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    i told you...Benitez is overated.

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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:46 pm

    Luis wrote:United come so close to the final but fall at the last hurdle to AC Milan!!! what a shame! Ferguson fails again

    You never know, Man U could do it this season. As long as they don't have to play Milan, of course...
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    Post by COTR Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:54 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    COTR wrote:And you call me kneejerk lrd Wink

    we will be absolutely fine this season. mark my words

    How's the sand down there?

    Laugh

    Is this the only joke you know spank ??
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    Post by Football Genius Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:10 pm

    110% wrote:
    Arnaud is beautiful wrote:I will stay calm and will insult nodoby...but you Liverpool fans are total morons <Ale>



    lol!

    Had to giggle at this aswell lol! <Ale>
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    Post by Batman Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:34 pm

    I think the problem is that Rafa has too many players to choose from.
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    Post by Luis Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:46 pm

    Batman wrote:I think the problem is that Rafa has too many players to choose from.

    Nonesense, does a player have a problem when he has 20 hot sluts to f@ck in one night?
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:47 pm

    Batman wrote:I think the problem is that Rafa has too many players to choose from.

    I think that he isn't being ruthless enough in terms of his transfers. He's got too many players, you're right there, and too many of them are mediocre for the level Liverpool are aiming to be at. Players like Babel and Torres should have been bought the first or second summer after he arrived. They should have already been bedded in. Particularly someone like Babel. If Benitez wanted a left winger then he should have bought one. Not a right footed supporting forward. If he wanted a young player to mould into the position, he should have bought him earlier.

    It's widely said that he isn't a great coach in terms of improving players on the training pitch, and his transfers are good but nothing exceptional, so you've got to wonder, what is he that good at which would justify his reputation? Making substitutions, picking line-ups for specific games. Two very important attributes but I think he'd work better alongside someone who took more reponsibility for the scouting and transfers, someone who could see the holes at centreback and on the wings and do something about it. He's three years in, still playing Riise and Gerrard as the wide midfielders...
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    Post by Super Progress Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:51 pm

    Rabbit wrote:
    Batman wrote:I think the problem is that Rafa has too many players to choose from.

    I think that he isn't being ruthless enough in terms of his transfers. He's got too many players, you're right there, and too many of them are mediocre for the level Liverpool are aiming to be at. Players like Babel and Torres should have been bought the first or second summer after he arrived. They should have already been bedded in. Particularly someone like Babel. If Benitez wanted a left winger then he should have bought one. Not a right footed supporting forward. If he wanted a young player to mould into the position, he should have bought him earlier.

    It's widely said that he isn't a great coach in terms of improving players on the training pitch, and his transfers are good but nothing exceptional, so you've got to wonder, what is he that good at which would justify his reputation? Making substitutions, picking line-ups for specific games. Two very important attributes but I think he'd work better alongside someone who took more reponsibility for the scouting and transfers, someone who could see the holes at centreback and on the wings and do something about it. He's three years in, still playing Riise and Gerrard as the wide midfielders...
    i agree he needs the setup that he would have had in spain with a sportsdirector who makes the purchases.
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    Post by Arnaud loves Catherine Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:52 pm

    Luis wrote:
    Batman wrote:I think the problem is that Rafa has too many players to choose from.

    Nonesense, does a player have a problem when he has 20 hot sluts to f@ck in one night?
    ...??? Why the hell are you in my FOOTBALL threads writting things like that ?

    Unlike virgin losers like you i respect girls in general.Go away you fucking sh!t or i will complain about your post.

    f@ck off <Ale>
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    Post by Luis Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:54 pm

    Arnaud is beautiful wrote:
    Luis wrote:
    Batman wrote:I think the problem is that Rafa has too many players to choose from.

    Nonesense, does a player have a problem when he has 20 hot sluts to f@ck in one night?
    ...??? Why the hell are you in my FOOTBALL threads writting things like that ?

    Unlike virgin losers like you i respect girls in general.Go away you fucking sh!t or i will complain about your post.

    f@ck off <Ale>

    lol! lol! lol!
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    Post by COTR Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:55 pm

    Arnaud is beautiful wrote:
    Luis wrote:
    Batman wrote:I think the problem is that Rafa has too many players to choose from.

    Nonesense, does a player have a problem when he has 20 hot sluts to f@ck in one night?
    ...??? Why the hell are you in my FOOTBALL threads writting things like that ?

    Unlike virgin losers like you i respect girls in general.Go away you fucking sh!t or i will complain about your post.

    f@ck off <Ale>

    Our friendly frenchman is back Laughing
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    Post by Arnaud loves Catherine Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:56 pm

    Luis wrote:
    Arnaud is beautiful wrote:
    Luis wrote:
    Batman wrote:I think the problem is that Rafa has too many players to choose from.

    Nonesense, does a player have a problem when he has 20 hot sluts to f@ck in one night?
    ...??? Why the hell are you in my FOOTBALL threads writting things like that ?

