Football myths

Well Henry flopped at his club, so he has a reason to say what he says.

TeamSpirit™ wrote:Well Henry flopped at his club, so he has a reason to say what he says.

judging by few games: sheva is a chelsea flop, henry is an arsenal flop....

TeamSpirit wrote:*That Lampard, Nolan & Gerrard are great all-round Midfielders because they score tons of goals.

Yeah, Stevie is a great all-round midfielder because he can tackle, cross, pass, has reasonable pace and great stamina... and scores a few goals.

Simple.

henry couldn't cut it at the top level of club football. Had to seek success at a little club.

waft the hapless youth wrote:Simple.

henry couldn't cut it at the top level of club football. Had to seek success at a little club.

So not making in six months at a club is obviously failure then.

That's how long it took for Hierro to adapt, and he turned out to be one of our best players.

Another myth: Bolton play shit football.

I grew up watching Platini... he was my first football favourite, one of the reasons why I got so hooked to the game...

Parks Lives wrote:

Messiah wrote:

toon h wrote:there is a myth usually perpetuated by the younger members of the board, that Zidane was better than Platini. I have no doubt that the people stating that have not seen Platini play when he did.

couldn't agree more, i rate zidane very highly but i think he is worship to much on this broad.

You watched Platini in his prime, Messiah?

waft the hapless youth wrote:Simple.

henry couldn't cut it at the top level of club football. Had to seek success at a little club.

EPL = currently one of tht top 3 leagues in the world

Any mug can score in the premier league, especially when they play on a miniature pitch henrys home vs away stats speak for themselves. Being twice as fast as anyone else is also benificial.

My favourite Platini storyis that on his France debut he said to his teammate on a thirty five yard free kick, " pass me the ball and I'll score".

And he did.

Of course ZZ went one ebtter by coming on twenty minues from the end against Czechoslovakia and scored twice to pull us level.

bluenine wrote:I grew up watching Platini... he was my first football favourite, one of the reasons why I got so hooked to the game...

Parks Lives wrote:

Messiah wrote:

toon h wrote:there is a myth usually perpetuated by the younger members of the board, that Zidane was better than Platini. I have no doubt that the people stating that have not seen Platini play when he did.

couldn't agree more, i rate zidane very highly but i think he is worship to much on this broad.

You watched Platini in his prime, Messiah?

waft the hapless youth wrote:Any mug can score in the premier league, especially when they play on a miniature pitch henrys home vs away stats speak for themselves. Being twice as fast as anyone else is also benificial.

Ok let's see,

Sheva, one of the best strikeres in serie A for the past seven seasons has only scored 1 goal in 7 games in the EPL, surely this shows it isn't that easy to score in the EPL.

TeamSpirit™ wrote:

110% wrote:Gary Neville is good.


Just because he is the best that England have got, doesn't make him good. It just means you have got very bad players at right back.

Apart from G.Neville.

who's better, seriously?

Zambrotta, J.Zanetti, Miguel, possibly Cafu & Sagnol...that's about it really.

Well from the EPL off the top of my head I would say Eboue and Finnan.

OK I exaggerate, he is actually good defensively but poor going forward, and very poor as a footballer. The myth is that he is one of the best, and this is based on there not being anyone to replace him in the England team (this is actually because there is not a decent english right back around). I would say apart from the midfield balance it is their worst position.

Agooner wrote:

waft the hapless youth wrote:Any mug can score in the premier league, especially when they play on a miniature pitch henrys home vs away stats speak for themselves. Being twice as fast as anyone else is also benificial.

Ok let's see,

Sheva, one of the best strikeres in serie A for the past seven seasons has only scored 1 goal in 7 games in the EPL, surely this shows it isn't that easy to score in the EPL.

That's the same amount from open play as Henry isn't it?

Obispo wrote:

Agooner wrote:

waft the hapless youth wrote:Any mug can score in the premier league, especially when they play on a miniature pitch henrys home vs away stats speak for themselves. Being twice as fast as anyone else is also benificial.

Ok let's see,

Sheva, one of the best strikeres in serie A for the past seven seasons has only scored 1 goal in 7 games in the EPL, surely this shows it isn't that easy to score in the EPL.

That's the same amount from open play as Henry isn't it?

Wouldn't you say Henry has given much more than Sheva to the team this season?

Obispo wrote:

Agooner wrote:

waft the hapless youth wrote:Any mug can score in the premier league, especially when they play on a miniature pitch henrys home vs away stats speak for themselves. Being twice as fast as anyone else is also benificial.

Ok let's see,

Sheva, one of the best strikeres in serie A for the past seven seasons has only scored 1 goal in 7 games in the EPL, surely this shows it isn't that easy to score in the EPL.

That's the same amount from open play as Henry isn't it?

Henry has played 5 games, sheva 7 , right?

the one that annoys me the most

'liverpool are poor at defending set pieces'


you would think these commentators would bother to check out the facts before spouting utter nonsense

Agooner wrote:

Obispo wrote:

Agooner wrote:

waft the hapless youth wrote:Any mug can score in the premier league, especially when they play on a miniature pitch henrys home vs away stats speak for themselves. Being twice as fast as anyone else is also benificial.

Ok let's see,

Sheva, one of the best strikeres in serie A for the past seven seasons has only scored 1 goal in 7 games in the EPL, surely this shows it isn't that easy to score in the EPL.

That's the same amount from open play as Henry isn't it?

Henry has played 5 games, sheva 7 , right?

sheva 2 in 8 average 1 in 4.
henry 1 in 5 average
open play

l r d wrote:

Agooner wrote:

Obispo wrote:

Agooner wrote:

waft the hapless youth wrote:Any mug can score in the premier league, especially when they play on a miniature pitch henrys home vs away stats speak for themselves. Being twice as fast as anyone else is also benificial.

