Oranje Thread

Fey wrote:

rai Mihawk wrote:@ Fey

Are you for real?

Ye mate but it sounds surreal doesn't it? What is the last time he played for us anyway? I think at least 4 yours orso. Is his form that good that MvB suddenly selects him

From what i have seen and reported this season with Milan, at times he is good and other times frustrating ... maybe San Marcos mate Ancelotti put in a good word .. not sure if he should feature

But is good for him knowing hes international career is not over ... maybe San Marco is playing mind games with van Bommel?

Fey wrote:

d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:van persie will probably be first choice striker from now on but i agree that koevermans deserves a chance. he should be ahead of huntelaar now in the picking order considering their club performances this season.

your being sarcastic....no? What did you make of Nigelhino's performances at HSV this weekend?

i haven't seen it, i do know that they lost. i blame it on the selling of both their star cb's and vdv's mia.

d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:no way... where did you heard that?

From Seedorf himself, he had an interview with Studio Voetbal. Will be on the news soon me thinks.

@ d gorgeous

Did you hear about the rumours AC Milan want Sneijderman!

rai Mihawk wrote:

Fey wrote:

rai Mihawk wrote:@ Fey

Are you for real?

Ye mate but it sounds surreal doesn't it? What is the last time he played for us anyway? I think at least 4 yours orso. Is his form that good that MvB suddenly selects him

From what i have seen and reported this season with Milan, at times he is good and other times frustrating ... maybe San Marcos mate Ancelotti put in a good word .. not sure if he should feature

But is good for him knowing hes international career is not over ... maybe San Marco is playing mind games with van Bommel?

Marco went to Milan to speak with him..This shows even more the incapability of van Basten. Now that he is in Trouble we go to talk with the oldies, now the young ones aren't capeble of delivering what's expected from them.

@ Fey

Schaars is part of San Marco's plans.

Not sure how Seedorf will feature in the team..

God knows why van Basten overlooks De Guzman and Hofs

rai Mihawk wrote:@ d gorgeous

Did you hear about the rumours AC Milan want Sneijderman!

yes, they were after him for years. he will go there eventually me thinks as a replacement for seedorf. i think he will be form a good partnership with goucoff. let's just hope that he wont end up like maxwell.

rai Mihawk wrote:@ Fey

Schaars is part of San Marco's plans.

Not sure how Seedorf will feature in the team..

God knows why van Basten overlooks De Guzman and Hofs

de guzman hasn't got his dutch citizinship yet i think and hofs is one for the future i think he will eventually be in his plans but doesn't want to rush him.

d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:

rai Mihawk wrote:@ d gorgeous

Did you hear about the rumours AC Milan want Sneijderman!

yes, they were after him for years. he will go there eventually me thinks as a replacement for seedorf. i think he will be form a good partnership with goucoff. let's just hope that he wont end up like maxwell.

At this moment in time, i want him to remain at Ajax .. but its his choice, a big one to make.

After Euro 2008..if they are still interested, he should decide his future.

d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:

rai Mihawk wrote:@ Fey

Schaars is part of San Marco's plans.

Not sure how Seedorf will feature in the team..

God knows why van Basten overlooks De Guzman and Hofs

de guzman hasn't got his dutch citizinship yet i think and hofs is one for the future i think he will eventually be in his plans but doesn't want to rush him.

Have still my doubts about Hofs, he has his moments but his form is too inconsistent. Ill think Feyenoord will be his max. De Guzman should be offered the Dutch nationality as soon as possible, tho he is heavy out of form.

it will mostly depend on wether or not their interest is based on real interest or just speculation

but

after 2008 is about time for him to go abroad i agree, for the right amount of money.

rai Mihawk wrote:

But is good for him knowing hes international career is not over ... maybe San Marco is playing mind games with van Bommel?

That's what I'm thinking too...

rai Mihawk wrote:
God knows why van Basten overlooks De Guzman and Hofs

I'll take the bait

Hofs is another Sneijder : not good enough and too small.

He defends a little bit more than Sneijder, is better at set pieces.
Sneijder is better when we're in posession and going forward though.

Robin van Persie is the man for our set pieces so we don't need either

De Guzman, Schaars and De Zeeuw should be the basis for our future midfield.

Looking at Feyenoord : De Guzman almost seems like a "vlag op een modderschuit"

He's a *major* talent.

is De Guzman already allowed to play for Oranje?

ricardojol wrote:is De Guzman already allowed to play for Oranje?

Not yet, but in this form there is no reason to give him a call for the Dutch team.

Or perhaps he needs better players around him to excel...

Voorlopige selectie

Doel: Maarten Stekelenburg (Ajax), Henk Timmer (Feyenoord) en Sander Boschker (FC Twente)
Verdediging: Urby Emanuelson en John Heitinga (beiden Ajax), Tim de Cler, Kew Jaliens en Barry Opdam (allen AZ), Giovanni van Bronckhorst (Barcelona), André Ooijer (Blackburn Rovers), Khalid Boulahrouz (Chelsea) en Joris Mathijsen (HSV)
Middenveld: Hedwiges Maduro en Wesley Sneijder (beiden Ajax), David Mendes da Silva, Stijn Schaars en Demy de Zeeuw (allen AZ), Evander Sno (Celtic), Ibrahim Afellay (PSV), Rafael van der Vaart (HSV) en Denny Landzaat (Wigan Athletic)
Aanval: Ryan Babel en Klaas Jan Huntelaar (beiden Ajax), Robin van Persie (Arsenal), Danny Koevermans (AZ), Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink (Celtic), Arjen Robben (Chelsea) en Dirk Kuyt (Liverpool).


