Rafa to poach another kid

It's true even our flops are amazing. Forlan la liga top scorer with 25 goals in his first season
bellion 10 goals already this season in france
rossi although not quite a flop... tearing it up in la liga after doing so in seria a

Christmas Glenn Hysén wrote:

L r d wrote:

Christmas Glenn Hysén wrote:lrd, Rossi was at Parma, Pique at Barcelona. Hardly obscurity. Everyone knew about Ronaldo, Houlier had an eye on him but wanted to wait a year, he was already in the national squad and was a wonderkid on Chmpionship Manager. You don't pay £13m for a nobody.

Your double standards are hilarious!

Ha sure thing. Well you change the view of the topic. Rossi was of course mostly unknown and fergie saw him spotted the talent and got him ditto pique. Now seeing talent and buying it a la ronaldo anderson nani rooney also very good, doesn't matter if you spent a lot all were big risks and all look like being big success stories. While Rafa...pennant babel not you know exactly happening.

Short memory. Ronaldo was a laughing stock when he turned up, proving Houlier right that it was a year too soon for him.If you write Babel off after a handful of appearances then you are an idiot.

according to who?

Difference between Ronaldo and Babel is that i don't think Sporting fans thought Ronaldo was $h!t, the same cannot be said about Ajax fans and Babel. But i could be wrong because i am not perfect.

Batman wrote:

Christmas Glenn Hysén wrote:

L r d wrote:

Christmas Glenn Hysén wrote:lrd, Rossi was at Parma, Pique at Barcelona. Hardly obscurity. Everyone knew about Ronaldo, Houlier had an eye on him but wanted to wait a year, he was already in the national squad and was a wonderkid on Chmpionship Manager. You don't pay £13m for a nobody.

Your double standards are hilarious!

Ha sure thing. Well you change the view of the topic. Rossi was of course mostly unknown and fergie saw him spotted the talent and got him ditto pique. Now seeing talent and buying it a la ronaldo anderson nani rooney also very good, doesn't matter if you spent a lot all were big risks and all look like being big success stories. While Rafa...pennant babel not you know exactly happening.

Short memory. Ronaldo was a laughing stock when he turned up, proving Houlier right that it was a year too soon for him.If you write Babel off after a handful of appearances then you are an idiot.

according to who?

Difference between Ronaldo and Babel is that i don't think Sporting fans thought Ronaldo was $h!t, the same cannot be said about Ajax fans and Babel. But i could be wrong because i am not perfect.

Babel .. why did Liverpool sign him,

Who is the new roberto carlos? if it was upto me then Richardson would have been sold two seasons ago, but SAF likes to give british players a chance. SAF knows best because we got £5m for him.

The differene is that Rafa is signing kids to replace the kids already in the reserves. Nani and Anderson have not been signed to replace Richardson and Eagles but instead to replace Giggs and Scholes.

Ask lrd who the new roberto carlos is batman. Nobody else seems to have heard of him

There is no difference here apart from in your mind. Fergie is signing these brazilian kids and they will directly impact upon the british kids chances in your reserves. I also assume dong is not english. He certainly doesn't look it. Rafa is doing the same thing. The british kids have been getting chances under rafa anyway. Anderson has a great chance of making it, guthrie was played for a few seasons but is now starting for bolton, Martin is now our no 2 keeper for most games and Hobbs has played plenty of first team games. It is up to the kids to be good enough to make the step up

Nani > Babel

Nani = portugese not british

[color=red]more competition for what? to play a game in reserve league/cup? Rafa has said that the reserve league is a very poor standard

I have never taken you for being stupid before batman. More competition = higher standard = more improvement in the players. If it's harder to get into the team they will have to work harder to make the step up. This is what rafa wants. therefore the english players (the best ones anyway) will actually benefit from having these imports to compete with. Only the strongest will ever make it to the first team anyway

If you steal something then get caught and have to pay a fine, then you are still a thief.

The laws are the laws batmobile. It can't be stealing if it is within the law. Were pique and rossi stolen ?

It is when the owners and most Liverpool fans want immediate success, you still need a good winger imo.

since when did you become the spokesman for liverpool fc, it's fans and it's owners

I have actually been reading the exact opposite from the owners. They want rafa to be doing exactly what he is doing and try to build for the long term future of the club rather than one or two glorious years. They have also backed him significantly for now anyway.

Every club and every owner wants success Batman. What the hell is your point ? Try again

Maybe if your manager was Arsene Wenger.

