England Squad

Squad has been named.

Goalkeepers: Ben Foster (Manchester United), Robert Green (West Ham United), Paul Robinson (Blackburn Rovers)

Defenders: Wayne Bridge (Manchester City), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Joleon Lescott (Everton), John Terry (Chelsea), Matthew Upson (West Ham United)

Midfielders: Gareth Barry (Manchester City), David Beckham (LA Galaxy), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Aston Villa), Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Shaun Wright-Phillips (Manchester City), Ashley Young (Aston Villa)

Forwards: Carlton Cole (West Ham United), Jermain Defoe(Tottenham Hotspur), Emile Heskey (Aston Villa), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United)

Is Ben Foster any good?

no

is there anyone better who missed out?

probably not

Kirkland

Good to see Milner get a go.

Hopefully Young gets a start - has a good chance, as he's the only real LW..

Otherwise, no surprises. Bit pointless doing this before the season starts and we see how players' form is.

Khadrim wrote:Squad has been named.

Goalkeepers: Ben Foster (Manchester United), Robert Green (West Ham United), Paul Robinson (Blackburn Rovers)

Defenders: Wayne Bridge (Manchester City), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Joleon Lescott (Everton), John Terry (Chelsea), Matthew Upson (West Ham United)

Midfielders: Gareth Barry (Manchester City), David Beckham (LA Galaxy), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Aston Villa), Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Shaun Wright-Phillips (Manchester City), Ashley Young (Aston Villa)

Forwards: Carlton Cole (West Ham United), Jermain Defoe(Tottenham Hotspur), Emile Heskey (Aston Villa), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United)

Patrick Barclay has put £250.00 on england to win the world cup at 9/1

He seems to suggest that the reason we haven't won a WC in 43 years is because of the weather

Who would you play Left back? With all these omissions of the players in bold who would you replace them with?

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Khadrim wrote:Squad has been named.

Goalkeepers: Ben Foster (Manchester United), Robert Green (West Ham United), Paul Robinson (Blackburn Rovers)

Defenders: Wayne Bridge (Manchester City), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Joleon Lescott (Everton), John Terry (Chelsea), Matthew Upson (West Ham United)

Midfielders: Gareth Barry (Manchester City), David Beckham (LA Galaxy), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Aston Villa), Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Shaun Wright-Phillips (Manchester City), Ashley Young (Aston Villa)

Forwards: Carlton Cole (West Ham United), Jermain Defoe(Tottenham Hotspur), Emile Heskey (Aston Villa), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United)

Patrick Barclay has put £250.00 on england to win the world cup at 9/1

He seems to suggest that the reason we haven't won a WC in 43 years is because of the weather

You should put your suggested players in there Pierre and we can really bring the 's out

Ray Parlour wrote:Who would you play Left back? With all these omissions of the players in bold who would you replace them with?

There isn't anyone better.

Same goes for Carrick and Barry who aren't up to it either.

Its not a criticism of capello for picking them its my response to the absolutely abysmal standard of coaching in this country that means this shit is the best we've got.

Ray Parlour wrote:Who would you play Left back? With all these omissions of the players in bold who would you replace them with?

Baines.

What aspect is he better than Cashley at? Crossing and final ball I can think of. It's not really a major concern in the England team. There are more pressing areas which need addressing.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Khadrim wrote:Squad has been named.

Goalkeepers: Ben Foster (Manchester United), Robert Green (West Ham United), Paul Robinson (Blackburn Rovers)

Defenders: Wayne Bridge (Manchester City), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Joleon Lescott (Everton), John Terry (Chelsea), Matthew Upson (West Ham United)

Midfielders: Gareth Barry (Manchester City), David Beckham (LA Galaxy), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Aston Villa), Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Shaun Wright-Phillips (Manchester City), Ashley Young (Aston Villa)

Forwards: Carlton Cole (West Ham United), Jermain Defoe(Tottenham Hotspur), Emile Heskey (Aston Villa), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United)

Patrick Barclay has put £250.00 on england to win the world cup at 9/1

He seems to suggest that the reason we haven't won a WC in 43 years is because of the weather

You've basically highlighted all the white players, except Rooney and Gerrard

Just noticed that. One you go black you never go back

debaser wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Khadrim wrote:Squad has been named.

