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supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:i think he got 16 goals in his first season for milan right? thats pretty good. and i also think he has been made to look worse because the team has been so bad. if they get their act together he will prob get better.

In his first season he scored 17 in Serie A, with no pens. For me, that is anything but bad. This season his scoring output wasn't as good but as you have correctly pointed out, the entire team was a lot worse than last year. And let's not forget that he had to play with Pippo or NO-Goliveira or in some games as a lone striker; in addition, since Ronaldo came he started performing better and better.

Anyway for me, Gila is a victim of his own success during his Parma days. It's almost as if people will never be happy with him, unless he scores an outrageous amount of goals, like 50 in a season or something Personally, i'm very happy he is staying and i'm sure he can silence his critics. I know he can step up more and i've never denied that, but the level of abuse that he gets is completely unjustifiable when you take a look at his stats.

To be fair, RnB, it was Galliani who set Gila up for failure... there was no way Gila was ready to lead the Milan attack after Sheva left... there was bound to be disappointment!! Galliani put too much responsibility, too much expectation, too early on Gila. It was unfair on the (then) 23 yr old.

For a small club (parma) Gila can lead the attack even now... but for a big club like Milan, he is not yet ready - he ll do best as the 2nd or 3rd choice striker.

Give him 2 years, and I'm sure Gila will become a 20+ goals a season striker for a top team...

Red n' Black wrote:

supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:i think he got 16 goals in his first season for milan right? thats pretty good. and i also think he has been made to look worse because the team has been so bad. if they get their act together he will prob get better.

In his first season he scored 17 in Serie A, with no pens. For me, that is anything but bad. This season his scoring output wasn't as good but as you have correctly pointed out, the entire team was a lot worse than last year. And let's not forget that he had to play with Pippo or NO-Goliveira or in some games as a lone striker; in addition, since Ronaldo came he started performing better and better.

Anyway for me, Gila is a victim of his own success in his Parma days. It's almost as if people will never be happy with him, unless he scores an outrageous amount of goals, like 50 in a season or something Personally, i'm very happy he is staying and i'm sure he can silence his critics. I know he can step up more and i've never denied that, but the level of abuse that he gets is completely unjustifiable when you take a look at his stats.

Suazo to Inter is confirmed

The latest: Suazo joins Inter!!! Iaquinta joins Juve for £7M plus Paolucci!!! Arizmendi joins Valencia, Balzaretti joins Fiorentina

Club: IN {OUT}
1. ManU: Nani (£14M), Anderson (£16M), Hargreaves (£17M)
2. Chelsea: Pizarro (Free), Sidwell (Free) {Crespo (free)}
3. Liverpool: Voronin (Free), Lucas Leiva (£7M)
4. Real: Metzelder (free), {Beckham (free), Carlos (free)}
5. Barca:
6. Inter: Suazo (£8.5M), Crespo (free - extension), Figo (Free - extension), Viviano {Acquafresca (£2M)}
7. Milan: {Costacurta (Retired)}
8. Juventus: Iaquinta (£10M), Salihamidzic (free), Grygera (Free), RANIERI {DESCHAMPS, Bojinov (end of loan), Paolucci (£3M), Balzaretti}
9. Bayern: Ribery (£18M), Toni (£7.5M), Jansen (£7M), Altintop (Free), Sosa (£4M), Schlaudraff (£1M)... {Hargreaves(£17M), Salihamidzic (free), Pizarro (free)}
10. Lyon:
11. Arsenal: Fabianski, Muamba
12. Valencia: Arizmendi (£4M), Alexis, Sunday, Hildebrand (free) {Hernández}
13. Fiorentina: Balzaretti, Hable, Borre, Mazuch, Lupoli (free), Bojinov(end of loan) {Toni (£7.5M)}


To be confirmed (sure shot transfer news):
1. Saviola leaving Barca
2. Alex to Chelsea
3. Klose & Ze Roberto to bayern
4. Chivu to Inter, Samuel To Roma
5. Emerson to Milan
6. Semioli to Fiorentina

La Vecchia Signora signs Gabriel Milito for 20 Mill according to As

(spanish)

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Gabi/Milito/marchara/Juve/millones/dasftb/20070613dasdaiftb_25/Tes/

I heard its close, as he is Juve's main transfer objective... lets see how that goes...

