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Retro MBM: Holland 2-1 Argentina (World Cup 1998)
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Oranje Thread
Allez les rouges- Number of posts : 8098
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What an emabarssing result for the Dutchies
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New Dutch shirts! Even worse then the Germans imo.
Meanwhile,
Van Marwijk volgt Jordy Clasie op de voet
De goede prestaties van Jordy Clasie bij Feyenoord zijn ook bondscoach Bert van Marwijk niet ontgaan. De keuzeheer van Oranje laat in
weten gecharmeerd te zijn van de kleine talentvolle middenvelder van de Rotterdammers. Hij zag hem o.a. aan het werk in de klassieker tegen Ajax, waarin hij zijn talent etaleerde met een mooie steekpass. 'Die enepass verraadde klasse. Ik volg intensief een aantal spelers net onder de zogenaamde vaste kern van het Nederlands elftal.
Ik móét wel, want vanwege blessures en gebrek aan wedstrijdritme bij een aantal internationals dien ik flexibel te zijn zo kort voor het EK. Ik heb een lijstje gemaakt met daarop een stuk of vijftien namen van spelers die voor ons interessant zouden kunnen zijn. Ik kan wel verklappen dat Jordy Clasie op die lijst staat', aldus Van Marwijk.
He is getting closer!
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whats going on with holland, all there global superstars in DECLINE
vanbommel
snjeider
dejong
robben
only van persie delivers
thats a complete opposite situation compared to the 2009/10 season, where all of them played the football of there life
vanbommel
snjeider
dejong
robben
only van persie delivers
thats a complete opposite situation compared to the 2009/10 season, where all of them played the football of there life
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The German away kit is anything but bad. It's a retro kit inspired by the 1972 kit, worn by the best German NT of all times.
Back to green.
Those Dutch Nike kits look like Barca training kits.
Back to green.
Those Dutch Nike kits look like Barca training kits.
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Hence the complete team should be rebuild around RVP. But that won't happen!
I didnt think in 2010 we would do a Italy/France/Holland 2002, partly because of the younger age, and less players like Kluivert, Davids, Seedorf, Reiziger etc this time around. But it appears to happen again. Dutch arrogance, lack of hunger and a talentgap with the next generation.
Look at Midget, superstar status isnt good for him. Even though he is like Schweinie, and actually only had one good season(09-10) and he will never have a season like that again.
Holland has an insanely talented generation coming up, but to go from one to the next generation always delivers trouble. Partly to blame to a rather small population, cause thats what I like about Brazil. One failed tournament, and everyone could be out. Holland cant do that.
Though van Marwijk should have given more youngsters a chance in the qualifiers.
I didnt think in 2010 we would do a Italy/France/Holland 2002, partly because of the younger age, and less players like Kluivert, Davids, Seedorf, Reiziger etc this time around. But it appears to happen again. Dutch arrogance, lack of hunger and a talentgap with the next generation.
Look at Midget, superstar status isnt good for him. Even though he is like Schweinie, and actually only had one good season(09-10) and he will never have a season like that again.
Holland has an insanely talented generation coming up, but to go from one to the next generation always delivers trouble. Partly to blame to a rather small population, cause thats what I like about Brazil. One failed tournament, and everyone could be out. Holland cant do that.
Though van Marwijk should have given more youngsters a chance in the qualifiers.
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Bastian only had/is going to have "one good season"? Do you want to fucking BET?!?!?!?
Fey- Number of posts : 35349
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Oohhhh!! It's on!
But by whom's standards? You will say he is having a good season as long as he wears a German shirt. I will judge him on the other 23 months!?
And what are we betting?
But by whom's standards? You will say he is having a good season as long as he wears a German shirt. I will judge him on the other 23 months!?
And what are we betting?
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we still have özil
bastian will always be critical eyed, because his "important" game is no eye catcher
bastian will always be critical eyed, because his "important" game is no eye catcher
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Bastian actually had a great season in 2011/12 until his injury. And surprisingly enough, it went downhill for Bayern once he was injured.
In the NT, he has been one of the most consistent performers for years. Hopefully, he will be fit in time, without a doubt Germany's most important player.
In the NT, he has been one of the most consistent performers for years. Hopefully, he will be fit in time, without a doubt Germany's most important player.
