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    Post by bluenine Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:47 pm

    Among the players since you started watching football (not all time legends you have heard about or seen highlights of), who would you rate as the best at the following:

    1. Taking freekicks?
    2. Crossing the ball?
    3. Most elegant tackles?
    4. Scoring off the head?
    5. Dribbling past players?
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    Post by TM Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:49 pm

    1. Taking freekicks? - Del Piero
    2. Crossing the ball? - Figo
    3. Most elegant tackles? - Maldini
    4. Scoring off the head? -
    5. Dribbling past players? - Zidane
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:56 pm

    1.Juninho Permbucano
    2. David Beckham
    3. The Kaiser,Alessandro Nesta
    4. Gerd Muller(going by what i seen on video clips)
    5. Diego Maradona,Luis Figo,Ronaldo,Cristiano Ronaldo,Robinho,Garrincha,Johan Cruyff,Pele
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    Post by Kimbo Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:06 pm

    Taking freekicks - Juninho/Van Hooijdonk
    Crossing the ball - Figo
    Most elegant tackles - Maldini
    Scoring off the head - Shearer
    Dribbling past players - Kinkladze/Zidane/Ronaldinho(i appreciate the ones that don't need pace or acceleration to get past players, it's more impressive)


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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:16 pm

    1. Taking freekicks?
    Juninho, Rivaldo, Beckham

    2. Crossing the ball?
    Figo, Beckham, Barnes

    3. Most elegant tackles?
    Hysén, Carragher, Hansen

    4. Scoring off the head?
    Shearer, Crespo, Karl-Heinz Riedle

    5. Dribbling past players?
    1998 Ronaldo, Okocha, Ronaldinho
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    Post by Cesc Soler Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:22 pm

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    Post by Bashmachkin Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:48 pm

    1. Taking freekicks?
    Laurent Robert was exceptional at taking freekicks, and would go through periods where you genuinely felt he wouldnt miss. But in terms of style and beauty, I always liked Rivaldos left foot. Though Hagi was about when I was relatively young, I liked him from the 1994 World Cup and Ive seen him take some nice free kicks.

    2. Crossing the ball?
    I go with the Beckham and Figo votes.

    3. Most elegant tackles?
    And the Maldini votes.

    4. Scoring off the head?
    Shearer was an excellent at heading the ball, but certainly the best the Premiership has seen was Les Ferdinand.

    5. Dribbling past players?
    David Ginola is the best footballer Ive ever seen in person, and he excelled at this, could glide past people on either foot. Brazils Ronaldo was, at his peak, always wonderful to watch too, would just surge past players with the ball stuck to him.
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    Post by bluenine Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:57 pm

    1. Taking freekicks?
    Mihajlovic, followed by Platini. This one is the easiest for me!

    2. Crossing the ball?
    Figo & Beckham

    3. Most elegant tackles?
    Maldini

    4. Scoring off the head?
    I am just not sure.... vieri, shearer, crespo, klinnsman, a lot of good contenders

    5. Dribbling past players?
    Romario/Baggio/Ronaldo
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    Post by Fey Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:00 pm

    1. Taking freekicks? Easy, that's Pi-air. Sinisha and Juninho don't even come close when he was at his best.

    2. Crossing the ball? Beckham

    3. Most elegant tackles? Boularouz

    4. Scoring off the head? Larsson

    5. Dribbling past players? Nuno Gomes v Turkey
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    Post by Parks lives Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:05 pm

    1. Taking freekicks? Del Peiro
    2. Crossing the ball? Beckham
    3. Most elegant tackles? Maldini
    4. Scoring off the head? Shearer, Batistua, Larsson
    5. Dribbling past players? Giggs, Zidane
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:08 pm

    1. Taking freekicks: Juninho
    2. Crossing the ball: Beckham
    3. Most elegant tackles: Ayala or Maldini
    4. Scoring off the head: Larsson
    5. Dribbling past players: Messi
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    Post by Machiavel Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:11 pm

    1. Taking freekicks – Van Hooijdonk, Dave Beckham, Rivaldo
    2. Crossing the ball – Dave Beckham, Cafu
    3. Most elegant tackles – Philip Cocu , Paulo Maldini
    4. Scoring off the head – Henrik Larsson, Alan Shearer
    5. Dribbling past players – Ronaldo, Marc Overmars
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:32 pm

