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    Post by bluenine Fri May 11, 2007 1:13 am

    Let me do a parky...

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    Post by zen and the art of Fri May 11, 2007 3:19 am

    Scholes and Spurs in general.

    Kimbo was spot fuckin' on about Spurs. I apologise for ever doubting him.
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    Post by AsianBoy Fri May 11, 2007 3:37 am

    China Dong i guess.
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Fri May 11, 2007 3:58 am

    I've been absent from this forum for a long time, but now I'm reaching the conclusion that in fact Alves is underrated here.
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    Post by zen and the art of Fri May 11, 2007 4:02 am

    sheva7 wrote:I've been absent from this forum for a long time, but now I'm reaching the conclusion that in fact Alves is underrated here.

    Nonesense. He was skinned by Giggs in a pre-season friendly ergo he is extremely overrated.

    Have we actually signed Lucas by the way? Nothing over here about it yet, just stuff on Portuguese forums.
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    Post by DS Fri May 11, 2007 7:06 am

    For a RB he is a poor defender , very good attacking but Sevilla seems to base their team for him , he seems a playmaker at times ,suspect defending that is why overrated.

    Who rates Carrick except , what makes him overrated?
    Vidic gets overrated and with that people underrate Herr Ferdinand.
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    Post by Parks lives Fri May 11, 2007 8:24 am

    zen and the art of wrote:
    sheva7 wrote:I've been absent from this forum for a long time, but now I'm reaching the conclusion that in fact Alves is underrated here.

    Nonesense. He was skinned by Giggs in a pre-season friendly ergo he is extremely overrated.


    Too true. ok
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    Post by COTR Fri May 11, 2007 8:40 am

    Parks lives wrote:
    zen and the art of wrote:
    sheva7 wrote:I've been absent from this forum for a long time, but now I'm reaching the conclusion that in fact Alves is underrated here.

    Nonesense. He was skinned by Giggs in a pre-season friendly ergo he is extremely overrated.


    Too true. ok
    you actually believed this for a while didn't ya spank ?? Shocked
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    Post by Isco Benny Fri May 11, 2007 9:10 am

    zen and the art of wrote:Scholes and Spurs in general.

    Kimbo was spot fuckin' on about Spurs. I apologise for ever doubting him.

    Get fucked lol!

    Berbatov is clearly underrated on here. People should be waking up and praying to little statuettes of the great man every morning. Anything less is unacceptable
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    Post by Parks lives Fri May 11, 2007 9:59 am

    COTR wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:
    zen and the art of wrote:
    sheva7 wrote:I've been absent from this forum for a long time, but now I'm reaching the conclusion that in fact Alves is underrated here.

    Nonesense. He was skinned by Giggs in a pre-season friendly ergo he is extremely overrated.


    Too true. ok
    you actually believed this for a while didn't ya spank ?? Shocked

    Err, yes. It'd be the same if he signed for you're mob as well.
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    Post by Rez Fri May 11, 2007 10:14 am

    bluenine wrote:Rez, I think almost every Serie A fan said that Roma are extremely temperamental - on their day can beat anyone, and on an off day they self destruct... we all know how they can self-destruct, and I think games like Roma 7-0 Catania, 6-2 Inter, and Lyon 0-2 Roma kinda prove the other side of Roma.

    As for players, I rate Totti as among the top 3 talents in the world... many Serie A fans do, after all he has been the best player in Serie A for the last decade. So whats the big deal about that? One game does not change anything.

    Rez wrote:
    COTR wrote:
    Rez wrote:
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    Totti + most of the Roma players apart from De Rossi

    we could turn this around and say

    ronaldo, scholes and most of the man u team after the milan drubbing Wink

    do you mind naming these roma players Rez ?

    No united fans once said, every united player was better than every AC Milan player. So how can they be overatted if no one said they were miles better than the opposition. We beat them at home and Scholes, Ronaldo and Rooney all showed they were good players. The return leg our defence didnt turn up, but the first leg showed the attacking players, were good.

