Arsenal Vs Man United

Dark Savante wrote:Getting a bit conterversial but Arsenal has only managed 2 points out of big 4.

Prediction was 4 points wan't it. Probably better than 3 points however as this way the opposition have dropped 4 points! Good for the chasing teams

Rosy wrote:

robert wrote:Dissapointing is an understatement. When you carve out leads against such teams, closing them out is important because this is what Champions league trophy runs are made off, we have just demonstrated why twice in 1 match we can't fucking do it.

Give the opposition some credit.

Who cares if they played like fucking 1960s Madrid, closing out big teams that are the best in attacking s what winning the CL is about and again we are incapable of that.

I thought there would be goals!

As usual the second half was much better than the first as is always the case in these big games. I thought Arsenal played the better football and looked like they wanted the win more, United were happy to sit back and frustrate Arsenal, United on the whole didn't have a great deal of chances but took advantage of some poor Arsenal defending.

I don't think United deserved to win, I'm not so sure Arsenal deserved to win though, so a draw was a fair result. Gallas was class.

Great result for Chelsea and Liverpool

Not saying that Tweedle , would have taken the point before the game and even now but I think we could have hold out.

COTR wrote:

Kimbo wrote:Christ, those Manx love their theatrics eh?

Fergie should recieve a lengthy touchline ban for his theatrics during the game. either that or keep him off the wine for a while. evra and anderson are hateful c**ts

I thought Ronaldo didn't dive anymore? Confounded. And I thought Vidic was supposed to be nails , he looked like a beached trout wriggling around on the ground after one corner, then he realised he wasn't getting anything and got up.

Almunia shouldnt have come rushing off his line for the second goal.

The attitude of some of those players is totally wrong

Luis wrote:I don't think United deserved to win, I'm not so sure Arsenal deserved to win though, so a draw was a fair result. Gallas was class.

He was our best defender against your lot as well. Truly showing what a class player he is and what we've missed for large sections of last season and much of this.

Gallas-Touré is a top class centre back partnership, just a worry that Gallas might pick up a few more injuries over the course of the season. Senderos is Cr@p

2nd goal perhaps demonstrated one thing Saha is still important for us despite having Tevez and Rooney.

Parks lives wrote:

Rosy wrote:

robert wrote:Dissapointing is an understatement. When you carve out leads against such teams, closing them out is important because this is what Champions league trophy runs are made off, we have just demonstrated why twice in 1 match we can't fucking do it.

Give the opposition some credit.

He is.

You seem to have been spoiling for a fight from the get go.

No I just thought Man U didn't deserve there lead after the first half and Anderson behaved like a little $h!t which annoyed me. I commented on an excellent Man U move in the second half and agreed that a draw was a fair result. I simply suggested that Arsenal caoming back was a credit to them and not because Man U can't hold onto a lead. Sorry but I don't see why I should see the game from a Man U perspective just because you do.

Kimbo wrote:

COTR wrote:

Kimbo wrote:Christ, those Manx love their theatrics eh?

Fergie should recieve a lengthy touchline ban for his theatrics during the game. either that or keep him off the wine for a while. evra and anderson are hateful c**ts

I thought Ronaldo didn't dive anymore? Confounded. And I thought Vidic was supposed to be nails , he looked like a beached trout wriggling around on the ground after one corner, then he realised he wasn't getting anything and got up.

Well of course ronaldo dives all the time. The united fans just think he has improved because he only does it once or twice a game instead 30 times like he used to

Vidic made adebayor look like tyson gay. It would be a great race between him and hyypia

Dark Savante wrote:2nd goal perhaps demonstrated one thing Saha is still important for us despite having Tevez and Rooney.

He was very good when he came on.

Worst player on the pitch was Giggs. I thought Saha would be on for him. Him being on the pitch helped us a lot.

What an utter shite performance. We were dreadful going forward in my opinion. Tevez and Ronaldo were completely non existent. Poor defending for both of their goals.

A completely justified result (although Arsenal definitely played the superior football, they were at home).

Did any Arsenal fans think when Wenger brought on Gilberto and Eduardo for Hleb and Rosicky?

Soon after you went 2-1 down and didn't look like getting an equaliser.

FFS what a disappointment why do we keep conceding these late goals against Arsenal, I am so annoyed. The whole defence went to sleep for both their goals.

I dont know why SAF didnt bring Saha on earlier we looked so much better with him on the pitch.

Rooney was fantastic - even though he missed THAT header- like he always is against Arsenal, Anderson was excellent in the first half, but faded in the second half (we really needed Scholes during that period), Evra also played really well and was excellent going forward. Ronaldo got a goal and an assist but was pretty quiet. during the game.

PS if Rooney hadnt scored would it have been a red card for Gallas and a penalty?

shazlx wrote:Worst player on the pitch was Giggs. I thought Saha would be on for him. Him being on the pitch helped us a lot.

Nani > Giggs nowadays, SAF seems scared of playing Nani in these big games.

Owen wrote:

shazlx wrote:Worst player on the pitch was Giggs. I thought Saha would be on for him. Him being on the pitch helped us a lot.

Nani > Giggs nowadays, SAF seems scared of playing Nani in these big games.

Well there's a danger that he might go missing. Giggs has a lot more experience, although picking Nani in hindsight would have been the better choice.

Batman wrote:Did any Arsenal fans think when Wenger brought on Gilberto and Eduardo for Hleb and Rosicky?