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Kroos wrote:we still have özil
bastian will always be critical eyed, because his "important" game is no eye catcher
It is eye-catching for me. You on the other hand, Kroßchen, are only excited by even blonder Filigrantechniker of about twelve years old who are rather prettier than Bastian. Then, to be fair, you get very excited. Each to his own.
I dunno Fey, I thought he was having a pretty good first half of the season for instance. When he wasn't injured and Bayern were hactually good. Let someone like Bernd decide maybe? Usual avatar nonsense?
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Fey wrote:Look at Midget, superstar status isnt good for him. Even though he is like Schweinie, and actually only had one good season(09-10) and he will never have a season like that again.
To be fair to him, I think his performances in his first season at Real were on par with the "triplete" season.
It's just that less epic was built around them.
And now he looks quite washed out, but can you really put all the blame to him, the whole team fell apart and got dismantled, and he's got five different coaches with different training methods and tactics in the last 24 months.
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Allez les rouges wrote:Kroos wrote:we still have özil
bastian will always be critical eyed, because his "important" game is no eye catcher
It is eye-catching for me. You on the other hand, Kroßchen, are only excited by even blonder Filigrantechniker of about twelve years old who are rather prettier than Bastian. Then, to be fair, you get very excited. Each to his own.
I dunno Fey, I thought he was having a pretty good first half of the season for instance. When he wasn't injured and Bayern were hactually good. Let someone like Bernd decide maybe? Usual avatar nonsense?
Bernd is a biased c**t! We can't trust him. Besides, from when is the bet? He missed already too many games this season to rival his 09-10 season. And till when do we let the bet run? End of his career?
Betting avatars is lame. I was thinking about a few other things, If I win, you will buy me a luxury weekend in the Ritz in Berlin for both you and me. That includes the drinks in the clubs that we will visit! Or you handle over your bag of gold you have around your neck to me!
If you win, I will buy you tickets for a kraut game, and will buy myself a kraut shirt and will participate in all cringing kraut chants that one can hear during a game that involves die Mannschaft.
Think about it
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Allez les rouges wrote:Kroos wrote:we still have özil
bastian will always be critical eyed, because his "important" game is no eye catcher
It is eye-catching for me. You on the other hand, Kroßchen, are only excited by even blonder Filigrantechniker of about twelve years old who are rather prettier than Bastian. Then, to be fair, you get very excited. Each to his own.
I dunno Fey, I thought he was having a pretty good first half of the season for instance. When he wasn't injured and Bayern were hactually good. Let someone like Bernd decide maybe? Usual avatar nonsense?
not for me
his game is rather pragmatic than spectacular, only exception was his argentina game
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Kroß: He's a deep=lying central midfielder, I'm not entirely sure what you're expecting or who qualifies in your eyes as spectacular...?
Feylein: Het is EEN DEAL!!!!!
(only losing sounds even more entertaining than winning
)
Fey wrote:Allez les rouges wrote:Kroos wrote:we still have özil
bastian will always be critical eyed, because his "important" game is no eye catcher
It is eye-catching for me. You on the other hand, Kroßchen, are only excited by even blonder Filigrantechniker of about twelve years old who are rather prettier than Bastian. Then, to be fair, you get very excited. Each to his own.
I dunno Fey, I thought he was having a pretty good first half of the season for instance. When he wasn't injured and Bayern were hactually good. Let someone like Bernd decide maybe? Usual avatar nonsense?
Bernd is a biased c**t! We can't trust him. Besides, from when is the bet? He missed already too many games this season to rival his 09-10 season. And till when do we let the bet run? End of his career?
Betting avatars is lame. I was thinking about a few other things, If I win, you will buy me a luxury weekend in the Ritz in Berlin for both you and me. That includes the drinks in the clubs that we will visit! Or you handle over your bag of gold you have around your neck to me!
If you win, I will buy you tickets for a kraut game, and will buy myself a kraut shirt and will participate in all cringing kraut chants that one can hear during a game that involves die Mannschaft.
Think about it
Feylein: Het is EEN DEAL!!!!!
(only losing sounds even more entertaining than winning
)
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Mooi!
Believe me though, you want to win. Cause I might appear to be an extremely friendly guy on this forum, im a bit of a c**t in real life. A weekend with me will drive you mad. I also want to go to the Berlin zoo, I heard its awesome.
