PSV Vs Liverpool

Might as well get this underway, it's probably the worst game of the round in many people's eyes, and I can understand why, after all Valencia - Chelsea sounds much more appealing right? and United - Roma will be special, Bayern-Milan is also a very good game on paper.

Never the less, Liverpool always seem to produce something on the European stage, they have an extra incentive this year also, seeing as domestically there's very little to play for, if we lose to Arsenal at the weekend then Europe will be the only focus of the season, last year we had the FA cup and were chasing second as well so maybe that played a part in the dissapointing last 16 exit to Benfica.

I thought away in Barcelona was one of our best tactical performances of the season, I was really pleased with how we played, I was delighted to see Benitez go with two strikers and everyone knew their individual role, it's yet another example of underestimation in this competition.

That brings me to tuesdays game and the tie in general, it's so vital for Liverpool that they do not under-estimate PSV, after all they are top of a strengthening Dutch league, Liverpool are favorites and rightly so but PSV will be dangerous, I can see Kuyt playing a major role seeing as he knows what PSV are about, he's hungry for goals (I don't think he's scored for Liverpool in europe yet, could be wrong) and it's about time the big boys stood up to the challenge.

The performance against Villa 2 weeks ago was not good enough, simple as that, maybe the players have lost the will to fight in the league now, which is so painfully a two horse race, but they must play to their maximum against PSV to come away with an advantage because at Anfield on a European night I wouldn't like to be an opposing team.

I'll be at the PSV home game in a few weeks time and I hope to have a relaxing evening, which is quite the oppisite of what I could describe the last European home game as.

Prediction :

PSV 1-1 Liverpool
Liverpool 2-0 PSV

Is Alex out for this one? If so, that makes Liverpool favourites (yes, I rate him that highly) although Gomes is a class keeper.

The deciding factor will be Benitez's tactics. Will he line up offensively in Eindhoven as he did in Barcelona, or will it be a more cautious Liverpool line-up?

Alex is out

So Liverpool are favourites.
Because Alex is out.

It will be the most boring game ever, the 2 shittest teams left in the CL.

Murray wrote:It will be the most boring game ever, the 2 shittest teams left in the CL.

For PSleepV you can't expect something else because with hardly any money you hardly can win things without playing dull...


But.... Liverp :sleep:l...?

They can buy the whole world but they still annoy the neutral football fan....

Imo Penis v Eindhoven doesnt have a change this time! Alex out, Kone out, Farfan out of form etc. And liverpool has Kuyt ofcourse!

Ricardo Jol wrote:

Murray wrote:It will be the most boring game ever, the 2 shittest teams left in the CL.

For PSleepV you can't expect something else because with hardly any money you hardly can win things without playing dull...


But.... Liverp :sleep:l...?

They can buy the whole world but they still annoy the neutral football fan....

Ye, tis a shame that Drogba and Ronaldo aren't producing for us, oh sorry that's right we haven't bought them.

Are we not entertaining enough for you in Europe? try buying a DVD of the 2004/2005 season for Liverpool, you'll find such nights as Liverpool 3-1 Olympiacos, Liverpool 2-1 Juventus and that small game Liverpool 3-3 Milan, Liverpool win on penalties incase you don't know.

Case closed.

Hah, PSV are considering playing 16 year old striker Genaro Zeefuik (how cool is that name btw), if you don't get scared now then I don't know what will have you running for the hills

Axeslammer wrote:Hah, PSV are considering playing 16 year old striker Genaro Zeefuik (how cool is that name btw), if you don't get scared now then I don't know what will have you running for the hills

Is "Zweefduik" another Robben? Farfán...?

I think we will line up as follows tomorrow:

....................Reina......................

Finnan...........Carra...........Agger.............Aurellio............

......Gerrard..........Macha.......Alonso...........Pennant.........

........................Kuyt...............Crouch...................

Would that make him the youngest player in CL history ever?

Luis wrote:I think we will line up as follows tomorrow:

....................Reina......................

Finnan...........Carra...........Agger.............Aurellio............

......Gerrard..........Macha.......Alonso...........Pennant.........

........................Kuyt...............Crouch...................

Pennant on the left?

Crikey we need Luis back.

Can't see Pennant being left out after a great performace at the weekend, maybe Gerrard might play on the left and Pennant on the right

......................reina

finnan........carra.......agger....auerlio

gerrard....masch.......xabi.......riise

...............kuyt.......bellamy

Cesc wrote:Would that make him the youngest player in CL history ever?

They played him in the competition and he looked good.

Because PSV didn't see their wave of injuries coming (and loaned out three excellent young players) they never registered him at the UEFA, so he isn't eligble for the CL

PSV managed only 13 points out of 13 matches in the league after the winterbreak, Ajax have closed the gap to 3 points with only four matches to go....