    1. Taking freekicks – Pirlo
    2. Crossing the ball – Beckham and Figo
    3. Most elegant tackles – Nesta
    4. Scoring off the head – Vieri and Crespo
    5. Dribbling past players – Baggio and Ronaldinho
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    Post by bluenine Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:53 pm

    I am very surprised that no one else rated Mihajlovic as the best fk taker... I have never seen anyone better, or have a higher ratio of converting free kicks!! He holds the all time record in Serie A for scoring the highest number of free kick goals (29 i think), and that just tells half the story... coz he used to be incredible... when he took a fk, most people already assumed a goal like we do in case of penalty kicks. I remember when he joined Inter at the end of his career, if we were a goal down near the last 15-20 minutes, Mancio would bring in Sinisa instaed of a striker - coz all we needed was a fk!! But it was during his days at Lazio when he was unstoppable.

    When someone puts Del Piero or even Pirlo above him in terms of fks, its either just complete bias or they just haven't seen enuf of Mihajlovic. There is no way these guys are better than Mihajlovic.... absolutely no way.

    I am sure Bobo Vieri will have something to say in this.
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    Post by Parks lives Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:56 pm

    I cant believe Im the only one who mentioned Giggs in getting past players, Im not got to cry about it though.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:03 pm

    Spankeltoe wrote:I cant believe Im the only one who mentioned Giggs in getting past players, Im not got to cry about it though.

    For sure, in that case, Giggs would be up there.

    But dribbling past players? I have my doubts.

    Slight difference.
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    Post by bluenine Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:05 pm

    Why, does it make you feel like crying? Laughing

    Giggs is/was good, but not as good as Ronaldo or Baggio at their peak IMO.

    Spankeltoe wrote:I cant believe Im the only one who mentioned Giggs in getting past players, Im not got to cry about it though.
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    Post by L r d hAsta LueGo Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:08 pm

    1. Taking freekicks? Beckham......and i include delivery
    2. Crossing the ball? Beckham........Figo was not as good
    3. Most elegant tackles? Beckh.......Maldini
    4. Scoring off the head? Shearer. these days c.ronaldo..seriously
    5. Dribbling past players? maradona of course. these days messi.
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    Post by Parks lives Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:09 pm

    L r d wrote:1. Taking freekicks? Beckham......and i include delivery
    2. Crossing the ball? Beckham........Figo was not as good
    3. Most elegant tackles? Beckh.......Maldini
    4. Scoring off the head? Shearer. these days c.ronaldo..seriously
    5. Dribbling past players? maradona of course. these days messi.

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    Post by L r d hAsta LueGo Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:09 pm

    bluenine wrote:Why, does it make you feel like crying? Laughing

    Giggs is/was good, but not as good as Ronaldo or Baggio at their peak IMO.

    Spankeltoe wrote:I cant believe Im the only one who mentioned Giggs in getting past players, Im not got to cry about it though.

    Ronaldo in that 2 year period was the best around by a mile. But...it was just for 2 years. Otherwise definitly he would be my choice also.
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    Post by The Bulk Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:13 pm

    Krimbo wrote:Taking freekicks - Juninho/Van Hooijdonk
    Crossing the ball - Figo
    Most elegant tackles - Maldini
    Scoring off the head - Shearer
    Dribbling past players - Kanchelskis/Zidane/Ronaldinho(i appreciate the ones that don't need pace or acceleration to get past players, it's more impressive)

    Kanchelskis! Kanchelskis!

    I can't even remember him beating players with his pace never mind beating players with trickery!

    Ok maybe at Man Utd with his acceleration but are you sure about skill?!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rySVv9Ka5Ag

    Ok I think this is genius but he didnt beat anybody just took the absolute pi55 out of a small scottish team...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQJtZF_6Fyc&feature=related
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    Post by bluenine Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:13 pm

    How did I forget Maradona Doh

    Good call.

