Barcelona Vs Liverpool - The European classic..

Stefan Kuntz wrote:

Deisler wrote:respect pool

but you are not cl winner contender in my eyes, barca was not in best shape and the whole pressure was on barca too

so good luck and another season without title ^^

Barca threw the game - so terrified they were of drawing the mighty Bayern Munchen and their watertight defence.

Barca and Inter are my favourite non-German teams, but neither deserved to go through really

Barca were so disappointing tonight

overslept the first 45 minutes

they are not nearly direct enough; a bit like Argentina; endless passing leading to nothing

Rijkaard HAS to go

Liverpool are nothing special either, but just manage to hang in there; reminds me of the Nationalmannschaft at the 86 World Cup; stuff like this can get you places

I really think Barcelona seemed to believe in their invicibility. This team, 2 years in the making reached their Zenith last season. They'll need to take a step back and realise that "party" football won't always work.

Benitez = World's best tactician

DIRK KUIJT WORKS VERY HARD.

Tweedle wrote:

Deisler wrote:respect pool

but you are not cl winner contender in my eyes, barca was not in best shape and the whole pressure was on barca too

so good luck and another season without title ^^

I'm guessing your favourites are Bayern?

no, not really

but liverpools style is perfect suited for barca, destroying, liverpool can play that perfect


hmm Deisler willl enjoy his life without football now, he has a family and money, a man dont need more

ottOld Shatterhand wrote:Barca and Inter are my favourite non-German teams, but neither deserved to go through really

Barca were so disappointing tonight

overslept the first 45 minutes

they are not nearly direct enough; a bit like Argentina; endless passing leading to nothing

Rijkaard HAS to go

Liverpool are nothing special either, but just manage to hang in there; reminds me of the Nationalmannschaft at the 86 World Cup; stuff like this can get you places

Despite having the majority of the good chances?

The only 'hung in there' for the last 15 minutes

TeamSpirit wrote:I really think Barcelona seemed to believe in their invicibility. This team, 2 years in the making reached their Zenith last season. They'll need to take a step back and realise that "party" football won't always work.

Benitez = World's best tactician

DIRK KUIJT WORKS VERY HARD.

Owen Thomas wrote:

Deisler wrote:respect pool

but you are not cl winner contender in my eyes, barca was not in best shape and the whole pressure was on barca too

so good luck and another season without title ^^

They are certainly not the Barca of last year. Shows you why teams hardly ever retain the CL, after one win you get complacent...etc

Well, we had many other problems this season (don't forget the injuries and the stupid pre-season), but you're partly right. Winning the CL involves so many extra factors and luck, that it's become a huge pinnacle, and after it there's the feeling of having nothing left to achieve.

congrats Liverpool.

it just shows football is a physical game where you have to be at 100% physically, have to be 100% focused and up for it.

there are too many players off form and Liverpool is an Atlético/Zaragoza type team that always cause us problems.

I still don't see Liverpool as favourites for the title though. It is just too unpredictable.

Owen Thomas wrote:

TeamSpirit wrote:I really think Barcelona seemed to believe in their invicibility. This team, 2 years in the making reached their Zenith last season. They'll need to take a step back and realise that "party" football won't always work.

Benitez = World's best tactician

DIRK KUIJT WORKS VERY HARD.

Dirk Kuyt actually played well.

Stefan Kuntz wrote:
Barca threw the game - so terrified they were of drawing the mighty Bayern Munchen and their watertight defence.

I wonder if you commit suicide should Lille go out tomorrow, and Bayern advance.

Everyone have Chelsea as favorites then? Not playing well but getting the results and Dogbreath is on fire.

Those saying Rijkaard must go (coughOtto and StefanKuntzcough) don't know what they're talking about.

Rai Krol wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

TeamSpirit wrote:I really think Barcelona seemed to believe in their invicibility. This team, 2 years in the making reached their Zenith last season. They'll need to take a step back and realise that "party" football won't always work.

Benitez = World's best tactician

DIRK KUIJT WORKS VERY HARD.

Dirk Kuyt actually played well.

He always plays OK. Just can't score for shit

Amidst all the winding up of Deisler, he's right on one point - there is no opponent more perfect for Liverpool and Benitez than us. Not belittling their win, but pointing out that they should always have been favourites.

kas wrote:Those saying Rijkaard must go (coughOtto and StefanKuntzcough) don't know what they're talking about.

Perfect chance to ring in Carlton Palmer as manager

Owen Thomas wrote:Everyone have Chelsea as favorites then? Not playing well but getting the results and Dogbreath is on fire.

Although Porto dealt with Drogba really well from what I saw.

Rai Krol wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

TeamSpirit wrote:I really think Barcelona seemed to believe in their invicibility. This team, 2 years in the making reached their Zenith last season. They'll need to take a step back and realise that "party" football won't always work.

