Ramos takes Spurs Rein

i think if there is any players that Ramos should bring with him, it should be poulsen. he could could do a fine job in protecting the back and he is able to help in attack aswell. zokora-poulsen would be good i think. and he would be cheap since he still has a clause for about 7-10 mil euros.

Poulsen's clause was 10 million euros, but I thought they increased it this summer?

Anyway, an article from Phil Ball:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=476931&root=europe&cc=5901&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1

Carlton Cole wrote:

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:they do see it as a big fixture just not as big as you, its obvious. for whu its prob the biggest away fixture of the season, spuds or anybody else for that matter in the epl would not see whu away as their biggest away fixture

Oh dear...look, you don't understand the rivalry between us and Tottenham. That much is clear.

lmfao spuds biggest away game is arsenal that much is obvious to the biggest gimp in football, so what the f@ck are you on about, you must be the most biased poster on here and that takes some doing with luis posting on here

First media conference on Sky Sports News in the next few minutes. Should be interesting to see what he has to say. Not sure whether he will speak in English or Spanish.

i thought he'd been learning english for a while now, not saying it'll be perfect but i'd expected before the media said he didn't speak the lingo that he could get basic things over.

hes been giving them vigorous training saying they wernt near the fitness levels he wants probably will be the first thing

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:i thought he'd been learning english for a while now, not saying it'll be perfect but i'd expected before the media said he didn't speak the lingo that he could get basic things over.

I'm sure he will give it a go. Perhaps beginning in English, but some of the more advanced questions may need a translation perhaps. Are you fluent in Spanish Frank?

not fluent no, still struggle with some things, its not easy and i'm no natural.

And the word is Poyet (and Wise) attended a meeting at SJP immediately after the newcastle match!!!

We didn't seem to learn too much from that. He stated that his ambitions were to develop Spurs over the years of his contract to challenge the top four, certainly he seems to be in this for the long term rather than jumping into an all or nothing this season, the results need to start improving immediately however. There were a few word in English at the end there, wasn't too shabby and I am sure with Poyet and the players around him he should be fine before long.

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:

Carlton Cole wrote:

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:they do see it as a big fixture just not as big as you, its obvious. for whu its prob the biggest away fixture of the season, spuds or anybody else for that matter in the epl would not see whu away as their biggest away fixture

Oh dear...look, you don't understand the rivalry between us and Tottenham. That much is clear.

lmfao spuds biggest away game is arsenal that much is obvious to the biggest gimp in football, so what the f@ck are you on about, you must be the most biased poster on here and that takes some doing with luis posting on here

Shut up you moron. You keep commenting on something you know nothing about. 2 Spurs fans have backed up what I'm saying, yet you still argue. I know what the f@ck I'm on about as regards to West Ham and Spurs...you fucking don't...and you show that in quite a clear way.

backed up what actually pr¡ck absolutely nothing, i ain't fucking disputing its not an important match for them just its quite clearly a bigger match for whu, so what is your point

Just What Is Ramos Taking Over?

We take a look at the Tottenham squad inherited by Juande Ramos and my word, it looks poor until you get to the strikers. How impressed will he be when he sees Jermaine Jenas in training...


GOALKEEPERS: Paul Robinson, Radek Cerny and Ben Alnwick.

It's little wonder that one of the first names linked with a move to Tottenham was Seville keeper Andrés Palop. Anyone who has taken a passing interest in English football - and Ramos apparently takes more than a passing interest - will know that Robinson has a bigger confidence problem than the fat friend of the Prom Queen. If Spurs don't buy a keeper in January, I'll eat my hat and yours.


DEFENDERS: Benoît Assou-Ekotto, Gareth Bale, Pascal Chimbonda, Michael Dawson, Anthony Gardner, Younes Kaboul, Paul Stalteri, Ledley King and Young-Pyo Lee.

Chimbonda will look nervously towards Spain and the movements of one Dani Alves, but it is in the centre of defence where Spurs have real problems. The likes of Dawson, Gardner and Kaboul are half-decent players but they need a leader and that has been too plainly lacking. Dawson in particular looks like a shadow of the player he can be beside King.

Ivica Dragutinovic (on the verge of a move to Newcastle last summer) is one name likely to be linked to a White Hart Lane move, the 31-year-old Serb offering exactly the right experience that Spurs so desperately need. He is also left-footed and can offer cover at left-back, where they are poor in the absence of Gareth Bale.

With the second-worst defence in the Premier League (behind Derby) there is absolutely no question where Ramos will begin his overhaul.


MIDFIELDERS: Jermain Jenas, Kevin Prince Boateng, Aaron Lennon, Steed Malbranque, Wayne Routledge, Tom Huddlestone, Adel Taarabt, Teemu Tainio and Didier Zokora.

That's a lot of names with not a lot of quality. The fact that only Lennon would get near any of the Big Four line-ups is telling. Lennon was also picked out by Ramos when Sevilla faced Spurs last season, and now his challenge will be to find three other midfielders good enough to play with him.

Once again, the problem has been buying players that are low on experience in some kind of misguided effort to match Arsenal. Some of those players (Huddlestone and Zokora particularly) could flourish alongside a couple of footballers who had the composure to put their foot on the ball and take a game by the scruff of the neck, but alongside Tainio or Jenas? Not a chance.