Goalkeepers: Ben Foster (Manchester United), Robert Green (West Ham United), Paul Robinson (Blackburn Rovers)

Defenders: Wayne Bridge (Manchester City), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Joleon Lescott (Everton), John Terry (Chelsea), Matthew Upson (West Ham United)

Midfielders: Gareth Barry (Manchester City), David Beckham (LA Galaxy), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Aston Villa), Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Shaun Wright-Phillips (Manchester City), Ashley Young (Aston Villa)

Forwards: Carlton Cole (West Ham United), Jermain Defoe(Tottenham Hotspur), Emile Heskey (Aston Villa), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United)

Patrick Barclay has put £250.00 on england to win the world cup at 9/1

He seems to suggest that the reason we haven't won a WC in 43 years is because of the weather

You've basically highlighted all the white players, except Rooney and Gerrard

Rooney and Gerrard are very good.

If a fan highlighted all the black players bar two you wouldn't bat an eyelid.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

debaser wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Khadrim wrote:Squad has been named.

Goalkeepers: Ben Foster (Manchester United), Robert Green (West Ham United), Paul Robinson (Blackburn Rovers)

Defenders: Wayne Bridge (Manchester City), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Joleon Lescott (Everton), John Terry (Chelsea), Matthew Upson (West Ham United)

Midfielders: Gareth Barry (Manchester City), David Beckham (LA Galaxy), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Aston Villa), Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Shaun Wright-Phillips (Manchester City), Ashley Young (Aston Villa)

Forwards: Carlton Cole (West Ham United), Jermain Defoe(Tottenham Hotspur), Emile Heskey (Aston Villa), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United)

Patrick Barclay has put £250.00 on england to win the world cup at 9/1

He seems to suggest that the reason we haven't won a WC in 43 years is because of the weather

You've basically highlighted all the white players, except Rooney and Gerrard

Rooney and Gerrard are very good.

If a fan highlighted all the black players bar two you wouldn't bat an eyelid.

Hey, I can make stupid assumptions too: if Barry and Carrick were black, you'd think they were awesome

Why haven't you highlighted Wright-Phillips

Khadrim wrote:

Ray Parlour wrote:Who would you play Left back? With all these omissions of the players in bold who would you replace them with?

Baines.

are you drunk? Baines wouldn't even get into the Aston Villa or Burnley first team. He is not an international player. Cole is much better for England than he is for Chelsea. He's made a few naughty mistakes but he's saved our arse on more than a merry occasion too. His mobile phone is a bit smelly, I'll give you that.

Alberto Aqglenani wrote:

Khadrim wrote:

Ray Parlour wrote:Who would you play Left back? With all these omissions of the players in bold who would you replace them with?

Baines.

are you drunk? Baines wouldn't even get into the Aston Villa or Burnley first team. He is not an international player. Cole is much better for England than he is for Chelsea. He's made a few naughty mistakes but he's saved our arse on more than a merry occasion too. His mobile phone is a bit smelly, I'll give you that.

Have you seen Baines play? He was excellent towards the end of the season. Much better than Bridge for a start. Cole isn't much better for England than he is for Chelsea it is the other way round. He makes as many mistakes as John "uncharacteristic mistake" Terry does. And he is rubbish going forward when he plays for England

Khadrim wrote:Kirkland

if he could stay fit he'd be my choice for number 1. But he can't.

Khadrim wrote:

Alberto Aqglenani wrote:

Khadrim wrote:

Ray Parlour wrote:Who would you play Left back? With all these omissions of the players in bold who would you replace them with?

Baines.

are you drunk? Baines wouldn't even get into the Aston Villa or Burnley first team. He is not an international player. Cole is much better for England than he is for Chelsea. He's made a few naughty mistakes but he's saved our arse on more than a merry occasion too. His mobile phone is a bit smelly, I'll give you that.

