d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote: Distinguished Dutchman wrote: d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote: ricardojol wrote:Only 2 losses in 29 games is not bad! 1 point away against Bulgaria isn't also that bad!
Those two losses were also against our "Angstgaegners"...
If we lost against Germany or england it would have been bad but there is hardly a Dutch coach that ever won from Italy and Portugal
i'm saying!
they want co adriaanse as coach, sooner or later he's not getting the results they want (i.e. win every game 5 - 0) and they bring his ajax past into the discussion. "he's amsterdam through and through he's as bad as van basten". 
Deluded and paranoid.
Its you that can't accept people with relations to Ajax being critiscised on their efforts, regardless of whether they're Ajax or not.
Club has nothing to do with it, otherwise people would have collectively hated the past golden generation (De Boers etc) as well.
Its when people adress the problems within the squad, some kneejerk and say: "they're Ajax so you hate them". That's right, there simply isn't another reason. Ajax people are infallible and the rest of us are just jealous
very distinguished
deluded and paranoid
Read your won post again, the one in bold, and if you can't see how paranoid and deluded it is, there's no point discussing it with you.
how come whenever there's a player to be critised on here, it's almost always an ajax player, and you say club has nothing to do with it.
Because its the Ajax players that are underperforming, from pure shit (Heitinga), not really necessary (Emanuelson). Babel is a last option striker. Sneijder a good deputy for VDV when he's injured, and does quite well if he's played correctly. Huntelaar is the first striker though ice cold and off form.
If you can't accept criticism of De Jong (or playing him injured), and in some impossibly strange way see that as an attack on Ajax, even though he plays for HSV, then that's your problem on not mine.
Players are criticised when they don't deliver, not because they play for a club. For example Landzaat and Ooijer are critcised too, yet you don't cry murder in their case. Jaliens shouldn't be near the squad either. You work it out big boy, I can't spoonfeed you every argument.
robben has done considerably less than babelinho in the last few games and not a word about it except "he's out on form", yet when babelinho contributes in goals in those games he's still critised.
You may not have noticed, but Babel doesn't always do a good job - in fact he has long been unimpressive for Oranje (his AJax from now is the best he's been though). He wastes a lot possession. He always does, and always has been. A good game for him is when he happens to contribute to a goal, yet still wastes opportunities.
Babel indirectly gets criticism (not from me) because his inclusion as a forward is debatable when he fills the spot of Ruud or Makaay for example.
nigelinho goes off and with schaars oranje gets outmuscled in midfield, is he being degraded for it on this mb? nopes not a word, but nigelinho who was oranje's best midfielder in the first half gets all the critics. talk about double standards!
De Jong has played many times for Oranje, and Schaars one starter and one substitution and is very young. De Jong is judged on his continued form, yet if people don't base their opinions of Schaars on one game you get hysterical. It was a small mistake, it wasn't like he was rubbish, incidentally, which De Jong has been a couple of times for Oranje. Yesterday, De Jong should have started because he hasn't fully recovered from an injury, and there were fit people to take his palce.
and you say my post was deluded and paranoid?
Yes. You can't bear criticism of Ajax players, or even players with an Ajax past. You can always read your post which I've put in bold. There's a nice conspiracy theory in there. Booga booga booga, we're all out to get Ajax players.
more like you and axe have an agenda against marco van basten. and don't take this the wrong way because the last thing i want to do is to insult my elders but you do have an inferior complex, it's not that hard to imagine considering the amount of hate posts you have against certain individuals who happen to be all related somehow with ajax.
Show me those hate posts, and please do show and prove I have an inferiourity complex. You can't expect to open that can of worms without even backing it up.
I can show go a long way showing you're the one with inferioury complex, since you think everyone hates Ajax players or doesn't share your opinons. Every criticism of an Ajax player is an attack on your person. Mate, you've even got conpspiracy theories. There's not much to deny here. In doubt, read this post again.
BTW Sneijder = smurf is the furthest I got, and its amusing. If you confuse banter with hate, oh well...
I don't mind replying to questions, arguments, debates or even accusations, but you better come with new stuff, or I won't be bothered to reply to them. I can't ride this Merry-go-round of stale non-arguments forever. There comes a point in every man's life when they can't be bothered to tell Ajaccieden that people are not out to get them, becasue they're Ajax.
Have one on me Padowan.
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your being sarcastic....no? What did you make of Nigelhino's performances at HSV this weekend?