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:La Vecchia Signora signs Gabriel Milito for 20 Mill according to As

(spanish)

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Gabi/Milito/marchara/Juve/millones/dasftb/20070613dasdaiftb_25/Tes/

bluenine wrote:I heard its close, as he is Juve's main transfer objective... lets see how that goes...

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:La Vecchia Signora signs Gabriel Milito for 20 Mill according to As

(spanish)

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Gabi/Milito/marchara/Juve/millones/dasftb/20070613dasdaiftb_25/Tes/

Don't know much about him as a player??

TarunDang wrote:

bluenine wrote:I heard its close, as he is Juve's main transfer objective... lets see how that goes...

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:La Vecchia Signora signs Gabriel Milito for 20 Mill according to As

(spanish)

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Gabi/Milito/marchara/Juve/millones/dasftb/20070613dasdaiftb_25/Tes/

Don't know much about him as a player??

Big and solid at the back. Doesn't have the elegance of Nesta but a very accomplished defender. I have seen him play a few times for Zara, and he has always impressed me.

He is very solid, one of the best defenders at La Liga. Real had bought him a few years back, but rejected him on the medical and sign woodgate instead ... and they have regretted that ever since... I am surprised that he doesn't start for Argies regularly, he is that good.

TarunDang wrote:

bluenine wrote:I heard its close, as he is Juve's main transfer objective... lets see how that goes...

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:La Vecchia Signora signs Gabriel Milito for 20 Mill according to As

(spanish)

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Gabi/Milito/marchara/Juve/millones/dasftb/20070613dasdaiftb_25/Tes/

Don't know much about him as a player??

Doesn't the signing of Suazo signal that 2 existing strikers are leaving or that Tevez aon't now be signed?

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

TarunDang wrote:

bluenine wrote:I heard its close, as he is Juve's main transfer objective... lets see how that goes...

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:La Vecchia Signora signs Gabriel Milito for 20 Mill according to As

(spanish)

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Gabi/Milito/marchara/Juve/millones/dasftb/20070613dasdaiftb_25/Tes/

Don't know much about him as a player??

Big and solid at the back. Doesn't have the elegance of Nesta but a very accomplished defender. I have seen him play a few times for Zara, and he has always impressed me.

Sounds like a good signing then.
It's Grygera & Milito now in the central defense

Its a bit strange.

The official story is that Suazo replaces Recoba. So now Mancio has his 5 strikers: Crespo, Ibra, Adriano, Suazo, & Cruz.

I would have believed that, except that Suazo is very similar to Adriano in his game... I just can't see these 5 strikers co-exist! I think Suazo is Adriano replacement, and once he is secured, Inter will accept Real's advances for Adriano.

Tevez is the replacement for Recoba. That makes sense. tevez will also give us the option of playing 3 strikers!

Tweedle wrote:Doesn't the signing of Suazo signal that 2 existing strikers are leaving or that Tevez aon't now be signed?

Don't you think 5 strikers is a bit over the top though?

I've seen teams struggle to keep four strikers happy - would Tevez be a starter?

2 years ago, we had 4 strikers and had huge injury/form problems. Since then Mancio has been very clear... 5 top strikers. Last season we had 6 strikers including the useless Choutos!!

The way Mancio rotates, there will be 3 strikers who will get a lions share of Serie A / CL. The other 2 will get all of Coppa, and will step in when the 3 strikers have injury or form issues.

If we get Tevez and Suazo, Tevez will be in the top 3 along with Crespo and Ibra. Suazo and Cruz will be the coppa strikers.

Personally, I think this is a bit over the top... I agree with 5 strikers, but the 5th should be a talented youngster, not a Cruz/Suazo.

Tweedle wrote:Don't you think 5 strikers is a bit over the top though?

I've seen teams struggle to keep four strikers happy - would Tevez be a starter?