Wenger is now the only manager in the world who can buy young players and enable them to come good in three or four years time

How many Rafa signings have improved as players during their time at Liverpool? i can't think of many.

Garcia
Reina
Arbeloa
Agger
King momo
Crouchinho
Carson
Alonso
Mascherano

All have been a big success with varying degrees of improvement


you were talking about the kids anyhow Batmobile

you can criticise his policy in three to four years time. doing it now is just ridiculous

Christmas Glenn Hysén wrote:

L r d wrote:

Christmas Turkey wrote:Carson was a Benitez signing who was pretty unknown - England keeper now.

He wasnt unknown though. He was wanted by numerous clubs and Liverpool paid more and got him. For me this is not spotting young talent, i mean like wenger getting cesc. An unknown to the majority type.

As i said in my original post, i think Benitez just gets as many as possible and then hopes a few turn out to be very good and gives them a chance, if it doesnt work get rid of them and buy loads more. He has a similar mentallity with the first team.

good point. Wheras Fergus found Pique playing barefoot on the beach. It's amazing, given Rafa's so many obvious flaws, that he has been so successful. The nerve of the man to sign players, and then how dare he get rid of the ones that aren't working. It's almost as if he doesn't want to fail.

Is Fergus any different? Really? Ok he dragged Ronaldo, Rooney, Louis Anderson and Narnar from obscuirity and spotted the potential that no one else did, how about Ding Dong Fanmagnet, Djemba Djemba Djemba, Cruyff, Nevland, Blanc, Bosnich, etc etc etc

In lrd land Carson was a superstar and ronaldo a total unknown

I love this thread

Raifael wrote:

Batman wrote:

Christmas Glenn Hysén wrote:

L r d wrote:

Christmas Glenn Hysén wrote:lrd, Rossi was at Parma, Pique at Barcelona. Hardly obscurity. Everyone knew about Ronaldo, Houlier had an eye on him but wanted to wait a year, he was already in the national squad and was a wonderkid on Chmpionship Manager. You don't pay £13m for a nobody.

Your double standards are hilarious!

Ha sure thing. Well you change the view of the topic. Rossi was of course mostly unknown and fergie saw him spotted the talent and got him ditto pique. Now seeing talent and buying it a la ronaldo anderson nani rooney also very good, doesn't matter if you spent a lot all were big risks and all look like being big success stories. While Rafa...pennant babel not you know exactly happening.

Short memory. Ronaldo was a laughing stock when he turned up, proving Houlier right that it was a year too soon for him.If you write Babel off after a handful of appearances then you are an idiot.

according to who?

Difference between Ronaldo and Babel is that i don't think Sporting fans thought Ronaldo was $h!t, the same cannot be said about Ajax fans and Babel. But i could be wrong because i am not perfect.

Babel .. why did Liverpool sign him,

Because rafa is hopeless with young talent, i think this thread has proven as much.

L r d wrote:

Because rafa is hopeless with young talent, i think this thread has proven as much.

Lrd land strikes again

It's a ridiculous non-thread that has veered wildly off topic and turned into another excuse for United fans to have a go at Rafa, is this going to happen every time the papers link us with a player who is under 21? The guy in question this time is 19 ffs. Knowing the mentality of some of the United fans, it probably will. The hypocracy is that Fergus has been signing and failing with young talent for years. Belgian feeder clubs full of Africans, links with numerous sides with a view to creaming off the best young players. The number of failures far outweighs the success stories, as with any club.

I would like to see a realistic figure of the number of youngsters Rafa has poached from overseas. I know his original acquisitions of (English) Hobbs, Martin and Anderson are highly rated 2 years on. Who's to say that the latest signings wont be on the fringes too in a couple of seasons.

Let me tell you something, who was Fabio? some 16 yr old kid nobody in the world knew about. Him and his brother were signed up by sir alex. 1 year later he has an amazing u17 tournament and now he's rated in the top 50 young players on the planet. Deal with that.

L r d wrote:Let me tell you something, who was Fabio? some 16 yr old kid nobody in the world knew about. Him and his brother were signed up by sir alex. 1 year later he has an amazing u17 tournament and now he's rated in the top 50 young players on the planet. Deal with that.

We know you have been on the windup throughout this thread lard but this is taking your whole Lrd land thing a a little bit too far

deal with that

L r d wrote:Let me tell you something, who was Fabio? some 16 yr old kid nobody in the world knew about. Him and his brother were signed up by sir alex. 1 year later he has an amazing u17 tournament and now he's rated in the top 50 young players on the planet. Deal with that.

