Nope, I've always said he's very over-rated. Ray seems to think he's Iniesta but one league goal ever is frankly dog shit.Puro wrote:He's always been SHITE! but you were NOT observing his game properly. TFS!Luis wrote:Jack Wheelchair is having a stinker.
You'll learn, you're still a young blood.
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Alright, fair enough.Luis wrote:Nope, I've always said he's very over-rated. Ray seems to think he's Iniesta but one league goal ever is frankly dog shit.
There are players who are overrated, some who are very overrated and then there's Wilshere in a league of his own. The media made up some shite about his game without any basis at all. The kid is UTTER SHITE!!!
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Yes - we're 2-4 points off the top of the table (depending on the Arsenal result) and have already got 3 of the toughest away games out of the way (Man Utd, Everton and Spurs).Luis wrote:Are you happy with how you're playing right now? You seem to be struggling in most games and all your strikers are a bit meh. Why did Mourinho let Lukaku go? Why is he only just starting Mata and Ba now?
We're only struggling to put the ball in the net. All 3 strikers have been wasteful in front of goal, which does make the decision to let Lukaku go on loan seem a little strange, but the most crucial thing is that Mourinho/the club didn't sell him. Hopefully he has a great season at Everton and that will convince the club to keep him at Chelsea next season and sell Torres.
Also agree that Mata should have started more games, but one of the reasons he hasn't is due to the form of Oscar, who has only scored 1 goal less than Ramsey in the PL, not that you'd know this listening to our media.
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I see that FAT SAM is sucking the life out of the game again. I bet he's happy.
While he was at Newcastle, Solano asked him after the team were told how to harass the opposition and "let them know you're there", Nobby Solano said "alright, after that what do you want us to do when we have the ball?"
Solano was gone! took his goals and assists to West Ham and FAT SAM didn't last a season at Newcastle. FAT SAM is a charlatan and a cancer to the progress of English football. TFS!
While he was at Newcastle, Solano asked him after the team were told how to harass the opposition and "let them know you're there", Nobby Solano said "alright, after that what do you want us to do when we have the ball?"
Solano was gone! took his goals and assists to West Ham and FAT SAM didn't last a season at Newcastle. FAT SAM is a charlatan and a cancer to the progress of English football. TFS!
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Judging a creative midfeilder on their coal scoring
Wilshire is over-hyped not overated.
He's easily England's most talented midfielder and is a brilliant playmaker and game controller.
But he's in terrible form right now. He's playing with the least amount of maturity he's ever done in his carrier and making a lot of technical mistakes and more frustratingly, tactical mistakes. None of this is helped by him playing out of position.
This game should show why its been so difficult for Arsenal with Wenger. Bringing Arteta in CM when Ramsey and Flamini were doing so great. Putting Ramsey and Wilshire out wide in a 451. He's handicapped this team for no particular reason.
Wilshire is over-hyped not overated.
He's easily England's most talented midfielder and is a brilliant playmaker and game controller.
But he's in terrible form right now. He's playing with the least amount of maturity he's ever done in his carrier and making a lot of technical mistakes and more frustratingly, tactical mistakes. None of this is helped by him playing out of position.
This game should show why its been so difficult for Arsenal with Wenger. Bringing Arteta in CM when Ramsey and Flamini were doing so great. Putting Ramsey and Wilshire out wide in a 451. He's handicapped this team for no particular reason.
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They're idiots at West Ham, they've built their team around Carroll, who is obviously a great player, but is also a total crock and is going to spend most of the season injured.Puro wrote:I see that FAT SAM is sucking the life out of the game again. I bet he's happy.
While he was at Newcastle, Solano asked him after the team were told how to harass the opposition and "let them know you're there", Nobby Solano said "alright, after that what do you want us to do when we have the ball?"
Solano was gone! took his goals and assists to West Ham and FAT SAM didn't last a season at Newcastle. FAT SAM is a charlatan and a cancer to the progress of English football. TFS!
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Wilshere! 1- 1
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Deflected goal for Arsenal
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The UTTER SHITE scores from a lucky deflection. Arsene so lucky!!!
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North London being shown up a bit so far today.
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2-0 WHAM
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Oh my.
If things stay like this Spurs will have scored 6 in 7 games. That's quite shit.
If things stay like this Spurs will have scored 6 in 7 games. That's quite shit.
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Wilshere with the pass of the match. Giroud should have scored.
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They need someone like Willian IMO.Kimbo wrote:Oh my.
If things stay like this Spurs will have scored 6 in 7 games. That's quite shit.
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0-3
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Spuuuurrrrrrssssss
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The true rival for Spurs! What a day for Wham.
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Relax, Erikson is about to score 4.
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Doubt it...Disco fanny is having a horrible lunch though, that's for sure.
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It's a bit early in the season for Spurs to spurs it up.
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That is an absolute fucking stonewall penalty.