I suppose Tevez could also drop back and play on the wings if needs be - he seems to like spending a lot of his time out there anyhow

Yeah, that would be the advantage with him... we can play 3 strikers, when we really want to attack.... something like:


----------Cambiasso - Stankovic
Figo ------------Ibrahimovic-----------Tevez
-------------------Crespo

That was how Recoba was useful anyways.

Tweedle wrote:I suppose Tevez could also drop back and play on the wings if needs be - he seems to like spending a lot of his time out there anyhow

Apparently we'll all get clarification on the Tevez situation over the next week - if he does leave then I guess West Ham would be more willing to sell him aborad than to another EPl team

I hope it works out.... coz I really rate tevez for a long long time now. I was very disappointed when Inter let Corinthians beat us too it for his signature in 2005.

Tweedle wrote:Apparently we'll all get clarification on the Tevez situation over the next week - if he does leave then I guess West Ham would be more willing to sell him aborad than to another EPl team

Seems like Il Chino might be on his way to Spain. Read it on Channel4 a couple of days back. So Recoba might be out then

Tweedle wrote:Don't you think 5 strikers is a bit over the top though?

I've seen teams struggle to keep four strikers happy - would Tevez be a starter?

This is Inter we're talking about. They love to splash the cash.

The latest: Tudor leaves Juve... Suazo joins Inter!!! Iaquinta joins Juve for £7M plus Paolucci!!! Arizmendi joins Valencia

Club: IN {OUT}
1. ManU: Nani (£14M), Anderson (£16M), Hargreaves (£17M)
2. Chelsea: Pizarro (Free), Sidwell (Free) {Crespo (free)}
3. Liverpool: Voronin (Free), Lucas Leiva (£7M)
4. Real: Metzelder (free), {Beckham (free), Carlos (free)}
5. Barca:
6. Inter: Suazo (£8.5M), Crespo (free - extension), Figo (Free - extension), Viviano {Acquafresca (£2M)}
7. Milan: {Costacurta (Retired)}
8. Juventus: Iaquinta (£10M), Salihamidzic (free), Grygera (Free), RANIERI {DESCHAMPS, Bojinov (end of loan), Paolucci (£3M), Balzaretti, Tudor (free)}
9. Bayern: Ribery (£18M), Toni (£7.5M), Jansen (£7M), Altintop (Free), Sosa (£4M), Schlaudraff (£1M)... {Hargreaves(£17M), Salihamidzic (free), Pizarro (free)}
10. Lyon:
11. Arsenal: Fabianski, Muamba
12. Valencia: Arizmendi (£4M), Alexis, Sunday, Hildebrand (free) {Hernández}
13. Fiorentina: Balzaretti, Hable, Borre, Mazuch, Lupoli (free), Bojinov(end of loan) {Toni (£7.5M)}


To be confirmed (sure shot transfer news):
1. Saviola leaving Barca
2. Alex to Chelsea
3. Klose & Ze Roberto to bayern
4. Chivu to Inter, Samuel To Roma
5. Emerson to Milan
6. Semioli to Fiorentina
7. Tevez to Inter

Since Saha's injury has been confirmed, looks like ManU will try and outbid Inter for Tevez.

Thats silly, coz Tevez is not a saha kinda player, he is more of a rooney kinda player.

I hope its Inter!!

Saviola's agent has confirmed he is leaving, though the destination is not yet known. Some rumours say it will be Madrid if Schuster takes over, but another club if Capello stays on.

Whos Hildebrand?

kas wrote:Saviola's agent has confirmed he is leaving, though the destination is not yet known. Some rumours say it will be Madrid if Schuster takes over, but another club if Capello stays on.

Please NO!!!

Target Man SSK wrote:Whos Hildebrand?

Tweedle wrote:

Target Man SSK wrote:Whos Hildebrand?

Don't laugh at me, enlighten me!

A german keeper from Stuttgart who is supposedly going to replace Canizares.

Otto is going to have a field day with you for asking this question

Target Man SSK wrote:Whos Hildebrand?

He's a German goalkeeper - the german's will burn you at the stake for not knowing of him.

Very good shotstopper but tripe at coming for crosses - he's about 27 I think

Target Man SSK wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Target Man SSK wrote:Whos Hildebrand?

Don't laugh at me, enlighten me!

Get ready for the wrath of Otto.