....it wouldn't surprise if PSV were to throw the matches against Liverpool. They can't risk another injury and need all players as fit as possible to win the title and thus play CL against next year.

The CL is generating so much money that PSV can't risk missing out on out it. So to ensure next years CL gravy train PSV has to give up this years chances of reaching the next stage...

Good system

Salcido is also out. Alex out. Kone out, Reiziger out, Kromkamp out.


Good news, Farfan is finding form, and Kluivert is back!

The backs will be the weakest link. Oh I pity Gomes. The man doens't deserve that shite in front of him.

Cesc wrote:Would that make him the youngest player in CL history ever?

Possibly Aissatti?!

DD wrote:Salcido is also out. Alex out. Kone out, Reiziger out, Kromkamp out.

Salcido might make it, but Afellay is probably out (again)

Axeslammer wrote:

DD wrote:Salcido is also out. Alex out. Kone out, Reiziger out, Kromkamp out.

Salcido might make it, but Afellay is probably out (again)

Oh well, its as close to a bye for pool anyway.

Understimation is powerful

Maybe Koeman himself can put his football-boots on again

Axeslammer wrote:Maybe Koeman himself can put his football-boots on again

I watched Man United vs Barcelona, the 1991 Cup winners cup final the other day on MUTV.

He was superb in that game. What a player.

Parks lives wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:Maybe Koeman himself can put his football-boots on again

I watched Man United vs Barcelona, the 1991 Cup winners cup final the other day on MUTV.

He was superb in that game. What a player.

I heard his stats the other day, I think he scored 1 in 4 over his entire career.

That's not bad for a defender

He scored a free kick in that game as well, in a moment when we'd just looked to have won it.

Ronald Koeman player stats :

1980/81 FC Groningen 24 4
1981/82 FC Groningen 32 15
1982/83 FC Groningen 33 14

32 goals in 89 appearences for FC Groningen = 0.36 on average

1983/84 Ajax 32 7
1984/85 Ajax 30 9
1985/86 Ajax 32 7

23 goals in 94 appearences for Ajax = 0.24 on average

1986/87 PSV 34 16
1987/88 PSV 32 21
1988/89 PSV 32 14

51 goals in 98 appearences for PSV = 0.52 on average

That's *insane*

1989/90 Barcelona 36 14
1990/91 Barcelona 20 6
1991/92 Barcelona 35 16
1992/93 Barcelona 33 11
1993/94 Barcelona 35 11
1994/95 Barcelona 32 9

67 goals in 191 appearences = 0.35 on average

1995/96 Feyenoord 31 10
1996/97 Feyenoord 30 9

19 goals in 61 appearences = 0.31 on average

Total 193 goals in 533 appearences for clubs = 0.36 on average

14 goals for Holland in 73 matches = 0.19 on average

Grand total = 207 goals in 606 appearences = 0.34 on average


That's 1 in 3 over an entire carreer.....as a central defender

WTF, Liverpool are using Italian tactics :

Liverpool aast op PSV-talent Género Zeefuik

3/4/2007 8 :22

Het gaat snel met Género Zeefuik. Koud zijn debuut gemaakt in de hoofdmacht van PSV en nu al in de belangstelling van Liverpool.

De interesse voor Zeefuik is mede ingegeven door de wens van Liverpool talenten al op jonge leeftijd aan te trekken. Zo werd Ajax-belofte Jordy Brouwer eind januari al vastgelegd. Maar de toenadering is pikant, omdat The Reds in de kwartfinale van Champions League tegenover PSV staan.

Dat treffen biedt ook voordelen. Volgens De Telegraaf praten Liverpool en PSV voor hun eerste kwartfinale over Zeefuik, die afgelopen zaterdag tegen NAC Breda debuteerde in de Eindhovense hoofdmacht.

Hoewel trainer Ronald Koeman complimenten had voor Zeefuik, zal de zestienjarige aanvaller in de dubbele ontmoeting met Liverpool niet meespelen. De Amsterdammer is niet speelgerechtigd voor de Champions League.

Zeefuik is bezig met zijn eerste seizoen bij PSV. Afgelopen zomer maakte hij de overstap van FC Omniworld. Hij heeft ook de jeugdopleiding van Ajax gevolgd.

In a weird way I don't like going into the tie as favourites. Last time we were favourites in the knockout stage was v Benfica last year

Also PSV are obviously going to be happy to park the bus which will make for a very frustrating match.

I can see this being an incredibly dull game to be fair, I may watch the Milan V bayern game.

Any idea on the Pool lineup?