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    Post by DS Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:34 am

    Roy Keane is being linked with a sensational return to football as manager of Sunderland.

    The club refused to state Keane was on the brink of being handed the job, however they confirmed talks with "a high-profile figure" were ongoing with a view to a swift appointment.

    The Black Cats slumped to a 2-0 defeat at Bury on Tuesday in the first round of the Carling Cup, a result which came on the back of four straight league losses.

    Niall Quinn, the chairman-manager, decided to relinquish all coaching duties after the Gigg Lane shock and announced his intention to appoint a "world-class" new boss.

    Manchester United legend Keane has no prior management experience, which would make him raw to the job rather than of established pedigree.

    However he enjoyed enormous success during his playing career and as a former United captain is a recognised leader.

    Quinn also knows him well, the pair having played in the same Republic of Ireland side for many years.

    Sunderland said in a statement: "No new managerial appointment has been made at this time.

    "The club is in discussions with a high-profile figure and is hopeful an announcement will be made in the near future."

    Keane, 35, retired as a player in June, after a short spell with Celtic during which he helped the Bhoys win the Bank of Scotland Premier League and Scottish League Cup.

    He ended a 12-year association with United in November 2005 and fulfilled a lifetime ambition by joining Celtic on an 18-month deal.

    He managed only 13 appearances for the Hoops before quitting on medical advice.

    With his body ravaged after cruciate ligament and hip operations, Keane had no choice other than to follow doctor's orders, and - should he be confirmed as Sunderland's new boss - there seems no prospect of him combining management with playing at the Stadium of Light.
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    Post by DS Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:35 am

    Now that be interesting.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:27 am

    it's not a rumour anymore - it was confirmed last night
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    Post by DS Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:55 am

    So what is your view on it Glenn?
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    Post by Clergyman Superstains Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:48 am

    Niall Quinn promised a world class manager, how is Roy Keane a world class manager? Its ludicrous.

    I see this going very badly.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:51 am

    BilalShah wrote:So what is your view on it Glenn?

    couldn't give two shits BilalShah. The decent player decdnt manager debate has been done to death. If he gets off to a good start he'll be hyped out of all proportion, if he starts badly he could be retired by Christmas.
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    Post by poiuy1 Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:59 am

    The thing is thoug hthey have gone with two previous managers on the left hand side of management, i don't think you could get a manager further to the right. It's going to be very difficult to do anything with that squad though,
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    Post by Clergyman Superstains Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:01 pm

    How do you know which way his penis hangs?

    I hear Kidd is the assistant.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:03 pm

    Kidd is jinxed.

    What are you on about Pooshoot? Left hand side of management? Rum on your cornflakes this morning?
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:07 pm

    poiuy1 wrote:The thing is thoug hthey have gone with two previous managers on the left hand side of management, i don't think you could get a manager further to the right. It's going to be very difficult to do anything with that squad though,
    what does that mean?
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    Post by poiuy1 Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:07 pm

    left hand side being paternalistic right hand side being authoritarian
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:08 pm

    Kidd is Jinxed?

    Great coach, average manager. He's to much of a nice guy.

    Keane isn't.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:09 pm

    thats why i ain´t sure he´d be a successful manager, fergie has had to adapt his style over the years as the authoitarian doesn´t work in the long term cos when it goes wrong they quickly lose the players, this is what moron-io has to be v careful of imho. i´m not sure keane has the wherewithall to change and will just be a peter reid paper cup throwing manager losing his temper all the time


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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:09 pm

    poiuy1 wrote:left hand side being paternalistic right hand side being authoritarian

    is this universal terminology or did you just make it up?
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    Post by poiuy1 Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:10 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:
    poiuy1 wrote:The thing is thoug hthey have gone with two previous managers on the left hand side of management, i don't think you could get a manager further to the right. It's going to be very difficult to do anything with that squad though,
    what does that mean?

    left hand side being paternalistic right hand side being authoritarian
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:10 pm

    Glenn Hysen wrote:
    poiuy1 wrote:left hand side being paternalistic right hand side being authoritarian

    is this universal terminology or did you just make it up?

    He's to smart for you Glynn. Very Happy
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    Post by Clergyman Superstains Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:14 pm

    Too be fair, I can make something up and sound intelligent.

    Fullupstoreastics.

    See?
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:15 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:thats why i ain´t sure he´d be a successful manager, fergie has had to adapt his style over the years as the authoitarian doesn´t work in the long term cos when it goes wrong they quickly lose the players, this is what moron-io has to be v careful of imho. i´m not sure keane has the wherewithall to change and will just be a peter reid paper cup throwing manager losing his temper all the time
    to get it back on topic
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:17 pm

    When did Fergie change his style?

    From what I've read he's just as firm behind the scenes, he's just become calmer in front of the media (apart from with the BBC).
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:25 pm

    firm but not completely autocratic which was the fergie of old before the players were all huge superstars and prima donnas. of course he loses his rag now and then but now and then is ok it has more effect than every minute of every day
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    Post by Roger Hunt Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:31 pm

    poiuy1 wrote:left hand side being paternalistic right hand side being authoritarian

    Don't think I agree with this.

    The left brain is mathematical and logical, the right brain creative and emotional.

    Sven is an example of a left-brain manager, all thought and little passion.
    Fergie and Keegan are both right-brain managers, authoritarianism and paternalism are just different manifestations of that.
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    Post by poiuy1 Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:32 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:firm but not completely autocratic which was the fergie of old before the players were all huge superstars and prima donnas. of course he loses his rag now and then but now and then is ok it has more effect than every minute of every day

    He moulds players though the likes of Neville Schoels giggs are all examples to the new players you look at players like Fletcher regardless of his ability, at a young age he acts and talks very proffesionaly like he has had all those years of experience at just 22. He has a close relationship with Rooney and Ronaldo also
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:33 pm

    Wonder if we'll be sending any players there on loan.

    Wouldn't mind sending David Jones there even if it is the Championship, get Keane to make him into a world beater. Here's hoping anyway.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:33 pm

    i´d agree poiuy1 but it means imho he isn´t autocratic as much as he was and has developed his management style which imho is a positive thing, can keane do that i´m less sure
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    Post by poiuy1 Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:36 pm

    Roger_Hunt wrote:
    poiuy1 wrote:left hand side being paternalistic right hand side being authoritarian

    Don't think I agree with this.

    The left brain is mathematical and logical, the right brain creative and emotional.

    Sven is an example of a left-brain manager, all thought and little passion.
    Fergie and Keegan are both right-brain managers, authoritarianism and paternalism are just different manifestations of that.

    it's nothing to with the brain Doh

    It's just the different ends of the spectrum
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:38 pm

    poiuy1 wrote:

    it's nothing to with the brain Doh

    It's just the different ends of the spectrum

    what spectrum?

    have you been taking LSD?
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    Post by L r d Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:09 pm

    keane will be great.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:13 pm

    You cant be great when you've got to work with that shite.


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    Post by L r d Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:17 pm

    I reckon he'll be another Souness, to be perfectly honest.

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