Benitez = World's best tactician

DIRK KUIJT WORKS VERY HARD.

Dirk Kuyt actually played well.

He had a decent game - by WORKING VERY HARD!

blutgraetsche wrote:

Stefan Kuntz wrote:
Barca threw the game - so terrified they were of drawing the mighty Bayern Munchen and their watertight defence.

I wonder if you commit suicide should Lille go out tomorrow, and Bayern advance.

I see that being more Deisler's kinda thing, don't you ?

kas wrote:Tweedle, motivation is a big x-factor in winning the CL. Last year that was what won us the games against Chelsea, and same for them this year. After beating us, Liverpool have motivation and belief as well. Otherwise their season is trophyless. Whereas Man. Utd. are more interested in the Premiership this year. Frankly, they're not even in the top 4 favourites.

You know what, i also innitially dismissed their chances of winning it but i have realised i was stupid to do so. Being favourite mean fuck all in the ko stages of the C L as the Barca, lyon and inter results have shown.

kas wrote:Amidst all the winding up of Deisler, he's right on one point - there is no opponent more perfect for Liverpool and Benitez than us. Not belittling their win, but pointing out that they should always have been favourites.

With all due respect Kas, nice spin... but you are the Champions, how one earth could we possibly be favourites ?

We may not be ideal opposition for you, but favourites ? pull the other one...

Owen Thomas wrote:

Rai Krol wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

TeamSpirit wrote:I really think Barcelona seemed to believe in their invicibility. This team, 2 years in the making reached their Zenith last season. They'll need to take a step back and realise that "party" football won't always work.

Benitez = World's best tactician

DIRK KUIJT WORKS VERY HARD.

Dirk Kuyt actually played well.

He always plays OK. Just can't score for shit

Hasn't he got more than Saha in the league

Poor run of results and a new system he introduced a couple of games ago. I think that makes you favourites.

Was a decent match, but I predicted that liverpool would have gone through anyway. Barca just lacks the physics to be a major team for international football. MotM: Dirk Kuyt!

Obispo wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

Rai Krol wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

TeamSpirit wrote:I really think Barcelona seemed to believe in their invicibility. This team, 2 years in the making reached their Zenith last season. They'll need to take a step back and realise that "party" football won't always work.

Benitez = World's best tactician

DIRK KUIJT WORKS VERY HARD.

Dirk Kuyt actually played well.

He always plays OK. Just can't score for shit

Hasn't he got more than Saha in the league

Yes, by starting nearly twice as many games.

Saha has got 4 in Europe to be fair.

Fey wrote:Was a decent match, but I predicted that liverpool would have gone through anyway. Barca just lacks the physics to be a major team for international football. MotM: Dirk Kuyt!

Who would you vote as MOTM if ever a dutch player didn't play?

kas wrote:Those saying Rijkaard must go (coughOtto and StefanKuntzcough) don't know what they're talking about.

Care to elaborate ?

Football Genius wrote:

kas wrote:Amidst all the winding up of Deisler, he's right on one point - there is no opponent more perfect for Liverpool and Benitez than us. Not belittling their win, but pointing out that they should always have been favourites.

With all due respect Kas, nice spin... but you are the Champions, how one earth could we possibly be favourites ?

We may not be ideal opposition for you, but favourites ? pull the other one...

Like I said, the mass media and general opinion will always be that we are favourites. But only those who know the entire story behind Benitez's history against us, Liverpool's playing style, our performances this season, our injury and fitness problems, would acknowledge that Liverpool were indeed more likely to go through.

Agooner wrote:

kas wrote:Tweedle, motivation is a big x-factor in winning the CL. Last year that was what won us the games against Chelsea, and same for them this year. After beating us, Liverpool have motivation and belief as well. Otherwise their season is trophyless. Whereas Man. Utd. are more interested in the Premiership this year. Frankly, they're not even in the top 4 favourites.

You know what, i also innitially dismissed their chances of winning it but i have realised i was stupid to do so. Being favourite mean fuck all in the ko stages of the C L as the Barca, lyon and inter results have shown.

I'd only say we've got a chance as alot of the favourites have gone out.

Other than Chelsea, there's no team I'd be scared of. Still don't think we'd win it though.

Stefan Kuntz wrote:

kas wrote:Those saying Rijkaard must go (coughOtto and StefanKuntzcough) don't know what they're talking about.

Care to elaborate ?

Well, I was just about to say, what's your reasoning for saying he should go? Poor tactics?

kas wrote:

Stefan Kuntz wrote:

kas wrote:Those saying Rijkaard must go (coughOtto and StefanKuntzcough) don't know what they're talking about.

Care to elaborate ?

Well, I was just about to say, what's your reasoning for saying he should go? Poor tactics?

Yep - doesn't appear to be a great motivator either and is flakey under pressure.

I take it its someone else who decides what players they sign ?