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    Post by shazlx Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:31 pm

    Rabbit wrote:
    shazlx wrote:lol! Hleb, the best dribbler in the league. pirat


    Lacks the pace or skill to go past people.




    You see, in terms of your argument, you have to accept this as valid, or admit you've offered nothing to this discussion. What a twat you look right now.
    lol! lol! As entertaining as you are arguing with others over nothing, I don't have the stomach to muscle with you. I'm not gonna play this game with you, you can officially claim this argument as won. Rose Hug
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    Post by The Pröfessör Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:31 pm

    Rabbit wrote:
    Agooner wrote:
    Rabbit wrote:
    Agooner wrote:
    Rabbit wrote:Pederson and Bentley both score wondergoals, the kind Hleb can only dream of.

    You're an absolute cretin. Don't ever talk about football again, please, you embarrass your club, your race and your species with EVERY single word...

    says the man who thinks Bentley and Pedersen take men on.

    Says the man who said Eboue was the best rightback in the CL...

    voted by uefa, not me.

    From the book of Puro:

    lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!

    could someone please post here the 2005/2006 CL team?
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    Post by shazlx Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:32 pm

    Krimbo wrote:
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    Hats off to Jamie, the only one there not dressed like a clown. <Ale>
    The girls are decent. Smile Razz

    Jamies bird is wearing a sort of Toga. Who goes to a wedding in a fucking toga?
    Nice legs though. ok
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:33 pm

    Agooner wrote:
    Rabbit wrote:
    Agooner wrote:
    Rabbit wrote:
    Agooner wrote:
    Rabbit wrote:Pederson and Bentley both score wondergoals, the kind Hleb can only dream of.

    You're an absolute cretin. Don't ever talk about football again, please, you embarrass your club, your race and your species with EVERY single word...

    says the man who thinks Bentley and Pedersen take men on.

    Says the man who said Eboue was the best rightback in the CL...

    voted by uefa, not me.

    From the book of Puro:

    lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!

    could someone please post here the 2005/2006 CL team?


    Agooner flies past the point just like a suicide pilot missing his target...
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    Post by Roger Hunt Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:34 pm

    Krimbo wrote: Jamies bird is wearing a sort of Toga. Who goes to a wedding in a fucking toga?

    Easy access for a bunk-up in the cloakroom ok

    Plus - you know you would.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:36 pm

    1. Spurs

    Good to watch: Pompey, Villa, Blackburn, Citizens, Man Utd (what Parky said about the bond).

    Blah, blah, Blah.

    19.5) Arsenal & Newcastle.
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    Post by Isco Benny Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:39 pm

    Bentley is a skillfull lad. I dont agree with the Arsenal boys at all.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:41 pm

    he is skillful, but as one of them said he's no pace merchant so doesn't go past a man too regularly but that doesn't stop him getting crosses in. i forgive them when you have saints on a wind up its easy to get sidetracked
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:42 pm

    The Real Martin Troll wrote:Bentley is a skillfull lad. I dont agree with the Arsenal boys at all.

    Very skilful guy - infact If he kept his mouth shut and been patient, he'd be in the Arsenal team instead of them signing one of Hleb or Rosicky.

    Arsenal fans delude themselves into thinking that every single one of their cast-offs are $h!t. They'll be right about Walcott in 3 years once they've seen the light...
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    Post by Isco Benny Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:45 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:he is skillful, but as one of them said he's no pace merchant so doesn't go past a man too regularly but that doesn't stop him getting crosses in. i forgive them when you have saints on a wind up its easy to get sidetracked

    No, he isnt particularly quick, however he is two footed and very good on the ball. Not a direct winger in the sense of knocking it past a player than running onto it, he is more canny than that- hence why there have been calls for him to play in the centre.

    His performance against the Italian u21's at Wembley was, for 70 minutes, glorious to watch.

    Certainly in my mind good enough to play a big part for Arsenal were he stil there, who have never really played with traditional wingers anyway.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:45 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:he is skillful, but as one of them said he's no pace merchant so doesn't go past a man too regularly but that doesn't stop him getting crosses in. i forgive them when you have saints on a wind up its easy to get sidetracked


    Have a look over the thread again and see who is on the wind up. I merely offered an opinion in the first instance. Then two Arsenal fans show up being aggressive, mocking and sarcastic. I respond in like fashion, beat them at their own game and they f@ck off. Then you turn up and try to pin the whole thing on me.