Some laugable names, vdSar isn't there also.

Maduro and VDV are back, good to see Afellay and Kovermans ..

.. maybe San Marco wants to see how van der Sar's future replacement can cope .. plus he has been playing well (Stekelenburg)..

Yeah, but Sno?!

SpartaR wrote:Yeah, but Sno?!

That i have no answer..

Sno is a useless piece of shit. Same goes for Landzaat, in this form he should have even be near the national squad. And Scheitinga is there as well I see Tho glad to see Affalay is in it..

Glad to see VDS stopped playing friendlies, it's a good thing I guess.

SpartaR wrote:Voorlopige selectie

Doel: Maarten Stekelenburg (Ajax), Henk Timmer (Feyenoord) en Sander Boschker (FC Twente)
Verdediging: Urby Emanuelson en John Heitinga (beiden Ajax), Tim de Cler, Kew Jaliens en Barry Opdam (allen AZ), Giovanni van Bronckhorst (Barcelona), André Ooijer (Blackburn Rovers), Khalid Boulahrouz (Chelsea) en Joris Mathijsen (HSV)
Middenveld: Hedwiges Maduro en Wesley Sneijder (beiden Ajax), David Mendes da Silva, Stijn Schaars en Demy de Zeeuw (allen AZ), Evander Sno (Celtic), Ibrahim Afellay (PSV), Rafael van der Vaart (HSV) en Denny Landzaat (Wigan Athletic)
Aanval: Ryan Babel en Klaas Jan Huntelaar (beiden Ajax), Robin van Persie (Arsenal), Danny Koevermans (AZ), Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink (Celtic), Arjen Robben (Chelsea) en Dirk Kuyt (Liverpool).


Some laugable names, vdSar isn't there also.

On VDS I guess he wants to try something else. I can't see VDS and MVB having probs with each other!

I am glad with Mendez, Afellay and Koevermans!!! And, I hope Maduro is getting back to his old form!

Heitinga and no Kromkamp is beyond me

Sno I don't know too well to judge on him!

People are bashing on Landzaat but he was the most stable midfielder last international games against Albania and Bulgaria! He lost ZERO balls those games while he passed almost all his passes correct so please a bit relaxed on Landzaat!

The problem with Landzaat is. He doesn't hoof like a Van Bommel or a gerrard and that is what people like to see but is it also efficient????? I think Landzaat plays more efficient and also more effective than a Gerrard or a Van Bommel!

No Kromkamp! That means Boulahrouz can't play RCB, but RB instead.

Mathijsen hasn't been impressing or in a good form fro HSV so far either. I would have chosen someone else for defense then.
And FFS! Heitinga!

AAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

And someone naturalise De Guzman fast!

And I've never been too impressed with Stekelenburg either. Just as I'm warming up to him becoming the first keeper, he has a bumbling & flapping start of the season at Ajax.

He's no better than England's Paul Robinson.

Distinguished Dutchman wrote:And I've never been too impressed with Stekelenburg either. Just as I'm warming up to him becoming the first keeper, he has a bumbling & flapping start of the season at Ajax.

He's no better than England's Paul Robinson.

Imo our second best keeper is still good old Lodewijks.. Look at Timmer can be a dodgy linekeeper from time-to-time. But Steekelenburg makes at least one howler per game.

Fey wrote:

Distinguished Dutchman wrote:And I've never been too impressed with Stekelenburg either. Just as I'm warming up to him becoming the first keeper, he has a bumbling & flapping start of the season at Ajax.

He's no better than England's Paul Robinson.

Imo our second best keeper is still good old Lodewijks.. Look at Timmer can be a dodgy linekeeper from time-to-time. But Steekelenburg makes at least one howler per game.

Last couple of games .. he has been good.

I just wish Babos or even better Gomes were Dutch.
In all honesty, Gomes is the only succesor worthy (and good) enough.

rai Mihawk wrote:

Fey wrote:

Distinguished Dutchman wrote:And I've never been too impressed with Stekelenburg either. Just as I'm warming up to him becoming the first keeper, he has a bumbling & flapping start of the season at Ajax.

He's no better than England's Paul Robinson.

Imo our second best keeper is still good old Lodewijks.. Look at Timmer can be a dodgy linekeeper from time-to-time. But Steekelenburg makes at least one howler per game.

Last couple of games .. he has been good.

The only thing people want from a keeper is... consistancy.

Not a word I associate with Stekelenburg.

Does Afellay already have said, he wants to play for the Netherlands....????? I think this friendly will not make it impossible to play for Morocco the next game, will it?

How old is Stekelenburg? I am not impressed so far either but....
A goal keeper is mostly at best when he is 30+

But, Between 25-30 he has to show already he has class! Before you 25th you can't say anything about how good a keeper is!

ricardojol wrote:Does Afellay already have said, he wants to play for the Netherlands....????? I think this friendly will not make it impossible to play for Morocco the next game, will it?

How old is Stekelenburg? I am not impressed so far either but....
A goal keeper is mostly at best when he is 30+

But, Between 25-30 he has to show already he has class! Before you 25th you can't say anything about how good a keeper is!

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