Portuguese Superliga 06/07

Saiyng that Nuno is average and Postiga on the same sentence is the same as England has 9 world class players + Rooney discussion.

If Nuno is "average", then Postiga is truly atrocious.
And that is a fact. See his record ever since Mourinho stopped coaching him

Postiga went to a club that dind't suit him and when he returned to Porto...he had Co...a manager that couldn't stand him.

I'm not comparing the two or stating one is better than the other. You can tell me having Postiga back isn't good for Porto, if that's your opinion, but we won't agree.

Same as you can tell me that it is good for them to have him back, your opinion, I won't agree either. But that he his a "failed promise", there is no denying.
Fact is, they probably will not have him back, not until the new coach is chosen, and the new model applied to the team.

I've already said we aren't going to agree...

That's fine.

I'm denying that he's a failed promise.

You may not care, but I'm denying.

Just realized that Rui barros is the "interim" coach for Porto.
Now I understand why Postiga has been recalled....Jobs for the Boys....

And I'm sorry, Postiga his a failed promised.
Even in Seleccao with all the player around him, the only thing he has managed was a goal against England, and a few more against weak opposition (Pauleta part 2)

There is no denying that the kid played well under Mourinho, but tell me who does not do so.

I though that they would keep H Almeida, and work on him a bit more. Big,strong, the perfect target man.

Sporting: 4
Seville: 2

Great 2nd half!!!!!! Terrible defense!!!!

Just for the sake of argument, I'll give you Kezman's name as a guy who didn't play well under Mourinho.

You don't have to agree with me, that's fine. I'm just not writing Postiga off yet.

Doninha, nice to see them turn the result huh?

Things are never perfect when it comes to the reality of a long season, but things look good.

....heeh, some fool on 'Record' said that the big three were making Portugal look bad in Europe this pre-season and that of them, Sporting would be the weakest...

He probably should've waited for the second half

@Sporting: I saw that comment!!! Now that was funny!!!!!

I know, I couldn't believe how stupid he sounded.

Like I said, there are some people that just aren't happy...things aren't going that well outside the Alvalade area.

Again, this is just pre-season, but it's true we've had a good one so far. The others not so much...

Luso 'Sporting' wrote:Just for the sake of argument, I'll give you Kezman's name as a guy who didn't play well under Mourinho.

You don't have to agree with me, that's fine. I'm just not writing Postiga off yet.

But Kezman has been shite for the last few months, not even Cruyft or Hiddink would be capable of miracles with him

Anyway, do you loose your time with Record? They only publish the crap comments by opposing fans on their post box. I reckon that way they get more hits

Jesualdo to be Porto coach. Should be interesting, a Benfica supporter on the helm of Porto....Oh the horror,the horror.....

But he wasn't shite when Mourinho got him now was he? Of course not, that's why HE bought him.

Really, you could say that Mourinho took a quality striker and now he's never performed again.

Jesualdo shouldn't be allowed to manage Porto this season. He has a contract with Boavista. Unless he's sacked he shouldn't be allowed to change clubs in the same league the same season like this. What's the point of signing contracts?

If you force your way out of a club, player or manager, you shouldn't be able to sign in the same season for another club IMO.

Hey everyone.

Does anyone know where i can see on the net Nuno Gomes goal against Viena? I keep reading about it, but because the english tv doesnt show any other football apart from English, i'm stuffed.

Any thoughts on the new Porto coach? One of the guys i know here has always been telling me in the last few months that noone in the Porto squad could stand the guy and that most fans didnt either.

He was arrogant, but so is Mourinho (according to the english press mainly), but the thing that got me was is disrespect for the institution that is FC Porto.

Dont get me wrong I am a Benfica supporter and any unrest at our rivals tends to facour us, but it did got me that Pinto da Costa was putting up with this guy for this long, when at every opportunity he would dish out on his own players and, mainly, FCP.

Now going back to the first question, or second actually, who do you reckon the next manager is going to be?

Forget my question. Apparently the new manager of Porto is Jesualdo Ferreira.

Damn it. The last time that Porto had a "benfiquista" has manager they cleaned the floor with every opposition in Portugal!

Luso 'Sporting' wrote:But he wasn't shite when Mourinho got him now was he? Of course not, that's why HE bought him.

Really, you could say that Mourinho took a quality striker and now he's never performed again.

Jesualdo shouldn't be allowed to manage Porto this season. He has a contract with Boavista. Unless he's sacked he shouldn't be allowed to change clubs in the same league the same season like this. What's the point of signing contracts?

If you force your way out of a club, player or manager, you shouldn't be able to sign in the same season for another club IMO.

It's a question of opinion.And it was not Mourinho ho got him, it was Ranieri I think, I might be wrong.
I personally never rated him, but that's just me

Regarding Jesualdo and Porto, yes, he shouldn't be allowed to go to Porto, but we all know how things work in that part of Portugal. I presume he his doing the list of players to leave Porto already.

Hope not....

Paulo, you can see the goal here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omoJOI8GDLI

Is it true the Super liga is going to start with JUST 16 teams instead of 18?

Which teams relegated and which promoted then?

lampiao007 wrote:Paulo, you can see the goal here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omoJOI8GDLI

Many Thanks!!!

Yup, 16 only now

Desportivo das Aves and Beira mar where promoted, Gil Vicente,Penafiel,Guimaraes,Rio Ave where relegated

Many thanks! Which of the two is the better side?

Possibly Beira Mar, but, we shall see

You're wrong, it was Mourinho who got Keezman and I thought we already established that it's a question of opinion.

That's why I said you might not agree with me, regarding Postiga, but that's fine.

I think Keezman looked good while at PSV. He's been crap since he left however.

