What would it take to sack Schaaf, Wenger & Benitez ?

On Ronaldo and Saha.

Ronaldo's second half of last season was incredible. 10 goals, 7 assists, quality performances in just the second half and his performances in the World cup were full of promise.

It was more than just smug fans who thought he'd have a good season if he stayed.

Saha was almost the same, after being injured for most of the first half of last season, he remained pretty much injury free the whole 2006. His goals to minute ratio last season was incredible, less than 150 minutes per goal. He also fitted into how we was playing alot better than Ruud.

It's only since this January has he had problems with injury and in that time Larsson was able to step in and nearly replace him.


As for Ronaldo this season in the league, he has 16 goals and 8 assists and we've scored 66 goals.

Thats 36 % of the goals.

Parks lives wrote:On Ronaldo and Saha.

Ronaldo's second half of last season was incredible. 10 goals, 7 assists, quality performances in just the second half and his performances in the World cup were full of promise.

Alright then. But I wasn't overly impressed with Ronnie at the WC, tbh. He was gash in the groups (Scolari thought so too as he was subbed in all group games), and only was really good in the England game (which he only from scored a penalty), in the other games he did was no more than expected from a winger (if you're not blinded by stepovers). He did dive alot though. I'd say in WC: bad groups, good game against England, decent afterwards. Figo outshone him in all games.
His run of form in the league I thought was just that, a run of form.

It was more than just smug fans who thought he'd have a good season if he stayed.

I thought he wouldn't have a good season if he stayed, as he desperately wanted to go to Real but appeared forced to stay at United. We all get some wrong, eh?

Saha was almost the same, after being injured for most of the first half of last season, he remained pretty much injury free the whole 2006. His goals to minute ratio last season was incredible, less than 150 minutes per goal. He also fitted into how we was playing alot better than Ruud.

It's only since this January has he had problems with injury and in that time Larsson was able to step in and nearly replace him.

I won't be ridiculously harsh and say that he only got his goals in the first part of the season where you had you're easiest games, but he did get in a rot afterwards (often missed easy chances, but that's Saha type striker), and he did get injured for the second half of the season. To me no different if he got injured in the first half of the season.

As for Ronaldo this season in the league, he has 16 goals and 8 assists and we've scored 66 goals.

Thats 36 % of the goals.

That was what I wanted to avoid. My point is not Ronaldo's role during the season (we all know he's having a great one and that the collectively the team is performing), but rather when United is really struggling for a goal (to draw or win instead of a 0-0). That's when Ronaldo has its greater impact, either with a goal or assist (Ronaldo factor). That's when his worth is shown and labeled one-man team. And he influences over 60% of those games. That's where you should be looking at, otherwise you're missing the point completely about one man team.

Ronaldo was the man of the match against France, in the English papers the tabloid sports writers were told to change him from MOTM to Thruram. He was class in that game, especially considering the abuse he was getting, if they had henry instead of the horrendous Pauletta they would have beaten France. In the group stages he played 2 matches and scored 1 goal, he didnt play the last game as he had already been booked. In the second round he played a big role in Portugals only goal and then got taken out by that thug Bhoularouz under the instructions of MVB as he knew he was the most dangerous player on the pitch. So I would say in a tournament, were none of the good players turnd up, he had a better tournament than most.

if the Liverpool board don't sack the Spaniard NOW, I don't know WHEN

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/may/26/premierleague.liverpool

""Benítez puts league title as no more than an option""



Liverpool will NEVER win the EPL under Benitez , simply because the bearded Hispanic could not care less and has other priorities

bizarrely, this will not shock our Liverpool fans on here either and they will show unstinting loyalty towards the "domestic" underachiever

Amazing that all three are still in the job!!

26-Otto-19 wrote:if the Liverpool board don't sack the Spaniard NOW, I don't know WHEN

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/may/26/premierleague.liverpool

""Benítez puts league title as no more than an option""



Liverpool will NEVER win the EPL under Benitez , simply because the bearded Hispanic could not care less and has other priorities

bizarrely, this will not shock our Liverpool fans on here either and they will show unstinting loyalty towards the "domestic" underachiever

Where does he actually say in that article that "it's only an option". His actual quotes are just the same old boring preseason excuses about not having enough money.

kas wrote:

26-Otto-19 wrote:if the Liverpool board don't sack the Spaniard NOW, I don't know WHEN

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/may/26/premierleague.liverpool

""Benítez puts league title as no more than an option""



Liverpool will NEVER win the EPL under Benitez , simply because the bearded Hispanic could not care less and has other priorities

bizarrely, this will not shock our Liverpool fans on here either and they will show unstinting loyalty towards the "domestic" underachiever

Where does he actually say in that article that "it's only an option". His actual quotes are just the same old boring preseason excuses about not having enough money.

