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by Cesc Soler Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:30 pm

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Marseille vs. Porto - 24/10

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by Fey Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:32 pm

One down seven to go Cesc <Ale>

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by Dwarf Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:35 pm

Hardest game first for Liverpool, they win, they walk it, if they don't this'll be a tricky little group.

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by DD Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:54 pm

Dwarf wrote:Hardest game first for Liverpool, they win, they walk it, if they don't this'll be a tricky little group.

In this game Rafa will take anything except a loss. So defend first then keep Torres as lone striker with Kuyt/Crouch to link up/knock down depending on his mood.

Just like last year they had their first game away to PSV (first game away to toughest oponent then as well), Rafa gladly settled with a draw. A loss would be starting the group on the wrong foot.

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by fcb Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:56 pm

DD wrote:

Dwarf wrote:Hardest game first for Liverpool, they win, they walk it, if they don't this'll be a tricky little group.

Rafa will take anything except a loss. So defend first then keep Torres as lone striker with Kuyt/Crouch to link up/knock down depending on his mood.

Arbeloa at left-back to keep an eye on Quaresma when he's on that side. Probably Mascherano for the away leg (and Sissoko for the home leg) to man-mark and double up with the fullback on whichever side the ball is.

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by DD Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:57 pm

kas wrote:

DD wrote:

Dwarf wrote:Hardest game first for Liverpool, they win, they walk it, if they don't this'll be a tricky little group.

Rafa will take anything except a loss. So defend first then keep Torres as lone striker with Kuyt/Crouch to link up/knock down depending on his mood.

Arbeloa at left-back to keep an eye on Quaresma when he's on that side. Probably Mascherano for the away leg (and Sissoko for the home leg) to man-mark and double up with the fullback on whichever side the ball is.

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by Guest Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:53 pm

It's not the easiest group in the world, but I'm sure we'll go through - Rafa is an absolute genius in Europe. Ale

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by Parks lives Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:22 pm

Crouching Tiger wrote:It's not the easiest group in the world,

It's in the top 3.

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by Guest Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:24 pm

Parks lives wrote:

Crouching Tiger wrote:It's not the easiest group in the world,

It's in the top 3.

I know, I just wanted to make it sound more impressive when we win it, which we will.

Ale

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by Rez Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:36 pm

Crouching arent you a bit nervous that your star striker is inexperienced at this level and wont be ready for at least a year. So it appears your problems from last years final havent been resolved as you bought an expensive striker that has never scored in the CL; even inexperienced players like Nani have more goals than him. Wink

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by Guest Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:42 pm

Rez wrote:Crouching

Yes?

Rez wrote:arent you a bit nervous that your star striker is inexperienced at this level and wont be ready for at least a year.

Torres is like a god among men. One Torres touch can pick apart the best of defences. El Red Nino we call him, a true redblood. Even the queen of the redbloods, nutwang, knows of his superiority to Tevez

Rez wrote:So it appears your problems from last years final havent been resolved as you bought an expensive striker that has never scored in the CL; even inexperienced players like Nani have more goals than him.

Reaching a champions league final, for me, isn't a problem

Biggrin

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by Protheus Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:54 pm

kas wrote:Arbeloa at left-back to keep an eye on Quaresma when he's on that side. Probably Mascherano for the away leg (and Sissoko for the home leg) to man-mark and double up with the fullback on whichever side the ball is.

Quaresma is not a static player he switches wings and , hey, you can always put 5 players man-marking him and leave the other Porto players alone. I wouldn´t mind. Razz

We need to win this first game. bounce

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by Guest Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:05 am

I'd be very happy with a draw in that game as it's definitely our toughest tie in the group. Like DD said, we'll probably play for a draw and it'll be very hard to break us down.

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by Luis Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:05 am

CT you were Saints, Nutters and Rafa all rolled into one there, impressive

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by The Bulk Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:15 am

I've heard that the Stade Velodrome has a brilliant atmosphere. Architecturally, it's a beautifully shaped stadium too.

Any Pool fans travelling abroad for a game should check out the price of flights to Marseille.

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by COTR Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:42 am

Crouching Tiger wrote:

Rez wrote:So it appears your problems from last years final havent been resolved as you bought an expensive striker that has never scored in the CL; even inexperienced players like Nani have more goals than him.

Reaching a champions league final, for me, isn't a problem

We were told torres would take time to adapt to the premiership

WRONG

We were told he was weak and would be easily brushed off the ball

WRONG

We were told he goes missing and is lazy

WRONG

Torres >>>>>>>>>>> ALL <Ale>

quite happy with the group. it'll be interesting to see the sprinter back at anfield. he'll be a man on a mission in those games

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by fcb Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:51 am

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We were told he goes missing and is lazy

WRONG

One month into his first season at a new club won't show that up. Of course now he's working hard and trying to impress. Wait till things maybe start going wrong for him, or he has a bit of a dry patch, or he has to play 3 games in 3 days in December getting the $h!t kicked out of him by Wigan, then you'll see this.