Beira Mar won the second division last year, so you would think they'd be the better side.

They've brought in Jardel. He's already won them a pre-season match with two goals...

Here's a question:

In what position do you think each of our 'big 3' would finish within the Spanish league? (Give an actuall placement)

or (A little easier to predict)

Would they fight for the title, CL, UC, Mid table or Relegation?

Just for the fun of hearing your opinions...

F.C. Porto
Nega contactos com Jesualdo Ferreria
A FC Porto SAD «desmente categoricamente» ter encetado negociações com Jesualdo Ferreira, técnico do Boavista para a presente temporada, no sentido de que fosse substituir o lugar do holandês Co Adriaanse, que recentemente deixou o clube azul-e-branco.




«Face às recentes notícias que têm vindo a público em relação ao novo treinador da FC Porto - Futebol, SAD, a Administração vem desmentir categoricamente que já tenham sido desenvolvidos quaisquer contactos», afirmam os «dragões», através do seu site oficial.

E o comunicado adianta ainda:

«A FC Porto, SAD encontra-se neste momento a estudar, com a máxima serenidade, os dossiers de diversos treinadores, entre todos os que lhes foram apresentados, não tendo estabelecido até à presente data qualquer contacto.», conclui o comunicado de dois pontos.

Luso 'Sporting' wrote:Here's a question:

In what position do you think each of our 'big 3' would finish within the Spanish league? (Give an actuall placement)

or (A little easier to predict)

Would they fight for the title, CL, UC, Mid table or Relegation?

Just for the fun of hearing your opinions...

Difficult to say. Money and support would be different. Expenditure also
Middle table on current budget, and this would be a very optimistic observation. Even with all the millions flying around in La Liga, I doubt that the big 3 would be competing for titles.

Regarding Kezman, yes it was Mourinho ho got him, ence on my post that I was not sure. But thank you for agreeing with me that he has been shite since he left PSV. I guess that my observation about coaches and miracles only got to you a bit later
And I still didn't rate him that high when he was at PSV.
And when Chelsea bough Tiago, and there was talks of him maybe going to Benfica, albeit on loan, I almost had a fit. Thankfully Atletico took him

Actually I still don't get what you were trying to say about Cruyft or Hiddink. I don't see the rationale at all.

The 'Keezman debate' started because you asked me to name a player that did not perform under Mourinho, and I named Keezman. You've agreed he did not infact perform well while at Chelsea...so you've agreed with me.

That he's been crap since he left is besides the point. In fact, as I've mentioned, if anything it would seem Mourinho took a quality striker and made him bunk.

You made a claim, I challenged it, and you've agreed with me through your own supporting arguements.

Whether or not you thought he was bad before he went to Chelsea is pointless, he's still an example of a guy who didn't perform well under Mourinho.

(Again this all goes back to Postiga playing well under Mourinho, which you claimed everyone one does, actually you asked me to name one who doesn't...hence Keezman)

BTW, Keezman and Tiago both played for Chelsea during the same season, both signed by Mourinho...why would Benfica get Keezman on loan?

Luso 'Sporting' wrote:Actually I still don't get what you were trying to say about Cruyft or Hiddink. I don't see the rationale at all.

The 'Keezman debate' started because you asked me to name a player that did not perform under Mourinho, and I named Keezman. You've agreed he did not infact perform well while at Chelsea...so you've agreed with me.

That he's been crap since he left is besides the point. In fact, as I've mentioned, if anything it would seem Mourinho took a quality striker and made him bunk.

You made a claim, I challenged it, and you've agreed with me through your own supporting arguements.

Whether or not you thought he was bad before he went to Chelsea is pointless, he's still an example of a guy who didn't perform well under Mourinho.

(Again this all goes back to Postiga playing well under Mourinho, which you claimed everyone one does, actually you asked me to name one who doesn't...hence Keezman)

BTW, Keezman and Tiago both played for Chelsea during the same season, both signed by Mourinho...why would Benfica get Keezman on loan?

The Kezman and Tiago situation was a mistake from my part. Last year It was a rumour regarding the possibility of Kezman going to Benfica on loan.
But looking backwards, it was a rumour started by Record, one of those inventions that our press has

And my words regarding Postiga where that he played well only under Mourinho (something that you still haven't proved otherwise, altough I can see that you have some simpathy for the kid) and I commented "who does not play well under Mourinho aniwhay". and Kezman come to the fore
My problem with Kezman, is that in 14 starts for Chelsea, + a few more apearences as a substitute, he scored, the incredible amount of 4 goals, the 1st of them from the penalty spot.

Mourinhos fault? Maybe, but I think that the player has some fault also.
And my personal opinion of the player does not chancge the fact that ever since he left PSV, he has been less than impresive, don't you think? And Mourinho does not coach him anymore....

Yup, I'd say we've come to an agreement.

Postiga played well under Mourinho, not impressive since then. He's been descent for Scolari considering his limited opportunities... (I just think he can still turn things around is all, not saying he's a superstar)

Keezman, I wouldn't disagree that he didn't play well for Chelsea, that's why I named him. You don't think he was very good prior to Chelsea, that's fine, so things didn't change for him in your opinion then...so we also agree he was a flop for Mourinho...whether it's down to Mourinho himself donesn't matter for our purposes (which I'm not saying it was). That said, Keezman has been crap since he left also...looks like Mourinho just picked a bad apple, nothing to do with the manner in which he coached him.

I think we can let it go now

What about the Jesualdo situation guys? Looks like they're going to be a little more causcious in their approach then at first expected.

I guess they realised that some problems might just arrise out of persuading another clubs coach to jump ship.

I just think it's a bad situation, and if it happens it'll be another blemish on our league's state.