Believe me though, you want to win. Cause I might appear to be an extremely friendly guy on this forum, im a bit of a c**t in real life. A weekend with me will drive you mad. I also want to go to the Berlin zoo, I heard its awesome.
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Ha. Let's see. I can warn you that the same might be said regarding a weekend with me 
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We zullen zien
Now, the selection for the England game (ffs always against them) has been announced.
Keepers: Stekelenburg (Roma), Vorm (Swansea), Krul (Newcastle).
Verdedigers: Anita (Ajax), Pieters (PSV), Heitinga (Everton), Vlaar (Feyenoord), Mathijsen (Málaga), Boulahrouz (VfB Stuttgart), Bruma (HSV).
Middenvelders: Van Bommel (AC Milan), Nigel de Jong (Man.City), Strootman (PSV), Van der Vaart (Tottenham), Sneijder (Inter), Schaars (Sporting), Emanuelson (Milan), Maher (AZ)
Aanvallers: Luuk de Jong (FC Twente),Kuijt (Liverpool) Van Persie (Arsenal),Lens (PSV), Wijnaldum (PSV), Huntelaar (Schalke 04), Narsingh (Heerenveen), John (FC Twente), Robben (Bayern München).
3 new players. Which are fine with me, Maher, Narsingh and John. BUT NO FUCKING CLASIE YOU c**t!
Needless to say he is in the U-21 team
Patrick van Aanholt (Vitesse), Leandro Bacuna (FC Groningen), Nacer Barazite (AS Monaco), Jerson Cabral (Feyenoord), Jordy Clasie (Feyenoord), Virgil van Dijk (FC Groningen), Lerin Duarte (Heracles Almelo), Lorenzo Ebecilio (Ajax), Leroy Fer (EX-Feyenoord), Marco van Ginkel (Vitesse), Jeffrey Gouweleeuw (sc Heerenveen), Maikel Kieftenbeld (FC Groningen), Kelvin Leerdam (Feyenoord), Nick Marsman (FC Twente), Bruno Martins Indi (Feyenoord), Miquel Nelom (Feyenoord), Bram Nuytinck (N.E.C.), Sergio Padt (AA Gent), Rajiv van la Parra (EX-Feyenoord), Ben Rienstra (Heracles Almelo), Marko Vejinovic (Heracles Almelo), Stefan de Vrij (Feyenoord), Género Zeefuik (N.E.C.), Jeroen Zoet (RKC Waalwijk).
Out of the 24, 8 have got their academy at Feyenoord
Now, the selection for the England game (ffs always against them) has been announced.
Keepers: Stekelenburg (Roma), Vorm (Swansea), Krul (Newcastle).
Verdedigers: Anita (Ajax), Pieters (PSV), Heitinga (Everton), Vlaar (Feyenoord), Mathijsen (Málaga), Boulahrouz (VfB Stuttgart), Bruma (HSV).
Middenvelders: Van Bommel (AC Milan), Nigel de Jong (Man.City), Strootman (PSV), Van der Vaart (Tottenham), Sneijder (Inter), Schaars (Sporting), Emanuelson (Milan), Maher (AZ)
Aanvallers: Luuk de Jong (FC Twente),Kuijt (Liverpool) Van Persie (Arsenal),Lens (PSV), Wijnaldum (PSV), Huntelaar (Schalke 04), Narsingh (Heerenveen), John (FC Twente), Robben (Bayern München).
3 new players. Which are fine with me, Maher, Narsingh and John. BUT NO FUCKING CLASIE YOU c**t!
Needless to say he is in the U-21 team
Patrick van Aanholt (Vitesse), Leandro Bacuna (FC Groningen), Nacer Barazite (AS Monaco), Jerson Cabral (Feyenoord), Jordy Clasie (Feyenoord), Virgil van Dijk (FC Groningen), Lerin Duarte (Heracles Almelo), Lorenzo Ebecilio (Ajax), Leroy Fer (EX-Feyenoord), Marco van Ginkel (Vitesse), Jeffrey Gouweleeuw (sc Heerenveen), Maikel Kieftenbeld (FC Groningen), Kelvin Leerdam (Feyenoord), Nick Marsman (FC Twente), Bruno Martins Indi (Feyenoord), Miquel Nelom (Feyenoord), Bram Nuytinck (N.E.C.), Sergio Padt (AA Gent), Rajiv van la Parra (EX-Feyenoord), Ben Rienstra (Heracles Almelo), Marko Vejinovic (Heracles Almelo), Stefan de Vrij (Feyenoord), Género Zeefuik (N.E.C.), Jeroen Zoet (RKC Waalwijk).
