Bundesliga Round 2

Ottl looking good though.

Nice goal by Lahm! 2:1 Bayern.

Nice goal by little Philipp...

Good goal by Philipi.

Has Bielefeld equalized?

Yes, but Stuttgart are leading again. 2:1 Stuttgart.

Prinz Poldi for Makaay now...

so it's still 2-1?

2 Sttugart players sent off so far
Antonio Da Silva
Osorio

Cacau 3 2

Schweinsteiger must have had most ball contacts today.

Beautiful combination by Bayern right now, Brazzo missing an excellent chance.

BilalShah, Bielefeld vs. Stuttgart must have been a hell of a match.

For sure ,
2 sending offs
5 goals.
What surprised me was that Stuttgart scored their 3rd goal after their second sending off.

Bochum vs. Bayern 1:2 final score.

Now I want to know why Hargreaves didn't play.

where do you see Stuttgart finishing?

Bielefeld vs. Stuttgart 2:3 final score.

I definitely will have to watch the highlights later.

blutgraetsche wrote:Bochum vs. Bayern 1:2 final score.

Now I want to know why Hargreaves didn't play.

They certainly missed him , and would be stupid to sell him.

BilalShah wrote:where do you see Stuttgart finishing?

Tough question. They do have a lot of potential in their team, but their coach Armin Veh could become a problem. They looked awful last week against Nürnberg, I haven't seen the match today yet. With a bit of luck, UEFA cup ranks, but not more.

Final scores of the second round:


Bochum - Bayern 1:2
Bielefeld - Stuttgart 2:3
Nürnberg - Gladbach 1:0
Frankfurt - Wolfsburg 0:0
Dortmund - Mainz 05 1:1
Hertha - Hannover 4:0
Aachen - Schalke 0:1
Bremen - Leverkusen 2:1
Cottbus - Hamburg 2:2

Pl. Team Matches g. d. l. Goals Diff. Points

01 1. FC Nürnberg 2 2 0 0 4:0 4 6
02 Werder Bremen 2 2 0 0 6:3 3 6
03 Bayern München 2 2 0 0 4:1 3 6
04 Hertha BSC 2 1 1 0 4:0 4 4
05 1. FSV Mainz 05 2 1 1 0 3:2 1 4
06 FC Schalke 04 2 1 1 0 2:1 1 4
07 Bayer Leverkusen 2 1 0 1 4:2 2 3
08 Borussia M'gladbach 2 1 0 1 2:1 1 3
09 VfB Stuttgart 2 1 0 1 3:5 -2 3
10 Hamburger SV 2 0 2 0 3:3 0 2
11 Eintracht Frankfurt 2 0 2 0 1:1 0 2
12 VfL Wolfsburg 2 0 2 0 0:0 0 2
13 Arminia Bielefeld 2 0 1 1 3:4 -1 1
14 Energie Cottbus 2 0 1 1 2:4 -2 1
15 Borussia Dortmund 2 0 1 1 1:3 -2 1
16 VfL Bochum 2 0 0 2 2:4 -2 0
17 Alemannia Aachen 2 0 0 2 0:4 -4 0
18 Hannover 96 2 0 0 2 2:8 -6 0

Can any of you clear this up for me. The reason i dont believe bayern over hargreaves, is didnt the bayern manager and chairman claim ruud wanted to join them for sure? Then it turned out he didnt want to at all

This is a completely different case though. Here, it's about Bayern selling a key player against their will, something they simply have never done since they became a top club. And if you see how important Hargreaves is for the club in their current situation, I think that you can believe the Bayern staff when they say that they won't sell him by any means.

Would Manchester United sell him in a similar situation? Don't think so. And, if you only have 10 days left to find a proper replacement, should the Hargreaves transfer not happen, do you think that it will be any easier for Bayern? Do you think that they want to be in your situation, complicating things for them even more, especially if they simply don't need the money?

You do the math.

I think United would if we had enough money and the player didn't want to be at the club definatly. FOr instance if Real came up with 35 million for Ronaldo he would have gone (based on the inflated Hargreaves price of 17 million)

Is the price really 'inflated' though? Real just paid 26 million euros (~17.7 million pounds) for Diarra - Hargreaves has the same age, is at least as good, and has much more international experience, winning the CL with Bayern even. And most importantly, he is an (nowadays important) English international, which automatically means that English clubs are willing to pay a higher price.

But the price is not the point here anyway, it's about principle, as repeatedly explained already. Money simply doesn't matter. May be hard to believe, but it really doesn't in this case.

Just watching the highlights of the Bielefeld - Stuttgart match, what a match! Awesome match, it had everything. Great goals, tension, heart, fighting, ridiculous referee, even more ridiculous red cards.
Stuttgart deserved to win, they showed heart, winning with two men less on the pitch! Congrats!

They are showing the highlights of the Bayern match right now. Hargreaves and Podolski joking and having fun on the bench, Hargreaves laughing all the time. Doesn't really look like he's sad about the situation.

you sound like you don't want the transfer to happen/hate the english blutgraetsche

It is obvious how much he wants to come man.
If he takes the approach of being stubborn, so will the bayern manager, and both will be stubborn and a poor outcome for him.
He should hire a pyschologist and try all the tricks

I still think it is likely that he will sign, Bayern can't keep an unhappy player. If i was him i'd be acting luike a complete fucking ass hole confronting team mates refusing to do things turn up to training late, not train properly kicking the ball as far as i could whenever i got it

poiuy1 wrote:you sound like you don't want the transfer to happen/hate the english blutgraetsche

Huh? That does not make any sense at all. I'm 'hating the English' for being logical?

I want this transfer to happen, because it would considerably weaken our most important rival for the championship. But that doesn't mean that I will turn off my brain, and completely ignore the facts. It's about reality and being realistic, this is not playing football manager.

But if you think this approach will help you and your club, go for it.