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FT 1 -1. Fair result, we didn't do enough to deserve a win. We looked a bit leggy, and missed Sagna.
What the hell happened at WHL?
What the hell happened at WHL?
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Tactically out witted by Sam Allardyce. Who'd have thunk it.
Watching that game most of Spurs team played like they'd been away and only just arrived back from a vodka party in deepest darkest Russia. Oh wait!
Wham played exactly as expected and Spurs walked straight into it, conceding set pieces and stretching out the defence and midfield trying to pick holes through the centre. Turning point was Defoes miss early second half one on one with Jaaskelainen. From then on failed miserably and ultimately got what we deserved. Not that the title was ever realistic talk but at least now the trolling media will shut the fuck up about it. So many players still in transition , seasoned wily old c**ts like Allardyce and his team of big fuckers packing midfield are going to have success whilst the tactics are to keep trying to play a possession based game reliant on cohesive movement and understanding which only comes with familiarity.
Just waiting for Gaucho to come on here and blame it on Scott Parker.
Diame was excellent for them today. And whilst the first two goals were skanky as fuck, Morrison's was wonderful. Had to applaud that.
Watching that game most of Spurs team played like they'd been away and only just arrived back from a vodka party in deepest darkest Russia. Oh wait!
Wham played exactly as expected and Spurs walked straight into it, conceding set pieces and stretching out the defence and midfield trying to pick holes through the centre. Turning point was Defoes miss early second half one on one with Jaaskelainen. From then on failed miserably and ultimately got what we deserved. Not that the title was ever realistic talk but at least now the trolling media will shut the fuck up about it. So many players still in transition , seasoned wily old c**ts like Allardyce and his team of big fuckers packing midfield are going to have success whilst the tactics are to keep trying to play a possession based game reliant on cohesive movement and understanding which only comes with familiarity.
Just waiting for Gaucho to come on here and blame it on Scott Parker.
Diame was excellent for them today. And whilst the first two goals were skanky as fuck, Morrison's was wonderful. Had to applaud that.
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Haven't seen a meltdown on home soil like that for quite a while.
We really showed our youth on and off the field - ridiculously naive all round.
Defoe had his big audition and blew it, whilst Townsend is probably the only one that can come out of it with any credit.
WHAM showing that you can pack your team full of big blacks and get quality results, so that's a thumb in the eye for Fey.
If Ravel Morrison can stay disciplined then West ham are going to make a killing on him in the market.
We really showed our youth on and off the field - ridiculously naive all round.
Defoe had his big audition and blew it, whilst Townsend is probably the only one that can come out of it with any credit.
WHAM showing that you can pack your team full of big blacks and get quality results, so that's a thumb in the eye for Fey.
If Ravel Morrison can stay disciplined then West ham are going to make a killing on him in the market.
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You spent 70-80 million on attacking players this summer, why can't you score?
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Simply put they haven't had enough time together. I'd be more worried if we had a full pre-season with said players. We'll be ok.Kimbo wrote:You spent 70-80 million on attacking players this summer, why can't you score?
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62:38 Substitution, Tottenham Hotspur. Erik Lamela replaces Gylfi Sigurdsson.
65:40 Goal! Tottenham Hotspur 0, West Ham United 1.
71:51 Goal! Tottenham Hotspur 0, West Ham United 2.
78:50 Goal! Tottenham Hotspur 0, West Ham United 3.
ERIC LAMELA
65:40 Goal! Tottenham Hotspur 0, West Ham United 1.
71:51 Goal! Tottenham Hotspur 0, West Ham United 2.
78:50 Goal! Tottenham Hotspur 0, West Ham United 3.
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http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/06/tottenham-0-3-west-ham-united-delight-for-visitors-as-they-shock-spurs-at-white-hart-lane/related/
Best opening line from a news report I've read. "Andre Villas-Boas looks like he had been slapped."
Best opening line from a news report I've read. "Andre Villas-Boas looks like he had been slapped."
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It's a pertinent question, and it would be fair to distinguish the difference between not scoring and not creating. First two games of the season we weren't creating (but scored from pens), since then we've been creating but not scoring many.Kimbo wrote:You spent 70-80 million on attacking players this summer, why can't you score?
Today wasn't as though we had countless clear cut chances by any means, but enough to have at least scored first and at that point when teams like Wham come to defend deep and play on the counter, the whole narrative of the game changes. Instead they scored first (obviously from a set piece) and then were as superb on the counter as we were poor defensively.
It's concerning, but hardly terminal given chances are there and it's too early to tell if this attack will click or not. Im not sure what people expect when so many new faces are introduced. Ultimately we are still only 3 pts off the top and have played 3 tough London derbies against three sides who hate us (one geographically, two politically) and play like thats the case. If we're still not scoring come January and flailing in midtable then that will be a legitimate time for us jews to cry into our blutty bernies.
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