Where is the plot lrd?

COTR wrote:

L r d wrote:Let me tell you something, who was Fabio? some 16 yr old kid nobody in the world knew about. Him and his brother were signed up by sir alex. 1 year later he has an amazing u17 tournament and now he's rated in the top 50 young players on the planet. Deal with that.

We know you have been on the windup throughout this thread lard but this is taking your whole Lrd land thing a a little bit too far

Lardy lives in a magical land where everything Ferguson touches turns to gold. Lardys job is to clean SAF's buttocks with his tongue until it is shiny. Unfortunately, Fergie talks out of his arse and that causes quite a lot of mess, but Lardy doesn't mind. He loves his job. In Lardy land, children aren't taught numeracy or literacy at school...They learn that Rafa Benitez is bad, and that where there's any possible chance to abuse him, they must. Lardy doesn't have much of a social life in this land, as there isn't much time for such trivial activities while there's arse cleaning and Rafa abusing to do.

We mustn't mock him, as he is yet to discover the glories of life outside his little box.

Nonsense ct, i often bashed fergie when he played smith in central midfield. I just say it how it is. That's the reality of the situation.
Cotr is extremely wummish and biased, glenn doesn't really have a clue, and you try your best, but none of you tell it as it is.

L r d wrote:Nonsense ct, i often bashed fergie when he played smith in central midfield. I just say it how it is. That's the reality of the situation.
Cotr is extremely wummish and biased, glenn doesn't really have a clue, and you try your best, but none of you tell it as it is.

I'm in stitches here lrd. That was comic genius. I love Lrd land

lrd's like a dark version of Nutters, he's a clown - except that his pretend bucket of water doesn't contain confetti, it contains broken glass and beetles.

Christmas Glenn Hysén wrote:lrd's like a dark version of Nutters, he's a clown - except that his pretend bucket of water doesn't contain confetti, it contains broken glass and beetles.

Brilliant hysen

Stunningly accurate

Only two clowns on this thread. You can laugh at each others innaccurate viewpoints on reality and football all you wish. Everything i said is true.

L r d wrote:Only two clowns on this thread.

A bit harsh on batman lrd. I wouldn't group him into the same category as yourself after one bad day of posting

L r d wrote:Everything i said is true.

who was Fabio? some 16 yr old kid nobody in the world knew about.

Nobody knew who foster was

Rossi wasnt even $h!t at newcastle

Rafa has signed about 300

I am going to go for this one glenda

L r d wrote:It's true even our flops are amazing:

In 18 months at Old Trafford, Djemba-Djemba never fully established himself as a player capable of filling captain Roy Keane's shoes. It did not help Djemba-Djemba's cause that United were in a period of transition and he was constantly being rotated in and out of the team with a number of other potential suitors to Keane's midfield mantle, as coach Sir Alex Ferguson searched for a worthy successor to his captain.

Djemba-Djemba was sold to Aston Villa in the January 2005 transfer window for a fee of £1,500,000. However, the move did little to restore the player's reputation as he found it difficult to move ahead of Gavin McCann and Steven Davis in Villa's midfield pecking order. A possible switch to La Liga in Spain has been speculated. After being played only once, as a late substitute, by new Villa manager Martin O'Neill on the first day of the 2006-2007 season, Djemba-Djemba was loaned out to Championship club Burnley for the remainder of the season in the January transfer window.

Djemba-Djemba made his first appearance for Burnley on January 13th 2007 against Southampton, playing the full 90 minutes. Early in his time at Turf Moor, Djemba-Djemba was sent off for the Lancashire side after a second bookable offence at Derby County; however he impressed with his skillful and effective play during his loan spell

Christmas Glenn Hysén wrote:

L r d wrote:Everything i said is true.

who was Fabio? some 16 yr old kid nobody in the world knew about.

Nobody knew who foster was

Rossi wasnt even $h!t at newcastle

Rafa has signed about 300

Nobody knew about fabio it's true. Some 16 yr old kid at a brazillian team.
Foster again largely unknown.
Rossi barely played for Newcastle, he did ok most of the times he did.
A slight exagerration, rafa has signed 290 players not 300.