    Before the Roma game all we heard was how Totti was better than any united player, Mexes and Chivu were better than Ferdinand and Vidic, Mancini better than Ronaldo. 7 goals later, they stopped making the comparisons.

    Pierre got to you then did he ??? Laughing

    roma's players are not really overrated. some of them are world cup winners not so long ago FFS. totti is probably underrated because most of us don't get to see him every week and think he is $h!t Wink

    It wasn't just Pierre but every Seri A fan, seriously I have never seen such fanaticism before. They talked about them like they were the Brazil 1970 team.

    I am sure they are good players, but overrated doesnt mean they are bad players, just not as good as others make out and considering they got trounced 7-1 they clearly arent as good as they said they were, thus they are/were overrated on this board.

    To be fair Bluenine you were ok and you said Roma are inconsistent and didnt say every Roma player, was better than there united opponent. It wasn't aimed at you.

    I dont think I have seen a team who are second in a league get hyped up so much before and a team top of a league get so underrated. The Mancini better than Ronaldo comments were the final straw. If I could be bothered to go back and bump all the pre match threads it would make interesting reading.

    Regarding Totti, I will say it again; me saying he is overratted doesnt mean, I think he is a bad player, just that he is not as good as some on the message board make out. If you look at my original posts I say C Ronaldo, who I rate highly is overrrated on this message board.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri May 11, 2007 10:30 am

    C. Ronaldo has made a dramtic switch from underrated to overrated.

    I think what makes this board interesting and almost unique is that for every player that gets overhyped, there is someone else shooting them down. I honestly can't think of any players at present for which this ying and yang doesn't occur, with the exception of possibly Kaka
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    Post by COTR Fri May 11, 2007 10:32 am

    Tweedle wrote:C. Ronaldo has made a dramtic switch from underrated to overrated.

    I think what makes this board interesting and almost unique is that for every player that gets overhyped, there is someone else shooting them down. I honestly can't think of any players at present for which this ying and yang doesn't occur, with the exception of possibly Kaka
    kaka's time will come soon enough Wink

    henry is of course the worst victim of this. he has been so heavily scrutinised in a bid to bring him down it is ridiculous
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    Post by Parks lives Fri May 11, 2007 10:33 am

    No, the pro-Ronaldinhio fans have gotten on the back of Kaka slightly.

    May say Giggs actually, not heard a bad word said about him all season, even though he's had some real shockers.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri May 11, 2007 10:35 am

    If Kaka goes in visible in the final Whistle

    It is good though, I know plenty of boards (esp club boards) where some players are untouchable and everyone thinks that either they're world class or they're $h!t.

    We even have two Heskey lovers on here Yikes pierre + arnuad
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    Post by Lard Fri May 11, 2007 10:35 am

    Tweedle wrote:C. Ronaldo has made a dramtic switch from underrated to overrated.

    I think what makes this board interesting and almost unique is that for every player that gets overhyped, there is someone else shooting them down. I honestly can't think of any players at present for which this ying and yang doesn't occur, with the exception of possibly Kaka

    C.ronaldo switch is simply because he didnt do great v Milan. But unlike Kaka he didn't get a big rest before each game.

    Take the cl out of the picture, and Kaka hasnt had the greatest of seasons at all.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri May 11, 2007 10:36 am

    Parks lives wrote:No, the pro-Ronaldinhio fans have gotten on the back of Kaka slightly.

    May say Giggs actually, not heard a bad word said about him all season, even though he's had some real shockers.

    But no-ones been saying he's world class or anything either. He's rated as a top class player that's in the twilight of his career -which is about right
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    Post by Rez Fri May 11, 2007 10:39 am

    Parks lives wrote:No, the pro-Ronaldinhio fans have gotten on the back of Kaka slightly.