If he decides that Jenas is good enough to launch an assault on the top half of the Premier League, there'll be socks to eat as well as hats...


FORWARDS: Robbie Keane, Jermain Defoe, Dimitar Berbatov and Darren Bent.

If Berbatov's problem was his relationship with Martin Jol, the partnership of Berbatov and Keane should now pick itself. Keane has scored 23 goals in his last 30 games and that is an admirable record in a struggling side. There's clearly goals in that pairing if Berbatov's attitude could match his obvious ability.

Incoming in January is likely to be Fredi Kanoute, who left Tottenham two years ago after a spell of mixed fortunes. This could be good news for Defoe, who formed a decent partnership with Kanoute at West Ham and then at Spurs. Kanoute was the foil for Defoe's best goalscoring spell and Ramos might well find that out if he talks to the Malian.

The odd man out is surely Darren Bent, who is patently not good enough for a side with top-four aspirations. Spurs will obviously lose money if they sell him in January, but when you pay £16m for a decent Premiership player, that's always going to happen. Imagine what a midfield that money might have bought...

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8750_2834262,00.html

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:backed up what actually pr¡ck absolutely nothing, i ain't fucking disputing its not an important match for them just its quite clearly a bigger match for whu, so what is your point

A way to end this arguement...

Are you a West Ham supporter? No...
Are you a Tottenham supporter? No...
Do you have a clue about this rivalry? No...

So shut up you thick sheepshagging c**t.

Carlton Cole wrote:

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:backed up what actually pr¡ck absolutely nothing, i ain't fucking disputing its not an important match for them just its quite clearly a bigger match for whu, so what is your point

A way to end this arguement...

Are you a West Ham supporter? No...
Are you a Tottenham supporter? No...
Do you have a clue about this rivalry? No...

So shut up you thick sheepshagging c**t.

i know at least 40 whu fans v well having lived in london for 10 years and not one of them would even dare to suggest that spurs' biggest match of the season is whu, this season it is almost certainly your biggest away match and i have that on v good authority from numeorus whu fans who i drink with so stop spouting your bullsh¡t, and if i'm not mistaken kimbo was barred for less that that you RACIST coont

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:

Carlton Cole wrote:

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:backed up what actually pr¡ck absolutely nothing, i ain't fucking disputing its not an important match for them just its quite clearly a bigger match for whu, so what is your point

A way to end this arguement...

Are you a West Ham supporter? No...
Are you a Tottenham supporter? No...
Do you have a clue about this rivalry? No...

So shut up you thick sheepshagging c**t.

i know at least 40 whu fans v well having lived in london for 10 years and not one of them would even dare to suggest that spurs' biggest match of the season is whu, this season it is almost certainly your biggest away match and i have that on v good authority from numeorus whu fans who i drink with so stop spouting your bullsh¡t, and if i'm not mistaken kimbo was barred for less that that you RACIST coont

Haha...so you can call me a Pr!ck...and I can't call you a sheepshagging c**t...when you are talking about a subject you have no idea about.
Your initial point was Spurs don't see our game as a big game...two Tottenham supporters disagreed. Now you change your point and act like a c**t about it. Still what else will a c**t act like?

RE-READ MY COMMENTS PR¡CK, I DIDN'T SAY IT WASN'T A BIG GAME, JUST YOU SEE IT AS A BIGGER GAME TRY LEARNING TO RE-READ YOU HALF BREED

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:the point being if you were in their position you'd still sell out, cos you see it as one of the biggest matches of the season, the spuds don't

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:just goes to show whu see spuds as a big game whereas the spuds don't see whu as such a big game, smaller team syndrome

This was your initial point...Zack and TS said this was wrong...all other Spurs fans would say the same...

So don't try changing your argument now...

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:the point being if you were in their position you'd still sell out, cos you see it as one of the biggest matches of the season, the spuds don't

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:just goes to show whu see spuds as a big game whereas the spuds don't see whu as such a big game, smaller team syndrome

This was your initial point...Zack and TS said this was wrong...all other Spurs fans would say the same...

So don't try changing your argument now...

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:RE-READ MY COMMENTS PR¡CK, I DIDN'T SAY IT WASN'T A BIG GAME, JUST YOU SEE IT AS A BIGGER GAME TRY LEARNING TO RE-READ YOU HALF BREED

I'm the half breed yet you are from Wales?? Hmm...

HAHAHA RE-READ IT "as such a big game"

This shows you are wrong...as they do see it as such a big game...like Zack said...FFS .

i give in. every whu fan i know (which as a lot), bar 1 say its their biggest away game of this season, the spuds fans i know all say arsenal is their biggest away game of this season so how the fook can spuds fans see it as an equally big game. its not their biggest away game

My family is a mix of West Ham and Tottenham supporters...therefore I get both views, yet you continue to argue FFS.

In his interview he also said that he's already speaking English on the training ground and the players understand him fine, it's just in the press conferences that he doesn't feel confident enough about his English.

Really looking forward to see how he adapts

its nit what i've heard