"They started spending big money and Arsenal were also spending big money on young players. We are trying to do the same but because they are continuing to spend big money, it makes it more difficult to catch up ... We will try to do our best and the key for me is to not talk about the title."



the new season has not even begun and already his motto is " The KEY is to NOT talk about the TITLE"

Better than Liverpool fans and players saying "This is our year" non-stop all summer long, only to be proved foolish by November.

What he says doesnt even make grammatical sense - how can the league be an 'option'?. Just a case of miscommunication I suspect. If Benitez isnt prioritising the league then hes the only person at Liverpool who thinks like that.

Z wrote:. If Benitez isnt prioritising the league then hes the only person at Liverpool who thinks like that.

well

a rather important one though , wouldn't you agree ?

Otto making up a fantasy story out of nothing

Well this does surprise me

Otto's so enraged by stereotypes he could be a journalist.

He'll be right to prioritise the CL for the first half of the year and he will be for the rest of Liverpool's career.

Liverpool dropped 11 points in 5 successive games after they played Derby at Christmas last season to mid table sides, they only finished 11 points behind United. They need to take points of United next season, aside from that, assuming they don't spend big, the only thing you can do is to sit and hope.

4 out of 18 this season in the big 4 league table, but more importantly they only lost twice.

Dwarf wrote:Liverpool dropped 11 points in 5 successive games after they played Derby at Christmas last season to mid table sides, they only finished 11 points behind United. They need to take points of United next season, aside from that, assuming they don't spend big, the only thing you can do is to sit and hope.

the prob they have is they always seem to throw a bad run like this in, much like the goons

I am genuinely surprised Benitez gets away with it

the one and ONLY real objective of the next season should be the EPL title

the CL and FA Cup are irrelevant

if the Spaniard is not prepared to state this publicly the board HAVE to get rid of him

the time for excuses should be finished

The Liverpool board do not take your inability to read into consideration when making decisions otto

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what would it take to sack Wenger or Benitez?

Playing like a Bundesliga team?

so

what WOULD it take to sack Benitez ?

Him proposing to buy either Klose, Podolski or Gomez

I demanded the INEVITABLE over TWO YEARS AGO

GERMANY

Eventually managers do get fired, even successful ones, so I could say now that capello will get fired by the English FA, and within the next few years it could happen it is just a question of waiting. It is about as prophetic as saying player X who is 30-odd years old will retire and 3 years later he does.

72-76-80-96-08 wrote:

I demanded the INEVITABLE over TWO YEARS AGO

GERMANY

Want me to bump all the threads you have been wrong with your prediction?

Think about it

Fey wrote:

72-76-80-96-08 wrote:

I demanded the INEVITABLE over TWO YEARS AGO

GERMANY

Want me to bump all the threads you have been wrong with your prediction?

Think about it

yesssssss bump it

The real question now is, though, what will it take for Babbel to get the sack

anglophileHedgehog wrote:The real question now is, though, what will it take for Babbel to get the sack

if he loses one game out of the next two , he is out, me thinks

let's hope for Schuster then

I think he is based near Augsburg anyway

72-76-80-96-08 wrote:

anglophileHedgehog wrote:The real question now is, though, what will it take for Babbel to get the sack

if he loses one game out of the next two , he is out, me thinks

let's hope for Schuster then

I think he is based near Augsburg anyway

Go Hanover, then... (The game better be good anyway because I'll be in the stadium)

Azubi-Coach rrrausss!

Wait a sec, have I missed something? Why do Stuttgart fans want Babbel out now...is he solely to blame for the current run of poor form?

nearly THREE years after I posted this thread

the question remains

WHAT will it TAKE to sack Schaaf, Wenger & Benitez ?

astonishing read

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article7069716.ece

would Liverpool REALLY

NOT SACK

Benitez

if they finished

FIFTH ?



MADNESS

as for SCHAAF

he REALLY HAS to go as well

after the clownish DEFENSIVE display against Valencia

and now against Bochum

it's difficult to see how he can stay

there is ZERO progress

Merte is now repeatedly talking about playing in Spain or England

Wiese is FURIOUS that the defence does not get better

and ÖZIL

RIGHTLY

refuses to sign a new contract for what is now essentially a Europa League club

I think liverpool don't want to sack Benitez because it would cost too much for them to do that.