    You are a weak man Frank. Grow the f@ck up, and stick some sprouts down your pants so you at least look like you've got some balls.
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    Post by shazlx Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:47 pm

    The Real Martin Troll wrote:Bentley is a skillfull lad. I dont agree with the Arsenal boys at all.
    I'm not comparing him to your average PL player or even the likes of Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Jenas. I'm comparing him to the elite e.i. Arteta, Anderson, Nani, Berbatov, Hleb, Van Persie, J.Cole. For example in terms of skill, DMs like Mikel and Lassana Diarra have better close control and ball manipulation than him.


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    Post by shazlx Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:47 pm

    The Real Martin Troll wrote:Bentley is a skillfull lad. I dont agree with the Arsenal boys at all.
    I'm not comparing him to your average PL player or even the likes of Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Jenas. I'm comparing him to the elite e.i. Arteta, Anderson, Nani, Berbatov, Hleb, Van Persie, J.Cole. For example in terms of skill, DMs like Mikel and Lassana Diarra have better close control and ball manipulation than him.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:48 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    The Real Martin Troll wrote:Bentley is a skillfull lad. I dont agree with the Arsenal boys at all.
    I'm not comparing him to your average PL player or even the likes of Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Jenas. I'm comparing him to the elite e.i. Arteta, Anderson, Nani, Berbatov, Hleb, Van Persie. For example in terms of skill, DMs like Mikel and Lassana Diarra have better close control and ball manipulation than him.


    shazlx in the first place wrote:I watch some Blackburn Uefa cup games and Bentley hopelessly tries to go past people. He neither has the pace or the skill to go past players. What he does have is good technique which allows him to put in good crosses consistently and have good shots from distance.

    You're either a liar, or you've radically changed your mind in less than 10 minutes.
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:49 pm

    I agree with the recent comments about Bentley, I think he is a talented player and has plenty of skill. As I've said before I think moving away from Arsenal did him a lot of good. Not making it at Highbury made him grow up and mature from the arrogant player he was at Arsenal and Norwich. He was on the way to wasting his talent, but he has been impressive since joining Blackburn. I definitely think he is better than MGP, who as it has already been said, can be a bit of a MOTD player. Does lots of spectacular things but is probably not as consistent as he should be.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:53 pm

    Sheffield gunner wrote:I agree with the recent comments about Bentley, I think he is a talented player and has plenty of skill. As I've said before I think moving away from Arsenal did him a lot of good. Not making it at Highbury made him grow up and mature from the arrogant player he was at Arsenal and Norwich. He was on the way to wasting his talent, but he has been impressive since joining Blackburn.

    I think his youthful arrogance combined with never getting a game at Arsenal made it impossible for him to continue his career there. Since going to Blackburn he's been one of the most consistent AM players in the league.

    I definitely think he is better than MGP, who as it has already been said, can be a bit of a MOTD player. Does lots of spectacular things but is probably not as consistent as he should be.

    Probably true, but this is a thread about which teams you like to watch, not which players you'd sign if you were a manager (as some people who shall remain nameless insist on treating it). A player who about half a dozen times a season does something absolutely draw jopping is more fun to watch than a consistently better player with a more simple, predictable but more effective game.
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    Post by shazlx Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:55 pm

    Rabbit wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    The Real Martin Troll wrote:Bentley is a skillfull lad. I dont agree with the Arsenal boys at all.
    I'm not comparing him to your average PL player or even the likes of Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Jenas. I'm comparing him to the elite e.i. Arteta, Anderson, Nani, Berbatov, Hleb, Van Persie. For example in terms of skill, DMs like Mikel and Lassana Diarra have better close control and ball manipulation than him.


    shazlx in the first place wrote:I watch some Blackburn Uefa cup games and Bentley hopelessly tries to go past people. He neither has the pace or the skill to go past players. What he does have is good technique which allows him to put in good crosses consistently and have good shots from distance.

    You're either a liar, or you've radically changed your mind in less than 10 minutes.
    Not at all. In terms of football we all talk generally, well I do, so he may go past players occasionally but generally he struggles in the games that I've seen.

