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    Post by fcb Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:58 am

    I don't think it's that bad...look around Europe and very few national teams are in a moment where even their first 11, let alone squad, is in good shape. Sometimes it's down to odd selections by the manager, other times due to a lack of quality.

    Plus Capello is the ideal manager to get a "shit" team to 1-0 their way to over-achievement, esp. in a knockout tournament.
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    Post by COTR Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:05 pm

    Hlebagone wrote:It really doesnt look very good. Compare it to the Euro 2000 squad 10 or so years ago, and there's really no comparison. And we did shit in that tournament.

    England squad for Euro 2000:

    Goalkeepers: David Seaman (Arsenal), Nigel Martyn (Leeds United), Richard Wright (Ipswich Town), David James (Aston Villa)

    Defenders: Tony Adams (Arsenal), Sol Campbell (Tottenham Hotspur), Rio Ferdinand (West Ham United), Martin Keown (Arsenal), Gareth Southgate (Aston Villa), Gary Neville (Manchester United), Phil Neville (Manchester United)

    Midfielders: David Beckham (Manchester United), Paul Ince (Middlesbrough), Steve McManaman (Real Madrid, Spain), Kieron Dyer (Newcastle United), Jamie Redknapp (Liverpool), Paul Scholes (Manchester United), Jason Wilcox (Leeds United), Dennis Wise (Chelsea), Ray Parlour (Arsenal), Nick Barmby (Everton), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool)

    Forwards: Alan Shearer (Newcastle United), Emile Heskey (Liverpool), Robbie Fowler (Liverpool), Michael Owen (Liverpool), Kevin Phillips (Sunderland), Andy Cole (Manchester United)

    Capello just needs a few things to go his way and it should be a competitive squad

    - Joe Cole returning to form
    - Hargreaves coming back from his 2 year holiday
    - Woodgate to somehow recover some form
    - Lennon to continue his form under Arry and force his way in
    - One of the keepers to actually resemble a goalkeeper
    - Another striker to appear from somewhere (or maybe Fergie can do something with Owen)
    - Downing and Walcott to get long term injuries just before the tournament

    And the crucial factor that will decide if England win the whole thing

    - Wilshere and Bannan to become the superstars they are destined to be
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    Post by Six Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:08 pm

    This is the stupidest timing for a friendly ever. Ale










    (except that it happens every fucking season)
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    Post by fcb Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:09 pm

    Looking again at that Euro 2000 squad above, I'm just wondering...how many players would Pierre mark in bold? Laughing


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    Post by Six Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:11 pm

    I'm having trouble remembering who Jason Wilcox was. Surely that wasn't the final squad?
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    Post by COTR Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:13 pm

    Is Kieron Dyer still alive ?
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    Post by Six Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:18 pm

    1 GK David Seaman
    2 DF Gary Neville
    3 DF Phil Neville
    4 DF Sol Campbell
    5 DF Tony Adams
    6 DF Martin Keown
    7 MF David Beckham
    8 MF Paul Scholes
    9 FW Alan Shearer (c)
    10 FW Michael Owen
    11 MF Steve McManaman
    12 DF Gareth Southgate
    13 GK Nigel Martyn
    14 MF Paul Ince
    15 DF Gareth Barry
    16 MF Steven Gerrard
    17 MF Dennis Wise
    18 MF Nick Barmby
    19 FW Emile Heskey
    20 FW Kevin Phillips
    21 FW Robbie Fowler
    22 GK Richard Wright


    Our latest squad is better imo. You have to remember in 2000 a lot of these players were past their best - Adams, Keown, Seaman, Ince, Shearer, Fowler, Barmby, Mcmanaman, Wise. Gerrard and Barry were kids. Phil Neville was Phil Neville.
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    Post by Hlebagone Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:23 pm

    Maybe. The Euro 2000 squad is a pretty poort one to be honest. Just chose it because it was 10 years ago.

    I think though, even if Seaman was past his best, he was better than any current keeper we have, as was Martin.
    The same could be said for Shearer and with Hargreaves injured, we sorely miss any player like Ince. Fowler/Phillips are no weaker than the strikers there and McManaman was still "playing" for Real Madrid.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:26 pm

    Six wrote:1 GK David Seaman
    2 DF Gary Neville
    3 DF Phil Neville
    4 DF Sol Campbell
    5 DF Tony Adams
    6 DF Martin Keown
    7 MF David Beckham
    8 MF Paul Scholes
    9 FW Alan Shearer (c)
    10 FW Michael Owen
    11 MF Steve McManaman
    12 DF Gareth Southgate
    13 GK Nigel Martyn
    14 MF Paul Ince
    15 DF Gareth Barry
    16 MF Steven Gerrard
    17 MF Dennis Wise Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh
    18 MF Nick Barmby
    19 FW Emile Heskey
    20 FW Kevin Phillips
    21 FW Robbie Fowler
    22 GK Richard Wright



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    Post by Kimbo Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:56 pm

    Since when were Beckham and Campbell worth head slaps?
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:03 pm

    Kimbo wrote:Since when were Beckham and Campbell worth head slaps?

    Beckham has never performed at a major tournament and is a wide man without pace.

    Campbell couldn't trap a bag of cement and is a self pitying c**t who is liable to have a nervous breakdown when things aren't going his way.

    His main skill was taking the ball off opponents and then giving it straight back to them.
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    Post by Kimbo Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:06 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:Since when were Beckham and Campbell worth head slaps?

    Beckham has never performed at a major tournament and is a wide man without pace.

    Campbell couldn't trap a bag of cement and is a self pitying c**t who is liable to have a nervous breakdown when things aren't going his way.

    His main skill was taking the ball off opponents and then giving it straight back to them.

    You're not telling me Beckham was a poor player in 2000 are you?

    You're clearly a purist, Campbell was a beast of a defender, would you prefer a David Rozehnal? Someone that is a pussy but can pass a bit?

    Who would you have picked ahead of those two?
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:09 pm

    Kimbo wrote:



    You're clearly a purist, Campbell was a beast of a defender, would you prefer a David Rozehnal?


    I'd prefer a Jim or a Ronnie Rozehnal to that queen.

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