Out of the 24, 8 have got their academy at Feyenoord
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Maher didnt make it, the strong and pacey blacks did though 
Narsingh is allright I must say!
Keepers: Stekelenburg (Roma), Vorm (Swansea), Krul (Newcastle).
Verdedigers: Pieters (PSV), Heitinga (Everton), Vlaar (Feyenoord), Mathijsen (Málaga), Boulahrouz (VfB Stuttgart), Bruma (HSV).
Middenvelders: Van Bommel (AC Milan), Nigel de Jong (Man.City), Strootman (PSV), Van der Vaart (Tottenham), Sneijder (Inter), Schaars (Sporting), Emanuelson (Milan).
Aanvallers: Luuk de Jong (FC Twente),Kuijt (Liverpool) Van Persie (Arsenal), Wijnaldum (PSV), Huntelaar (Schalke 04), Narsingh (Heerenveen), John (FC Twente), Robben (Bayern München).
Not a single ajax player
Narsingh is allright I must say!Keepers: Stekelenburg (Roma), Vorm (Swansea), Krul (Newcastle).
Verdedigers: Pieters (PSV), Heitinga (Everton), Vlaar (Feyenoord), Mathijsen (Málaga), Boulahrouz (VfB Stuttgart), Bruma (HSV).
Middenvelders: Van Bommel (AC Milan), Nigel de Jong (Man.City), Strootman (PSV), Van der Vaart (Tottenham), Sneijder (Inter), Schaars (Sporting), Emanuelson (Milan).
Aanvallers: Luuk de Jong (FC Twente),Kuijt (Liverpool) Van Persie (Arsenal), Wijnaldum (PSV), Huntelaar (Schalke 04), Narsingh (Heerenveen), John (FC Twente), Robben (Bayern München).
Not a single ajax player
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Boulahrouz still plays????
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Boulahrouz is not that old, only 29. He is always injured I believe.
But I wouldnt have picked him. But van Marwijk is very conservative, it was him that didnt really believe in van Persie when he was with us and prefered the likes of Buffel and Lurling over him. 10 years later van Persie is his only chance to give him so glory. Funny how it sometimes goes.
But I wouldnt have picked him. But van Marwijk is very conservative, it was him that didnt really believe in van Persie when he was with us and prefered the likes of Buffel and Lurling over him. 10 years later van Persie is his only chance to give him so glory. Funny how it sometimes goes.
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The last time you won anything of note was with Van Marwijk.
That said, Van Marwijk is (too?) conservative. But his not a dickless coward like Advocaat, or a grade-A megalomaniac spiteful c**t like Van Basten. Let's pretend the Van Gaal era never happened. I really liked Rijkaard's Oranje though - let down by typical Ajax flops.
If Karl bruckner is still taking jobs, I'd like them to hire that man. Fucking tactical genius, starts the most optimal XI, not afraid to make timely subs (sometimes even unorthodox ones), gives youth a chance, and forms the best playing team based on what's available.
That said, Van Marwijk is (too?) conservative. But his not a dickless coward like Advocaat, or a grade-A megalomaniac spiteful c**t like Van Basten. Let's pretend the Van Gaal era never happened. I really liked Rijkaard's Oranje though - let down by typical Ajax flops.
If Karl bruckner is still taking jobs, I'd like them to hire that man. Fucking tactical genius, starts the most optimal XI, not afraid to make timely subs (sometimes even unorthodox ones), gives youth a chance, and forms the best playing team based on what's available.
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True, but it was not thanks to van Marwijk. Rikards Oranje was allright, though I think that generation is vastly overrated. Hardly anyone of those had the will to fight, bar Stam perhaps. These days it's different...but lack quality.
Right now, Holland lacks a lot of talent, like predicted a few years ago. And like I said, if the Fey-jugends fails the upcoming years, Holland can prepare itself for a lot of quite summers.
Right now, Holland lacks a lot of talent, like predicted a few years ago. And like I said, if the Fey-jugends fails the upcoming years, Holland can prepare itself for a lot of quite summers.