    May say Giggs actually, not heard a bad word said about him all season, even though he's had some real shockers.

    I think its the Seri A fans, who say he hasnt been that great in the league and Zlatan and Totti have been the the star players in Italy.

    I think the English posters rate him the highest and the rest not so highly.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri May 11, 2007 10:45 am

    L.r.d wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:C. Ronaldo has made a dramtic switch from underrated to overrated.

    I think what makes this board interesting and almost unique is that for every player that gets overhyped, there is someone else shooting them down. I honestly can't think of any players at present for which this ying and yang doesn't occur, with the exception of possibly Kaka

    C.ronaldo switch is simply because he didnt do great v Milan. But unlike Kaka he didn't get a big rest before each game.

    Take the cl out of the picture, and Kaka hasnt had the greatest of seasons at all.

    I think you missed me point. I meant that last year, Ronaldo was underhpyed and this season he;s been overhyped. If anything, since the Milan game he's become underhyped again as people seem to think that on the big stage he cannot produce
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    Post by Fey Fri May 11, 2007 11:06 am

    So which players are underrated then?
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    Post by debaser Fri May 11, 2007 11:08 am

    Fey wrote:So which players are underrated then?
    wilfred bouma, martin laursen and gareth barry ok
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Fri May 11, 2007 11:18 am

    I Am Weasel wrote:
    zen and the art of wrote:Scholes and Spurs in general.

    Kimbo was spot fuckin' on about Spurs. I apologise for ever doubting him.

    Get fucked !

    Ditto. Liverpool have gone the whole season with a 1st choice back 4, so the possibility that we may not have reached expectations was p[ossible.
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    Post by Isco Benny Fri May 11, 2007 11:25 am

    Fey wrote:So which players are underrated then?

    And herein lies the paradox, because as soon as more than one person begins to mention the same player, they are no longer underrated anymore.

    I'd say Benni McCarthy in England, he's an ace player but doesnt get much attention in the media.
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    Post by Parks lives Fri May 11, 2007 11:30 am

    Mark Hughes said he's worth more than Burgertop.

    OVERATED!!
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    Post by Kimbo Fri May 11, 2007 11:31 am

    Fey wrote:So which players are underrated then?

    ok ok ok Shay Given and Steven Taylor. ok ok ok

    They're "elite". Ale
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    Post by Kimbo Fri May 11, 2007 11:34 am

    TeamSpirit™️ wrote:
    I Am Weasel wrote:
    zen and the art of wrote:Scholes and Spurs in general.

    Kimbo was spot fuckin' on about Spurs. I apologise for ever doubting him.

    Get fucked !

    Ditto. Liverpool have gone the whole season with a 1st choice back 4, so the possibility that we may not have reached expectations was p[ossible.

    I was right TS. Very Happy

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    Post by Tweesus Fri May 11, 2007 11:34 am

    Raul Garcia Cool
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    Post by Isco Benny Fri May 11, 2007 11:36 am

    Parks lives wrote:Mark Hughes said he's worth more than Burgertop.

    OVERATED!!

    Mark Hughes is clearly insane. No one is worth more than Burgertop, not even the coveted shrine of Jesus Christ himself.

    What about SWP? He gets plenty loads of stick on here, yet when given the chance to play regularly has proven to be a quality player in my eyes. Fabulous crosser of the ball, doesnt get much mention especially considering the criticism of the likes of Lennon and Pennant in this department
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    Post by Tweesus Fri May 11, 2007 11:38 am

    At crossing, SWP>>>>Lennon.

    His first touch is very shoddy though, on confidence there are few better wingers out there than SWP, but we haven't seen a truly confident SWP for 2 seasons now.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Fri May 11, 2007 11:56 am

    Yes, SWP's crossing is better - considering he's got 5-6 years on Lennon Rolling Eyes

    However, Pennant's crossing is in another class. One of the best in Europe, IMO.

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