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by Guest Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:53 am

COTR wrote:

We were told torres would take time to adapt to the premiership

WRONG

We were told he was weak and would be easily brushed off the ball

WRONG

We were told he goes missing and is lazy

WRONG

Torres >>>>>>>>>>> ALL

Forza Torres! <Ale>

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by COTR Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:55 am

kas wrote:

COTR wrote:

We were told he goes missing and is lazy

WRONG

One month into his first season at a new club won't show that up. Of course now he's working hard and trying to impress. Wait till things maybe start going wrong for him, or he has a bit of a dry patch, or he has to play 3 games in 3 days in December getting the $h!t kicked out of him by Wigan, then you'll see this.

doubt it kas Laughing

he was the idol at atletico so could do what he wanted... plus it probably didn't help that he was often in a losing team and recieving poor service

for us and with rafa at the sidelines shouting at him it will never happen What a Face

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by Lard Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:08 am

Crouching Tiger wrote:

COTR wrote:

We were told torres would take time to adapt to the premiership

WRONG

We were told he was weak and would be easily brushed off the ball

WRONG

We were told he goes missing and is lazy

WRONG

Torres >>>>>>>>>>> ALL

Forza Torres!

Sure know how to overate players at Liverpool. Crouch the best in the world...you get a decent striker oh lets sell crouch
momo one of the best midfielders in the world
Torres a goodish start, wow he is on course to be a super legend Laugh

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by Guest Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:11 am

L.r.d wrote:
momo one of the best midfielders in the world
Torres a goodish start, he is on course to be a super legend

wow, I always thought you weren't that keen on Liverpool, but it figures you hold us in high esteem. Momo isn't one of the best midfielders in the worldm but he's top 15 in the Premiership and potentially one of Europes finest.

Torres is indeed a super legend. Forza Torres (>>>> Tevez)

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by fcb Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:14 am

Crouching Tiger wrote:

L.r.d wrote:
momo one of the best midfielders in the world
Torres a goodish start, he is on course to be a super legend

wow, I always thought you weren't that keen on Liverpool, but it figures you hold us in high esteem. Momo isn't one of the best midfielders in the worldm but he's top 15 in the Premiership and potentially one of Europes finest.

Torres is indeed a super legend. Forza Torres (>>>> Tevez)

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by Guest Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:15 am

He eats Barcelona for breakfast.

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by Lard Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:16 am

Crouching Tiger wrote:

L.r.d wrote:
momo one of the best midfielders in the world
Torres a goodish start, he is on course to be a super legend

wow, I always thought you weren't that keen on Liverpool, but it figures you hold us in high esteem. Momo isn't one of the best midfielders in the worldm but he's top 15 in the Premiership and potentially one of Europes finest.

Torres is indeed a super legend. Forza Torres (>>>> Tevez)

A reserve at Valencia, if he went back now he would be a reserve again. Now basically a reserve at Liverpool. Wouldn't get 10 mill for him. Cannot pass to save his life. Very limited ability. But sure Liverpool fan logic = the new Arsenal logic if he plays for you hes one of the best if not the best in his position Smile

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by fcb Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:17 am

He does...but based on that one game his profile has elevated so much it's unreal. Many posters have said this many times on the board before - Sissoko is perfect to destroy teams like Barcelona, but in reality he's not all that great. It's all about the matchups, to quote Teamspirit.

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by COTR Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:19 am

L.r.d wrote:

Crouching Tiger wrote:

L.r.d wrote:
momo one of the best midfielders in the world
Torres a goodish start, he is on course to be a super legend

wow, I always thought you weren't that keen on Liverpool, but it figures you hold us in high esteem. Momo isn't one of the best midfielders in the worldm but he's top 15 in the Premiership and potentially one of Europes finest.

Torres is indeed a super legend. Forza Torres (>>>> Tevez)

A reserve at Valencia, if he went back now he would be a reserve again. Now basically a reserve at Liverpool. Wouldn't get 10 mill for him. Cannot pass to save his life. Very limited ability. But sure Liverpool fan logic = the new Arsenal logic if he plays for you hes one of the best if not the best in his position

a reserve behind gerrard, alonso and mascherano

A bit different to your average club situation isn't it lrd Biggrin

Even when Momo picks up MOTM awards people STILL have a go at him. he can't win Biggrin

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by Parks lives Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:20 am

Potentially one of the Europe's finest? Laughing

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by Guest Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:20 am

@ LRD, he doesn't suit Spanish football, but he's perfect for breaking up play in the premiership.

@ Kas, no, he isn't technically very good. His energy, pace and work rate are all fantastic though. He cant pass, but he can tackle, and he's becoming much more confident with the ball at his feet (dribbling). I think he's one of the best play breakers around.

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by fcb Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:22 am

Crouching Tiger wrote:@ Kas, no, he isn't technically very good. His energy, pace and work rate are all fantastic though. He cant pass, but he can tackle, and he's becoming much more confident with the ball at his feet (dribbling). I think he's one of the best play breakers around.

And you think running around at a high speed for 90 mins, only occasionally passing the ball well but doing a great job of destroying play, is enough to warrant being called one of the top 15 midfielders in the Premiership?

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by COTR Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:22 am

kas wrote:He does...but based on that one game his profile has elevated so much it's unreal. Many posters have said this many times on the board before - Sissoko is perfect to destroy teams like Barcelona, but in reality he's not all that great. It's all about the matchups, to quote Teamspirit.

Wrong actually

he built his reputuation long before those games and has gobbled up the chelsea midfield made a laughing stock of scholes and co on numerous occasins. barca were just the latest in a long line of conquests cyclops

too much focus is placed on what he can't do at the expense of what he actually does do. he was out of fomr at the end of last season after the eye and knee injuries but he is playing like a man possessed at the minute

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