    To add to that, you average PL players are even worse than Bentley when it comes to skill and certainly none of Gerrad, Lampard, Barry, Jenas have better skill than Bentley. Please show me the contradiction.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:57 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    Rabbit wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    The Real Martin Troll wrote:Bentley is a skillfull lad. I dont agree with the Arsenal boys at all.
    I'm not comparing him to your average PL player or even the likes of Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Jenas. I'm comparing him to the elite e.i. Arteta, Anderson, Nani, Berbatov, Hleb, Van Persie. For example in terms of skill, DMs like Mikel and Lassana Diarra have better close control and ball manipulation than him.


    shazlx in the first place wrote:I watch some Blackburn Uefa cup games and Bentley hopelessly tries to go past people. He neither has the pace or the skill to go past players. What he does have is good technique which allows him to put in good crosses consistently and have good shots from distance.

    You're either a liar, or you've radically changed your mind in less than 10 minutes.
    Not at all. In terms of football we all talk generally, well I do, so he may go past players occasionally but generally he struggles in the games that I've seen.

    To add to that, you average PL players are even worse than Bentley when it comes to skill and certainly none of Gerrad, Lampard, Barry, Jenas have better skill than Bentley. Please show me the contradiction.

    Bentley hopelessly tries to go past people.

    vs

    he may go past players
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:59 pm

    Basically, I'm looking for you to admit here that you were being hyperbolic in your initial criticism of Betnley because you were on the wind up because you couldn't stand my daring to call Arsenal predictable and boring. Your sensitivities surrounding your club are such that any such statement must be met with resounding contradiction, so much so that you went completely overboard in criticising a player I had implicitly praised.

    We all know this is what happened. Anyone with half a brain and the words to speak could tell you this. Accept it and move on.
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    Post by Deano Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:03 pm

    Is this in order of who I like to watch...or who I like as clubs?
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    Post by Jaime Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:17 pm

    1. Newcastle United -- started liking them after they ensured Barcelona finished bottom of their group in the 1997/98 CL plus they had Tino Asprilla who was one of my favorites.

    2. Manchester United -- we always have great ties when we play them in Europe.

    3. Tottenham -- I really liked them back in the late 80s when they had Waddle, Gascoigne, and Lineker...plus they where white shirts.

    4. Liverpool -- Mostly for McManaman

    5. Chelsea -- Because now there is another club for people to b!tch about "buying" titles.

    6. Manchester City -- the Oasis fan in me likes to see them do well.

    7. West Ham United -- because of the movie with Frodo and for Deano

    8. Everton -- I don't know, I like Arteta...

    9. Derby -- they're rubbish now but I enjoyed them back in the day when they had Dean Saunders, Mark Wright, and Peter Shilton.

    10. Arsenal -- Hated them for selling us Anelka, but they got back on my good side for selling Overmars and Petit to Barcelona. They would go up to two if they sell us Cesc Biggrin

    11. Blackburn -- no real reasons for 11-15
    12. Aston Villa
    13. Birmingham City
    14. Portsmouth
    15. Wigan

    16. Reading -- don't like them because they ripped of QPR's shirt. Or maybe it's the other way around, I don't really know but I still don't like them.

    17. Middlesborough -- I guess since I like Newcastle I should put them near the bottom (apologies to Coop)

    18. Sunderland -- see Middlesborough

    19./20. Fulham & Bolton (tie) -- Don't really have a reason but I just can't stand either of them. Would be in favor of them both being relegated.
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    Post by Kimbo Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:19 pm

    Jaime wrote:1. Newcastle United -- started liking them after they ensured Barcelona finished bottom of their group in the 1997/98 CL plus they had Tino Asprilla who was one of my favorites.

    Tino. <Ale> A very underrated player.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:19 pm

    Jaime wrote:10. Arsenal -- Hated them for selling us Anelka, but they got back on my good side for selling Overmars and Petit to Barcelona. They would go up to two if they sell us Cesc Biggrin
    henry sale must be going down well too, and at least they didn't sell YOU Reyes Doh
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    Post by Isco Benny Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:23 pm

    Krimbo wrote:
    Jaime wrote:1. Newcastle United -- started liking them after they ensured Barcelona finished bottom of their group in the 1997/98 CL plus they had Tino Asprilla who was one of my favorites.

