WC 2006?

4-2 at Highbury in 2004?

+ RVP has 2 years on him.

Ronaldo is dominating the league in a similar manner to which Robben was dominating in 2003-04. RVP has yet to do this.

It's just the fashionable thing to say nowadays for any player who does not play well in 1 big game.

Owen Thomas wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:He didn't put a foot wrong. You can't blame him for his fellow-players not looking for him.

You must understand, I rate RVP very highly and I was worried when he came on, BUT I don't like people saying he had some sort of amazing game when he scored basically a simple tap in and did nothing else.

He didn't play an amazing game, but I don't like people saying he had some sort of abysmal game when he had an huge impact as a supersub and made his tough goal under pressure (which he created something out of nothing) that turned the game around and discredit it as a simple tap in.

TeamSpirit wrote:Ronaldo not a big game player???

Euro 2004 & WC 2006?

4-2 at Highbury in 2004?

+ RVP has 2 years on him.

Ronaldo is dominating the league in a similar manner to which Robben was dominating in 2003-04. RVP has yet to do this.

In EC04 Ronaldo had an impact but not as big at its made out to be - he was still very much the show pony without end product. To a lesser degree as well during WC06 (with the exception of the game against England), which is more remembered for his diving and Figo, Deco and Maniche's performance. Crap in the first two 1st round games, subbed out of both, sat out the third game, injured against Netherlands, came back against England, and sunk back again for the other two games.
He was more impressive during the qualification for the WC than the WC itself IMHO.

RVP was wasted by Wenger for two years. First year as the Diva couldn't handle competition, and then as Wenger stuck out with the 8-fold more expensive Reyes in hope to get his money back. As obvioulsy talented as RVP was, a possible "failure" of him due to lack of games was in the better interest than benching the heartless underperforming Reyes who was a financial liabilty.
This is the first *real* season of RVP in Arsenal's starting line-up. Ronaldo's had that undisputed luxury for 3 and a half seasons so far.

Ronaldo > RVP

Simple as ..

One game does not prove anything, the course of the season

One of them has helped his team go top and a chance of winning the Premiership.

Portugal were hosting Euro 2004 they were looking pretty average, then Ronaldo comes on as sub scores, forces his way into the team, gets an assist in his next game, plays well agianst spain, Portugal go through to next round. Man of the match against Holland, scoring and assisting and giving Robben a lesson in wing play. Ps were was RVP despite being 2 years older than him?

WC 2006 scores in group stages, comes up against Hollan MVB realises hes the most dangerous player on pitch so instructs the hatchet man Bhoularouz to take him out. Comes back against England, still injured scores the most important penalty. Best player on the pitch against France, unfortunately Pauletta is useless so they lose to a dodgy penalty.

RVP didnt make the grade in euro 2004 and in WC 2006 scores a goal in group stages, refuses to pass to Robben out of jealousy, doesnt pass to RVN because he wants to score and prove he is better than Robben, does nothing against Portugal espite having a man advantage, Holland go home.

Ronaldo started because he is a great player, I dont care about politics, the only politics in football is winning and if someone can win you a game you play them. If RVp was that much better than Reyes at the time he would have played. Ronaldo despite being 2 years younger has achieved more than him. He is already better than him and when he is RVP age will be one of the best players in the world.

Hendrik Krol wrote:Ronaldo > RVP

Simple as ..

One game does not prove anything, the course of the season

One of them has helped his team go top and a chance of winning the Premiership.

It isn't really that clear cut.

Yes Ronaldo has scored 2 more than RVP but RVP has been far better in Europe that ronaldo.

Its simple as a Utd fan to say that one is a lot better than the other but he isn't that much better.

Sure he has more pace but he doesn't have the vision of rVP

Tweedle wrote:

Hendrik Krol wrote:Ronaldo > RVP

Simple as ..

One game does not prove anything, the course of the season

One of them has helped his team go top and a chance of winning the Premiership.

It isn't really that clear cut.

Yes Ronaldo has scored 2 more than RVP but RVP has been far better in Europe that ronaldo.

Its simple as a Utd fan to say that one is a lot better than the other but he isn't that much better.

Sure he has more pace but he doesn't have the vision of rVP

How has he been better in europe? Because he doesnt have any goals. Or this all your going on. what did rvp do yesterday bar score? Honestly ronaldo is one of the best if not the best player in the world. rvp is not top 10

@ Tweedle

Vision is something Ronaldo need to improve in his game, so he can get to the next level .. he has shown some signs (i.e. Rooneys goal v Man City)

He has the pace, shooting, ability in the air already..

Plus he needs to transfer his Premiership form into Europe, if Manchester United are going to mount a challenge.

One thing i worry about RVP is, he uses his left foot more often (OK its his stronger feet) but imagine if he was 'two footed' ..

Unlike RVP he is not a striker so goals are not the be all and end all of his game. He has two assists and was MOTM in both games against Befica this season. He played well away at Celtic as well. I am happy for him to not score in the whole tournament as long as he is MOTM against all the good teams we face.


RVp is a very good player, Ronaldo is a great player. It is no disrespect to RVP is it. He is playing well for you guys, is that not enough. If they both went on sale tommorrow, who do you think would be more in demand?