Soon after you went 2-1 down and didn't look like getting an equaliser.

I wanst happy at all with the substitutions.

Tweedle wrote:

Owen wrote:

shazlx wrote:Worst player on the pitch was Giggs. I thought Saha would be on for him. Him being on the pitch helped us a lot.

Nani > Giggs nowadays, SAF seems scared of playing Nani in these big games.

Well there's a danger that he might go missing. Giggs has a lot more experience, although picking Nani in hindsight would have been the better choice.

Giggs goes missing everytime he plays.

As for Tevez, he might as well have not played today, I honestly didn't think he was when I entered the pub late and we got to half time.

Hlebadinho wrote:

Batman wrote:Did any Arsenal fans think when Wenger brought on Gilberto and Eduardo for Hleb and Rosicky?

Soon after you went 2-1 down and didn't look like getting an equaliser.

I wanst happy at all with the substitutions.

Really? I though bringing on Walcott for Eboué was a good move. Didn't like the other two substitutions at all though!

robert wrote:

Rosy wrote:

robert wrote:Dissapointing is an understatement. When you carve out leads against such teams, closing them out is important because this is what Champions league trophy runs are made off, we have just demonstrated why twice in 1 match we can't fucking do it.

Give the opposition some credit.

Who cares if they played like fucking 1960s Madrid, closing out big teams that are the best in attacking s what winning the CL is about and again we are incapable of that.

You have to be realistic. If it was that easy then the game wouldn't be worth playing or watching.

Owen wrote:

shazlx wrote:Worst player on the pitch was Giggs. I thought Saha would be on for him. Him being on the pitch helped us a lot.

Nani > Giggs nowadays, SAF seems scared of playing Nani in these big games.

You're very lucky you have Rooney and Ronaldo

Rez wrote:FFS what a disappointment why do we keep conceding these late goals against Arsenal, I am so annoyed. The whole defence went to sleep for both their goals.

I dont know why SAF didnt bring Saha on earlier we looked so much better with him on the pitch.

Rooney was fantastic - even though he missed THAT header- like he always is against Arsenal, Anderson was excellent in the first half, but faded in the second half (we really needed Scholes during that period), Evra also played really well and was excellent going forward. Ronaldo got a goal and an assist but was pretty quiet. during the game.

PS if Rooney hadnt scored would it have been a red card for Gallas and a penalty?

I doubt the referee would have seen it to be honest. It all happened very quickly. And he didnt giver anything when the ball hit Hargreaves arm which was far more obvious.

COTR wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

COTR wrote:

Kimbo wrote:Christ, those Manx love their theatrics eh?

Fergie should recieve a lengthy touchline ban for his theatrics during the game. either that or keep him off the wine for a while. evra and anderson are hateful c**ts

I thought Ronaldo didn't dive anymore? Confounded. And I thought Vidic was supposed to be nails , he looked like a beached trout wriggling around on the ground after one corner, then he realised he wasn't getting anything and got up.

Well of course ronaldo dives all the time. The united fans just think he has improved because he only does it once or twice a game instead 30 times like he used to

Vidic made adebayor look like tyson gay. It would be a great race between him and hyypia

I'd like to know how many rolls Evra did after that... errr... challenge(?) from Walcott towards the end.

One thing is Arsene Arsenal has learned that playing route one at times doesnt mean that you are playing negative football it is just another way of attack , noticed this last season against us too.

Tweedle wrote:

Owen wrote:

shazlx wrote:Worst player on the pitch was Giggs. I thought Saha would be on for him. Him being on the pitch helped us a lot.

Nani > Giggs nowadays, SAF seems scared of playing Nani in these big games.

Well there's a danger that he might go missing. Giggs has a lot more experience, although picking Nani in hindsight would have been the better choice.

A danger he might go missing vs a certainty he will go missing. hmm seems a difficult choice.

Rez wrote:FFS what a disappointment why do we keep conceding these late goals against Arsenal, I am so annoyed. The whole defence went to sleep for both their goals.

I dont know why SAF didnt bring Saha on earlier we looked so much better with him on the pitch.

Rooney was fantastic - even though he missed THAT header- like he always is against Arsenal, Anderson was excellent in the first half, but faded in the second half (we really needed Scholes during that period), Evra also played really well and was excellent going forward. Ronaldo got a goal and an assist but was pretty quiet. during the game.

PS if Rooney hadnt scored would it have been a red card for Gallas and a penalty?

No more than the ball to hand against Hargreaves to be fair.

Rosy every fan is biased and will add some perspective wrt his team in his views.

Rez wrote:FFS what a disappointment why do we keep conceding these late goals against Arsenal, I am so annoyed. The whole defence went to sleep for both their goals.

I dont know why SAF didnt bring Saha on earlier we looked so much better with him on the pitch.

Rooney was fantastic - even though he missed THAT header- like he always is against Arsenal, Anderson was excellent in the first half, but faded in the second half (we really needed Scholes during that period), Evra also played really well and was excellent going forward. Ronaldo got a goal and an assist but was pretty quiet. during the game.

PS if Rooney hadnt scored would it have been a red card for Gallas and a penalty?

It was an O.G so I doubt rooney will get the goal

I don't think any united player played particularly well. you just grinded out the result and got a few goals on the counter attack

Arsenal are just a very hard team to look good against because they keep the ball so brilliantly