    Unlike virgin losers like you i respect girls in general.Go away you fucking sh!t or i will complain about your post.

    f@ck off <Ale>

    lol! lol! lol!
    Good boy Luis,good boy. <Ale>
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    Post by Luis Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:57 pm

    scratch Have you gone mental or something?
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    Post by Arnaud loves Catherine Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:59 pm

    Luis wrote:scratch Have you gone mental or something?
    No i have just noticed you have calm down after i told you to shut up about your insults toward girls.That's great.Now insult me if you want but forget girls in MY FOOTBALL threads.
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    Post by Batman Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:00 pm

    Can some list all the players that Rafa has signed and sold during his time at Liverpool?

    Morientes
    Bellamy
    etc...?
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    Post by Arnaud loves Catherine Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:01 pm

    Batman wrote:Can some list all the players that Rafa has signed and sold during his time at Liverpool?

    Morientes
    Bellamy
    etc...?
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    Post by L r d hAsta LueGo Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:05 pm

    Arnaud is beautiful wrote:
    Batman wrote:Can some list all the players that Rafa has signed and sold during his time at Liverpool?

    Morientes
    Bellamy
    etc...?
    Josemi,Nunez, <Ale>

    Gonzales, Palleta
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:06 pm

    Can we include Sissoko already?
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    Post by Arnaud loves Catherine Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:07 pm

    Cisse
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    Post by Arnaud loves Catherine Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:08 pm

    Zenden
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:09 pm

    Jan Kromkamp
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    Post by Football Genius Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:11 pm

    Arnaud is beautiful wrote:Cisse

    Wasn't bought by Benitez ok
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    Post by Chocolate Thunder Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:11 pm

    Signed:

    Josemi
    Alonso
    Garcia (Parky <Ale> )
    Sissoko
    Crouch
    Bellamy
    Babel
    Torres
    Voronin
    Palleta
    Lucas
    Kromkamp
    Morientes
    Agger
    Fowler


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    Post by Parks lives Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:11 pm

    Luis Garcia then.
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    Post by Batman Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:21 pm

    Players Rafa has signed and sold over 4 season:

    Pellegrino
    Paletta
    Josemi
    Kromkamp
    Nunez
    Zenden
    Gonzales
    Garcia
    Morientes
    Bellamy
    Fowler

    Carson(loan)

    So is Rafa good in the transfer market?
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    Post by Luis Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:23 pm

    Yes.
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    Post by L r d hAsta LueGo Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:26 pm

    Batman wrote:Players Rafa has signed and sold over 4 season:

    Pellegrino
    Paletta
    Josemi
    Kromkamp
    Nunez
    Zenden
    Gonzales
    Garcia
    Morientes
    Bellamy
    Fowler

    Carson(loan)

    So is Rafa good in the transfer market?

    One of his former players said he treats people like robots. And this just goes to emphasise that. His man management has never been his highest quality.
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    Post by Batman Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:29 pm

    L r d wrote:
    Batman wrote:Players Rafa has signed and sold over 4 season:

    Pellegrino
    Paletta
    Josemi
    Kromkamp
    Nunez
    Zenden
    Gonzales
    Garcia
    Morientes
    Bellamy
    Fowler

    Carson(loan)

    So is Rafa good in the transfer market?

    One of his former players said he treats people like robots. And this just goes to emphasise that. His man management has never been his highest quality.

    Who do you think will be next on that list?

    No.1 has to be Crouch.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:29 pm

    Crouch or Sissoko.

    Wouldn't be suprised if Carson stayed at Villa either.
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    Post by 110% Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:39 pm

    L r d wrote:
    Batman wrote:Players Rafa has signed and sold over 4 season:

    Pellegrino
    Paletta
    Josemi
    Kromkamp
    Nunez
    Zenden
    Gonzales
    Garcia
    Morientes
    Bellamy
    Fowler

    Carson(loan)

    So is Rafa good in the transfer market?

    One of his former players said he treats people like robots. And this just goes to emphasise that. His man management has never been his highest quality.

    obviously his biggest problem

    treated cisse like Cr@p (on that I agree with arnaud), but played morientes all the time if though he didn't suit the EPL. Doesn't seem to have a particularly close relationship with the liverpool players, like mourinho, ferguson or wenger have/had with their players

    to be fair though, he was given nunez as part of the owen deal, and kronkamp was a swap for josemi and some of the players like zenden, pellegrino and fowler were kind of on the tail end's of their career so were never bought for the long term and only cost a couple of million so them having left after 4 years doesn't mean anything, palletta didn't develop like he hoped, and that happens to all managers

    So his real failures that he paid proper money for were morientes, gonzalez and bellamy (who was always $h!t anyway) so as someone said he might have a problem with attacking players
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    Post by Kimbo Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:42 pm

    110% wrote:bellamy (who was always $h!t anyway)

    Well done. Doh


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