How highly do you rate Serie A now?

shazlx wrote:

L.r.d wrote:

Deano Ashton wrote:3rd best league...after The Premiership and La Liga.

Bundesliga and ligue 1 are not close. But la liga and epl are definitly ahead, will take a few years before that can change.

Considering the Italian clubs don't take the UEFA cup seriously they may loose enough points for the Bundesliga to catch up and maybe even take the 4 CL spots.

not really

shazlx wrote:Considering the Italian clubs don't take the UEFA cup seriously they may loose enough points for the Bundesliga to catch up and maybe even take the 4 CL spots.

In the long run maybe, but not in forseeable future, and probably not at the expense of the Serie A. Actually, the Serie A is the most consistent of all big leagues in the last 20-30 years. The last time Germany was in the "top 3" in the UEFA ranking was in 2000:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method2/crank2000.html

Before that, the Bundesliga was always amongst the top 3 btw.


But it's not just the UEFA Cup, I expect German teams, Bayern in particular, to become much stronger in the CL in the next few years as well. It all boils down to money, and steps are being taken to improve the financial situation of the league considerably in the next few years.

I will say its on par with la liga and EPL. i think people still have that
"Serie a= defensive" which isnt true. if people compare the teams in the top of serie a Inter/Roma/Milan/Fiorentina are all balanced or attacking teams. whereas EPL has two more pragmatic teams and two more attacking teams in Arsenal and man utd. and there is more goals in serie a then the other 2 big leagues plus La liga has gone down in the offensive department in the latter years best symbolized in Madrids ultra defensive title win last year, allthough that could change this season for several teams. i think the these assumptions that that one league is much better then the other comes from the much flawed CL and Uefa cup which doesnt show people think they do.

Comparing the big leagues is gay, lets be honest.

The White Cliffs Of Dover wrote:Comparing the big leagues is gay, lets be honest.

Almost as gay as player to player comparisons.

blutgraetsche wrote:

The White Cliffs Of Dover wrote:Comparing the big leagues is gay, lets be honest.

Almost as gay as player to player comparisons.

But still not as gay as Uncle Sol

Very close. *Just* behind EPL which is on par with La Liga.

A good article about the fall in Serie A's prestige.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=455420&root=europe&cc=5901&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos2

BoBo Vieri wrote:

The White Cliffs Of Dover wrote:

bluenine wrote:This MB used to be much more level-headed last year, with many posters from different leagues... now it basically represents other leagues from the eyes of EPL fans! I am afraid posters like Tweedy are only growing in influence here, and so many Italian/Portuguese/other posters have stopped coming here or reduced their frequency... its a sad state of affairs... and unless we all make an effort to invite more non-EPL posters here for a more balanced debate, this MB will lose its charm and become yet another EPL MB.

Gigliati wrote:When I look at the voting here, I can see Bluenines point. This board has an anti Serie A bias like most english boards. Also the creator of this thread either dislikes Italian football or has no clue about polling methods. Because in a fair poll, you should put the commonly believed choice in the centre. As far as I know, the Big 3 are still called the Big 3. That would only change when one of the Big 3 slips down the uefa rankings to below the top 3. Last I heard, Serie A was among the top 3 leagues in uefa rankings and boasted of the CL champion. Maybe such a poll would have made more sense last season. This season with Juventus, Napoli and Genoa back up, the Italian league is stronger than in recent memory. Surely the posters here realise as much? The EPL is a slightly stronger this season while Serie A & La Liga are about the same.

Untrue. For as many followers of EPL, there are just as many, or indeed just as VOCAL, posters on here who are anti-EPL and anti-England in general. I think you are being too defensive. Tweedle isnt half as blatant with his windups then say Otto is for example.

On the subject, lets not forget the Champions of Europe are from Serie A, so it is still a league on a par with the rest, just doesnt have the depth in quality the other leagues does. Then again, an increase in Italian players playing in Serie A since the 90's makes it a very healthy National league from an Italian perspective, something that is clearly becoming a problem in Spain and England.

Put it this way, I'd be happier if I were Italian with Serie A then an Englishman/Spaniard with La Liga and EPL

depth?

for a tart you have the main title challengers - Inter, Milan and Roma, then you have the CL chasing teams - Lazio, Juve and Fiorentina and then you've got alot of other good teams like Samp, Udinese and Palermo

No need to get personal

The widely held opinion that serie A is not what it used to be is a bit of a myth. True, the days when the likes of Parma could turn out a dream team every week are gone but technically and tactically it remains the most sophisticated league on the planet. No-one thinks about and analyses the game with the same unquenchable vigour as the Italian's, no detail is left uncovered. And all 20 coaches in Italy are Italian's. And as soon as a kid shows potential, he is wrapped in the cotton wool by the most qualified mentors in the game. This results in a conveyor belt of supremely gifted footballers, Italy have a much greater depth of talent than any other European country. Dont believe me? Just think of the world class number 10's they have produced in the last 10 - 15 years. Gianini, Mancini, Baggio, Signori, Zola, Del Piero, Totti, Pirlo. Not to mention the likes of Morfeo, Locatelli, Di Canio or Simone. Add to this the finest defensive history of any nation and the most disciplined strikers around and no wonder they keep reaching the world cup final every 12 years. So wish away Johnny Englander, but the demise of the Italian game has been greatly exaggerated.

The difference is that Otto exaggerates for entertainment and is sometimes funny. Posters like Tweedle are serious and believe what they write.

Doesnt have depth? You cannot be serious!

The White Cliffs Of Dover wrote:

bluenine wrote:This MB used to be much more level-headed last year, with many posters from different leagues... now it basically represents other leagues from the eyes of EPL fans! I am afraid posters like Tweedy are only growing in influence here, and so many Italian/Portuguese/other posters have stopped coming here or reduced their frequency... its a sad state of affairs... and unless we all make an effort to invite more non-EPL posters here for a more balanced debate, this MB will lose its charm and become yet another EPL MB.

Gigliati wrote:When I look at the voting here, I can see Bluenines point. This board has an anti Serie A bias like most english boards. Also the creator of this thread either dislikes Italian football or has no clue about polling methods. Because in a fair poll, you should put the commonly believed choice in the centre. As far as I know, the Big 3 are still called the Big 3. That would only change when one of the Big 3 slips down the uefa rankings to below the top 3. Last I heard, Serie A was among the top 3 leagues in uefa rankings and boasted of the CL champion. Maybe such a poll would have made more sense last season. This season with Juventus, Napoli and Genoa back up, the Italian league is stronger than in recent memory. Surely the posters here realise as much? The EPL is a slightly stronger this season while Serie A & La Liga are about the same.

Untrue. For as many followers of EPL, there are just as many, or indeed just as VOCAL, posters on here who are anti-EPL and anti-England in general. I think you are being too defensive. Tweedle isnt half as blatant with his windups then say Otto is for example.

On the subject, lets not forget the Champions of Europe are from Serie A, so it is still a league on a par with the rest, just doesnt have the depth in quality the other leagues does. Then again, an increase in Italian players playing in Serie A since the 90's makes it a very healthy National league from an Italian perspective, something that is clearly becoming a problem in Spain and England.

Put it this way, I'd be happier if I were Italian with Serie A then an Englishman/Spaniard with La Liga and EPL