    Tino. <Ale> A very underrated player.

    Mad as a hatter. Brilliant.

    Newcastle were extremely likeable in those days for their gung ho football. Shame they've gone downhill ever since <Ale>
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    Post by Kimbo Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:24 pm

    The Real Martin Troll wrote:
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    Jaime wrote:1. Newcastle United -- started liking them after they ensured Barcelona finished bottom of their group in the 1997/98 CL plus they had Tino Asprilla who was one of my favorites.

    Tino. <Ale> A very underrated player.

    Mad as a hatter. Brilliant.

    Newcastle were extremely likeable in those days for their gung ho football. Shame they've gone downhill ever since <Ale>

    Spurs on the other hand have stayed at the same mediocre level. Salute
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    Post by Jaime Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:25 pm

    La Taberna de Francisco wrote:
    Jaime wrote:10. Arsenal -- Hated them for selling us Anelka, but they got back on my good side for selling Overmars and Petit to Barcelona. They would go up to two if they sell us Cesc Biggrin
    henry sale must be going down well too, and at least they didn't sell YOU Reyes Doh

    Yeah, I've always sort of hated Henry deep down so it's fitting that he goes to the club I hate the most. Now it's hate-hate.

    Poor Reyes, finally gets a start and he's still rubbish. Razz


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    Post by shazlx Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:25 pm

    Rabbit wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    Rabbit wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    The Real Martin Troll wrote:Bentley is a skillfull lad. I dont agree with the Arsenal boys at all.
    I'm not comparing him to your average PL player or even the likes of Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Jenas. I'm comparing him to the elite e.i. Arteta, Anderson, Nani, Berbatov, Hleb, Van Persie. For example in terms of skill, DMs like Mikel and Lassana Diarra have better close control and ball manipulation than him.


    shazlx in the first place wrote:I watch some Blackburn Uefa cup games and Bentley hopelessly tries to go past people. He neither has the pace or the skill to go past players. What he does have is good technique which allows him to put in good crosses consistently and have good shots from distance.

    You're either a liar, or you've radically changed your mind in less than 10 minutes.
    Not at all. In terms of football we all talk generally, well I do, so he may go past players occasionally but generally he struggles in the games that I've seen.

    To add to that, you average PL players are even worse than Bentley when it comes to skill and certainly none of Gerrad, Lampard, Barry, Jenas have better skill than Bentley. Please show me the contradiction.

    Bentley hopelessly tries to go past people.

    vs

    he may go past players
    Honestly Saints, do you really care? Seriously, I won't bother with you any more.

    PS. the delay was because my internet is playing up.


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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:26 pm

    shazlx wrote:Seriously, I won't bother with you any more.
    ok
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    Post by The Pröfessör Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:32 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    The Real Martin Troll wrote:Bentley is a skillfull lad. I dont agree with the Arsenal boys at all.
    I'm not comparing him to your average PL player or even the likes of Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Jenas. I'm comparing him to the elite e.i. Arteta, Anderson, Nani, Berbatov, Hleb, Van Persie, J.Cole. For example in terms of skill, DMs like Mikel and Lassana Diarra have better close control and ball manipulation than him.

    Bentley has a good technique, decent skills, but not good enough skills to enable him go past his man. That is a big disadvantage to his game since he isn't the fastest.

    Thing about this board is, any player with great crossing ability is overhyped. You see things like "X is $h!t and overrated because he can't cross for shit" whereas to the outside world, an ability to cross the ball is seen as a bonus for a winger or a fullback, it's not a requirement. Qualities such as ability to go past a man are far more important in the modern game, it's a quality every attacking player MUST have.

    Oh i should make it clear, am not a fan that starts dissing a player as soon as he leaves my club, i support all of them and wish them all the best( except cashley).
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:33 pm

    shazlx wrote:Honestly Saints, do you really care?

    Not much.

    Seriously, I won't bother with you any more.

    Boo fuckin' hoo. That's the second time you've threatened to walk out of this conversation, as though I'm sat here, blade at my wrist, dependent on your continuing to respond.

    Like I said, accept it, move on.

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