COTR wrote:I am going to go for this one glenda

L r d wrote:It's true even our flops are amazing:

In 18 months at Old Trafford, Djemba-Djemba never fully established himself as a player capable of filling captain Roy Keane's shoes. It did not help Djemba-Djemba's cause that United were in a period of transition and he was constantly being rotated in and out of the team with a number of other potential suitors to Keane's midfield mantle, as coach Sir Alex Ferguson searched for a worthy successor to his captain.

Djemba-Djemba was sold to Aston Villa in the January 2005 transfer window for a fee of £1,500,000. However, the move did little to restore the player's reputation as he found it difficult to move ahead of Gavin McCann and Steven Davis in Villa's midfield pecking order. A possible switch to La Liga in Spain has been speculated. After being played only once, as a late substitute, by new Villa manager Martin O'Neill on the first day of the 2006-2007 season, Djemba-Djemba was loaned out to Championship club Burnley for the remainder of the season in the January transfer window.

Djemba-Djemba made his first appearance for Burnley on January 13th 2007 against Southampton, playing the full 90 minutes. Early in his time at Turf Moor, Djemba-Djemba was sent off for the Lancashire side after a second bookable offence at Derby County; however he impressed with his skillful and effective play during his loan spell

Young flops tearing up others league.

a la bellion, rossi, forlan. Just shows Fergie was spotted correct young talent even if they didn't make it here. Djemba was a duff signing, in 20 odd years you make a few.

Lrd,


If you really want to wind this lot up, start talking about Mark Gonzalez, labelled by the L'pool fans on here as their Cristiano Ronaldo...

L r d wrote:

Christmas Glenn Hysén wrote:

L r d wrote:Everything i said is true.

who was Fabio? some 16 yr old kid nobody in the world knew about.

Nobody knew who foster was

Rossi wasnt even $h!t at newcastle

Rafa has signed about 300

Nobody knew about fabio it's true. Some 16 yr old kid at a brazillian team.
Foster again largely unknown.
Rossi barely played for Newcastle, he did ok most of the times he did.
A slight exagerration, rafa has signed 290 players not 300.

The first two things are true, but Rossi was really really poor for Newcastle

Reindeer wrote:Lrd,


If you really want to wind this lot up, start talking about Mark Gonzalez, labelled by the L'pool fans on here as their Cristiano Ronaldo...

Pennant?

Reindeer wrote:Lrd,


If you really want to wind this lot up, start talking about Mark Gonzalez, labelled by the L'pool fans on here as their Cristiano Ronaldo...

Obi is not here anymore mate. You would have amazing success with him on that topic


Will you not join ranks with lrd and batman saints? Toying with them is way to simple

Owen wrote:

Reindeer wrote:Lrd,


If you really want to wind this lot up, start talking about Mark Gonzalez, labelled by the L'pool fans on here as their Cristiano Ronaldo...

Pennant?

Rafa wanted an alves

He was given a pennant


Not really his fault owen

L r d wrote:

Nobody knew about fabio it's true. Some 16 yr old kid at a brazillian team.

Teenage twins in the Fluminense first team left and right back, captain of peerless Brazilian youth team. Nobody knew about them lrd. Course

L r d wrote:Foster again largely unknown.

He's 24 and has played less that 75 competitive games. Fergus obviously couldn't spot how injury prone he is

L r d wrote:Rossi barely played for Newcastle, he did ok most of the times he did.

ok, as in I just had a massive ok in the toilet?

L r d wrote:A slight exagerration, rafa has signed 290 players not 300.

COTR wrote:

Owen wrote:

Reindeer wrote:Lrd,


If you really want to wind this lot up, start talking about Mark Gonzalez, labelled by the L'pool fans on here as their Cristiano Ronaldo...

Pennant?

Rafa wanted an alves

He was given a pennant


Not really his fault owen

Yeah right blame other things. There is numerous saints, Gonzales is just another, the list can go on and on where rafa is concerned. Imagine he lasted 20 years, how many would he have?
He wasnt tweedle...when did he play? He played about 6 times and 4 were in midfield.

Reindeer wrote:Lrd,


If you really want to wind this lot up, start talking about Mark Gonzalez, labelled by the L'pool fans on here as their Cristiano Ronaldo...

a

Obispo thought he could be our answer to Ronaldo, and I don't think it was a bad call at the time. Gonzalez never settled or reproduced his form he showed when onloan in Spain. I thought he would have come good in his 2nd season as do many overseas flair players. When on form his pace, trickery and penetration backs up Obi's suggestion.