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Easy teamselection for BondsBert against the Brits :
Stekelenburg
Kuijt - Heitinga - Mathijssen - Emanuelson
Von Bommel - Strootman
Robben - Van Persie - Ola John
Huntelaar
Stekelenburg
Kuijt - Heitinga - Mathijssen - Emanuelson
Von Bommel - Strootman
Robben - Van Persie - Ola John
Huntelaar
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Kuyt at right-back? Been hearing this one for years but it's never happened. Would be amusing to see though.
Robin at 10? yeah....
Ah well, one day you'll get a manager in sympathy with your preferences I guess
Robin at 10? yeah....
Ah well, one day you'll get a manager in sympathy with your preferences I guess
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Mental that Jordy Brouwer from Gladbach never gets a chance. And what did Bruma do to deserve his call, Rekik from City is better. Same goes for Mathijssen, Vlaar and Pieters. They dont deserve it.
Considering it's a friendly I would have selected way more Eredivisie players. Hell, its the 3th best league in Europe atm according to the rankings. Not everything from abroad is better. But from the players Bert picked I agree with Axe, though swap Robben for Narsingh and Huntelaar for de Jong.
Way more interested in the u-21 lineup naturally, heard Clasie might not play but if he does:
-------------Zoet--------
De Vrij---Gouweleeuw---Martins Indi-----Nelom
-----Clasie-------------Fer(van Ginkel)
----------------Maher-------
---Vejinovic-----Bacuna------Duarte
Considering it's a friendly I would have selected way more Eredivisie players. Hell, its the 3th best league in Europe atm according to the rankings. Not everything from abroad is better. But from the players Bert picked I agree with Axe, though swap Robben for Narsingh and Huntelaar for de Jong.
Way more interested in the u-21 lineup naturally, heard Clasie might not play but if he does:
-------------Zoet--------
De Vrij---Gouweleeuw---Martins Indi-----Nelom
-----Clasie-------------Fer(van Ginkel)
----------------Maher-------
---Vejinovic-----Bacuna------Duarte
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OMFG...you can watch HOLLAND LIVE...
https://www.youtube.com/onsoranje
train that is.
https://www.youtube.com/onsoranje
train that is.
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Very poor performance from Holland yesterday against a team that lacks any form of quality. First half was shite. Played way to compact, second half things opened up more. Mind you this has nothing to do with RVP out, instead of Huntelaar. Midget is the real problem why he is always so isoleted. Sneijder is a white man's Kluivert, get rid of him now, he will never be of any use again, I dont want this to drag on for a few more years, even the media finally noticed his poor form and complete lack of condition.
Defensively it was a shambles as well, especially in the second half with all the subs on, especially Vlaar was shite, thats because he is shite. I dont care if he is captain of Feyenoord, he is shite, he always fucks us over as well. Everything about him is cringing, he even called his son Xavi ffs.
Also not happy with van Marwijk, why take the likes of Narsingh and John with you, and not give them a go? Isnt that the point of a friendly? But result is everything for him.
On a positive note, van Bommel was very good last night. As was Robben from the left side, his first goal was the goal he should have scored during the final. You could see he is was pleased after his performance, he even said: ''It's nice to play under a coach who has confidence in you'' And you could see van Bommel telling Robben after the second goal ''Let the Germans talk, they only use you as 21st century scapegoat jew''
Defensively it was a shambles as well, especially in the second half with all the subs on, especially Vlaar was shite, thats because he is shite. I dont care if he is captain of Feyenoord, he is shite, he always fucks us over as well. Everything about him is cringing, he even called his son Xavi ffs.
Also not happy with van Marwijk, why take the likes of Narsingh and John with you, and not give them a go? Isnt that the point of a friendly? But result is everything for him.
On a positive note, van Bommel was very good last night. As was Robben from the left side, his first goal was the goal he should have scored during the final. You could see he is was pleased after his performance, he even said: ''It's nice to play under a coach who has confidence in you'' And you could see van Bommel telling Robben after the second goal ''Let the Germans talk, they only use you as 21st century scapegoat jew''
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Fey wrote: And you could see van Bommel telling Robben after the second goal ''Let the Germans talk, they only use you as 21st century scapegoat jew''
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debaser wrote:Fey wrote: And you could see van Bommel telling Robben after the second goal ''Let the Germans talk, they only use you as 21st century scapegoat jew''
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