Have you seen Baines play? He was excellent towards the end of the season. Much better than Bridge for a start. Cole isn't much better for England than he is for Chelsea it is the other way round. He makes as many mistakes as John "uncharacteristic mistake" Terry does. And he is rubbish going forward when he plays for England

You are not right. I don't like Ashley Cole, and I'd be the first to jump on a bandwagon if there was anybody better, but Leighton Baines would not be an improvment. I don't like Bridge much either if push came to shove I'd play Lescott there.

He is not right, but he is not wrong either, right?

Khadrim wrote: Ben Foster
James Milner
Theo Walcott
Emile Heskey

These players make babies cry, i hope they don't play. Milner needs to get back in the U21s where he belongs!

He's finally graduated

Milner played well today, even pulled out a few lil tricks. I think he's improving - looks confident and more willing to take a shot

debaser wrote:He's finally graduated

Milner played well today, even pulled out a few lil tricks. I think he's improving - looks confident and more willing to take a shot

Best thing Milner did was getting from Newcastle I hope he keeps on growing.

Highlighting left backs and midfield when we got the greats of Carlton Cole, Jermaine Defoe, Heskey in attack ?

Surely Crouch is better than Defoe in what they bring to the table ?
If assuming you are taking CC and Heskey as pure hard working target men.

is this the best england has?

who else is not there besides joe cole?

debaser wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

debaser wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Khadrim wrote:Squad has been named.

Goalkeepers: Ben Foster (Manchester United), Robert Green (West Ham United), Paul Robinson (Blackburn Rovers)

Defenders: Wayne Bridge (Manchester City), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Joleon Lescott (Everton), John Terry (Chelsea), Matthew Upson (West Ham United)

Midfielders: Gareth Barry (Manchester City), David Beckham (LA Galaxy), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Aston Villa), Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Shaun Wright-Phillips (Manchester City), Ashley Young (Aston Villa)

Forwards: Carlton Cole (West Ham United), Jermain Defoe(Tottenham Hotspur), Emile Heskey (Aston Villa), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United)

Patrick Barclay has put £250.00 on england to win the world cup at 9/1

He seems to suggest that the reason we haven't won a WC in 43 years is because of the weather

You've basically highlighted all the white players, except Rooney and Gerrard

Rooney and Gerrard are very good.

If a fan highlighted all the black players bar two you wouldn't bat an eyelid.

Hey, I can make stupid assumptions too: if Barry and Carrick were black, you'd think they were awesome

If Barry and Carrick were black they would be able to provide some midfield defense.

Walcott, Milner & SWP ahead of Lennon is an absolute fucking Joke.

It really doesnt look very good. Compare it to the Euro 2000 squad 10 or so years ago, and there's really no comparison. And we did shit in that tournament.

England squad for Euro 2000:

Goalkeepers: David Seaman (Arsenal), Nigel Martyn (Leeds United), Richard Wright (Ipswich Town), David James (Aston Villa)

Defenders: Tony Adams (Arsenal), Sol Campbell (Tottenham Hotspur), Rio Ferdinand (West Ham United), Martin Keown (Arsenal), Gareth Southgate (Aston Villa), Gary Neville (Manchester United), Phil Neville (Manchester United)

Midfielders: David Beckham (Manchester United), Paul Ince (Middlesbrough), Steve McManaman (Real Madrid, Spain), Kieron Dyer (Newcastle United), Jamie Redknapp (Liverpool), Paul Scholes (Manchester United), Jason Wilcox (Leeds United), Dennis Wise (Chelsea), Ray Parlour (Arsenal), Nick Barmby (Everton), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool)

Forwards: Alan Shearer (Newcastle United), Emile Heskey (Liverpool), Robbie Fowler (Liverpool), Michael Owen (Liverpool), Kevin Phillips (Sunderland), Andy Cole (Manchester United)