    L r d wrote:1. Taking freekicks? Beckham......and i include delivery
    2. Crossing the ball? Beckham........Figo was not as good
    3. Most elegant tackles? Beckh.......Maldini
    4. Scoring off the head? Shearer. these days c.ronaldo..seriously
    5. Dribbling past players? maradona of course. these days messi.
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    Post by Kimbo Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:18 pm

    The Bulk wrote:
    Krimbo wrote:Taking freekicks - Juninho/Van Hooijdonk
    Crossing the ball - Figo
    Most elegant tackles - Maldini
    Scoring off the head - Shearer
    Dribbling past players - Kanchelskis/Zidane/Ronaldinho(i appreciate the ones that don't need pace or acceleration to get past players, it's more impressive)

    Kanchelskis! Kanchelskis!

    I can't even remember him beating players with his pace never mind beating players with trickery!

    Ok maybe at Man Utd with his acceleration but are you sure about skill?!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rySVv9Ka5Ag

    Ok I think this is genius but he didnt beat anybody just took the absolute pi55 out of a small scottish team...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQJtZF_6Fyc&feature=related

    I just wanted to put a little guy on there. I was going to put Ginola on but thought it would appear biased. I seem to remember a game where he took on a bunch of players, i think it might've been for City, which is probably why he popped into my head.
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    Post by The Bulk Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:23 pm

    Krimbo wrote:
    The Bulk wrote:
    Krimbo wrote:Taking freekicks - Juninho/Van Hooijdonk
    Crossing the ball - Figo
    Most elegant tackles - Maldini
    Scoring off the head - Shearer
    Dribbling past players - Kanchelskis/Zidane/Ronaldinho(i appreciate the ones that don't need pace or acceleration to get past players, it's more impressive)

    Kanchelskis! Kanchelskis!

    I can't even remember him beating players with his pace never mind beating players with trickery!

    Ok maybe at Man Utd with his acceleration but are you sure about skill?!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rySVv9Ka5Ag

    Ok I think this is genius but he didnt beat anybody just took the absolute pi55 out of a small scottish team...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQJtZF_6Fyc&feature=related

    I just wanted to put a little guy on there. I was going to put Ginola on but thought it would appear biased. I seem to remember a game where he took on a bunch of players, i think it might've been for City, which is probably why he popped into my head.

    Haha, it's just that whenever I think of Kanchelskis in Scotland I laugh because he knew he was taking the piss but didn't care. He used to do stupid things like that all the time and then smirk. He liked to entertain himself when the games got boring. Great sense of humor plus he is supposed to be a really nice guy too.

    Brilliant entertainer was Andrei

    ok
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:29 pm

    1. Taking freekicks?
    Mihajlovic
    Beckham
    Chevanton
    Juninho P
    Del Piero
    van Hooijdonk


    2. Crossing the ball?
    Barnes
    Beckham
    Karpin
    Moravcik*
    McAllister*

    *didn't play in wide positions


    3. Most elegant tackles?
    Maldini
    Nesta
    Rio

    4. Scoring off the head?
    Bierhoff
    Kennet Andersson
    Lucarelli
    Trezeguet
    Shearer
    Vieri


    5. Dribbling past players?
    Maradona
    Baggio
    Gascoigne
    Drulovic
    Ribery
    Giggs
    Robben
    Overmars
    Figo
    Barnes
    Joaquin
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:34 pm

    Best at volleys

    Whom do you rate....? Hughes_dcannon
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    Post by Parks lives Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:39 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:Best at volleys

    Whom do you rate....? Hughes_dcannon


    ok ok
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:41 pm

    Spankeltoe wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:Best at volleys

    Whom do you rate....? Hughes_dcannon


    ok ok

    TBH - you can't even debate it regardless of Nationality or club allegiance.

    I witnessed 2 of his best live in the flesh.

    Spurs v Man U (89?)

    Oldham v Man U 93 or 94 ? at Wembley.


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    Post by Axeslammer Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:41 pm

    1. Taking freekicks?

    Van Hooijdonk

    2. Crossing the ball?

    Beckham

    3. Most elegant tackles?

    ScholesTigana

    4. Scoring off the head?

    Peter Houtman

    5. Dribbling past players?

    Messi
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    Post by Axeslammer Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:42 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:Best at volleys

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