Ok let's see,

Sheva, one of the best strikeres in serie A for the past seven seasons has only scored 1 goal in 7 games in the EPL, surely this shows it isn't that easy to score in the EPL.

That's the same amount from open play as Henry isn't it?

Henry has played 5 games, sheva 7 , right?

sheva 2 in 8 average 1 in 4.
henry 1 in 5 average
open play

check your stats mate:

EPL stas after 7 matches:

sheva 1 in 7

henry 2 in 5 - one penalty scored

the point is anyway that waft is saying it is easy to score in the premiership... henry has already done it so his record this year is irrelevent...

but obviously this waft has been talking nonsense throughout the thread

l r d wrote:

Agooner wrote:

Obispo wrote:

Agooner wrote:

waft the hapless youth wrote:Any mug can score in the premier league, especially when they play on a miniature pitch henrys home vs away stats speak for themselves. Being twice as fast as anyone else is also benificial.

Ok let's see,

Sheva, one of the best strikeres in serie A for the past seven seasons has only scored 1 goal in 7 games in the EPL, surely this shows it isn't that easy to score in the EPL.

That's the same amount from open play as Henry isn't it?

Henry has played 5 games, sheva 7 , right?

sheva 2 in 8 average 1 in 4.
henry 1 in 5 average
open play

Another day where l r d gets the facts wrong.

Henry 5 games 2 goals.
Shevchenko 7 games 1 goal.

LRD was including the Charity Shield

And yes they've both scored the same amount from open play.

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@110%

What makes Finnan better than Gary Neville? I can't think of one area, truthfully.

Eboue will be better, he just isn't yet. His crossing is far mor erratic and Neville is still better defensively.

Eboue has played about 30 league games.

& Finnan?

Maybe you should of watched the Ireland game instead of the England one. Or even read about it.

TeamSpirit wrote:LRD was including the Charity Shield

And yes they've both scored the same amount from open play.

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@110%

What makes Finnan better than Gary Neville? I can't think of one area, truthfully.

Eboue will be better, he just isn't yet. His crossing is far mor erratic and Neville is still better defensively.

Why should u guys include his goal in the CS?

Ok overall stats still read:

sheva 10 games played( 7 EPL, 2 CL , 1 CS) = 2 goals

Henry 6 games played ( 5 EPL, 1 CL) = 3 goals( including one penalty)

I must also add, eboue is currently better than neville.

Agooner wrote:I must also add, eboue is currently better than neville.

The Andy Johnson is better than Henry.

Parks Lives wrote:

Agooner wrote:I must also add, eboue is currently better than neville.

The Andy Johnson is better than Henry.

yes if u also agree that cesc is better than scholes

Agooner wrote:

TeamSpirit wrote:LRD was including the Charity Shield

And yes they've both scored the same amount from open play.

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@110%

What makes Finnan better than Gary Neville? I can't think of one area, truthfully.

Eboue will be better, he just isn't yet. His crossing is far mor erratic and Neville is still better defensively.

Why should u guys include his goal in the CS?

Ok overall stats still read:

sheva 10 games played( 7 EPL, 2 CL , 1 CS) = 2 goals

Henry 6 games played ( 5 EPL, 1 CL) = 3 goals( including one penalty)

charity shield is v a top prem team, you was talking about the prem. he hasnt started well, but 2 goals from open play in 8. while henry 1 in 5.

l r d wrote:

Agooner wrote:

TeamSpirit wrote:LRD was including the Charity Shield

And yes they've both scored the same amount from open play.

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@110%

What makes Finnan better than Gary Neville? I can't think of one area, truthfully.

Eboue will be better, he just isn't yet. His crossing is far mor erratic and Neville is still better defensively.

Why should u guys include his goal in the CS?

Ok overall stats still read:

sheva 10 games played( 7 EPL, 2 CL , 1 CS) = 2 goals

Henry 6 games played ( 5 EPL, 1 CL) = 3 goals( including one penalty)

charity shield is v a top prem team, you was talking about the prem. he hasnt started well, but 2 goals from open play in 8. while henry 1 in 5.

u can't include the CS because henry didn't play in it!

I just gave u their stats in all competitions which still prove henry has a better goals to games ratio.

U guys have suddenly turned this into a henry vs sheva debate. I highlighted his EPL stats to prove to that WUM that it isn't that easy to score in the EPL as he suggested.

Sheva has done everything else well besides score. Drogba is not doing well while he is there by coincedence.

Defenders put more emphasis on Sheva giving Drogba more room. People already brandishing knives of criticism for him are too hasty.

Oh and my myth is that Capello is an exceptional coach.

TeamSpirit wrote:LRD was including the Charity Shield

And yes they've both scored the same amount from open play.

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@110%

What makes Finnan better than Gary Neville? I can't think of one area, truthfully.

Eboue will be better, he just isn't yet. His crossing is far mor erratic and Neville is still better defensively.

Don't agree about the crossing necessarily but at least he can run up and down the pitch all day, overlap, get to the by-line if necessary and cross it. I would definitely pick him ahead of neville.

I thought finnan and neville have been about equal for a couple of seasons, very good defensively, limited in what they offer going forward but this season finnan seems to have improved on going forward, maybe because he has space when gerrard drifts in, but also when playing with pennant he overlaps. Maybe it because of their team shapes, and manu having 3 midfielders, or him not being fast enough to overlap cronaldo, but neville really is very limited going forward and crossing, not mentioning shooting at open goals from a few yards away.