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    Post by Tweesus Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:17 am

    The ONE thing our defence struggles against is pace and power - players like Drogba. Touré and Gallas are both reasonably powerful, have good positioning and pace to burn though.

    Do Milan have to deal with anything like Adebayor in Serie A? I doubt it....

    Could cause them some serious problems. This season he's almost been as good as Drogba was last season, arguably better in the league.
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    Post by gone Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:51 am

    Tweedle wrote:The ONE thing our defence struggles against is pace and power - players like Drogba. Touré and Gallas are both reasonably powerful, have good positioning and pace to burn though.

    Do Milan have to deal with anything like Adebayor in Serie A? I doubt it....

    Could cause them some serious problems. This season he's almost been as good as Drogba was last season, arguably better in the league.

    Ibra has power and pace.
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:55 am

    Gone wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:The ONE thing our defence struggles against is pace and power - players like Drogba. Touré and Gallas are both reasonably powerful, have good positioning and pace to burn though.

    Do Milan have to deal with anything like Adebayor in Serie A? I doubt it....

    Could cause them some serious problems. This season he's almost been as good as Drogba was last season, arguably better in the league.

    Ibra has power and pace.

    He does.

    Its a slightly different style to Adebayor though - he's certainly large and powerful but he doesn't push his weight around as much and doesn't have the willingness to work the channels that Adebayor has. Obviously he's got far better skill and technique though.

    Adebayor's technique is getting progressively better though.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:11 pm

    Amauri is a real handful for defenders in Serie A. Physically and technically he and Ibrahimovic are the closest players to be similar to Adebayor.

    I agree with Pierre in the fact that I think we will adopt a 4-5-1 approach in Europe again. That will certainly be the case at the San Siro. One of Adebayor's great strengths is the fact he is versitile in whatever formation is played. It is a real plus as not many other strikers in Europe have that in their locker.
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    Post by shazlx Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:49 pm

    Cesc wrote:Amauri is a real handful for defenders in Serie A. Physically and technically he and Ibrahimovic are the closest players to be similar to Adebayor.

    I agree with Pierre in the fact that I think we will adopt a 4-5-1 approach in Europe again. That will certainly be the case at the San Siro. One of Adebayor's great strengths is the fact he is versitile in whatever formation is played. It is a real plus as not many other strikers in Europe have that in their locker.
    I think it depends on who is fit. If RVP and Rosicky are fit then that formation is naturally fluid with forwards and midfielders moving around the place regardless of if it 451 or 442.
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    Post by gone Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:21 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Gone wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:The ONE thing our defence struggles against is pace and power - players like Drogba. Touré and Gallas are both reasonably powerful, have good positioning and pace to burn though.

    Do Milan have to deal with anything like Adebayor in Serie A? I doubt it....

    Could cause them some serious problems. This season he's almost been as good as Drogba was last season, arguably better in the league.

    Ibra has power and pace.

    He does.

    Its a slightly different style to Adebayor though - he's certainly large and powerful but he doesn't push his weight around as much and doesn't have the willingness to work the channels that Adebayor has. Obviously he's got far better skill and technique though.

    Adebayor's technique is getting progressively better though.

    Ok, but I don't think Adebayor the big problem for Milan. The game on the wings will be the key. Oddo and Janku can attack but are average in defence.
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    Post by Calidad Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:24 pm

    Gone wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    Gone wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:The ONE thing our defence struggles against is pace and power - players like Drogba. Touré and Gallas are both reasonably powerful, have good positioning and pace to burn though.

    Do Milan have to deal with anything like Adebayor in Serie A? I doubt it....

    Could cause them some serious problems. This season he's almost been as good as Drogba was last season, arguably better in the league.

    Ibra has power and pace.

    He does.

    Its a slightly different style to Adebayor though - he's certainly large and powerful but he doesn't push his weight around as much and doesn't have the willingness to work the channels that Adebayor has. Obviously he's got far better skill and technique though.

    Adebayor's technique is getting progressively better though.

    Ok, but I don't think Adebayor the big problem for Milan. The game on the wings will be the key. Oddo and Janku can attack but are average in defence.

    I disagree, I think Adebayor = ok

    Even if he's having a poor game, he's still a handful. I really don't think the likes of Hleb or Rosicky will cause as much trouble.

    Equally though, a fit (or half fit) + motivated Ronaldo is a handful as well.
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    Post by gone Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:25 pm

    Let's see how he does against the best CB in the world. And I mean Nesta.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:40 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Gone wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:The ONE thing our defence struggles against is pace and power - players like Drogba. Touré and Gallas are both reasonably powerful, have good positioning and pace to burn though.

    Do Milan have to deal with anything like Adebayor in Serie A? I doubt it....

    Could cause them some serious problems. This season he's almost been as good as Drogba was last season, arguably better in the league.

    Ibra has power and pace.

    He does.

    Its a slightly different style to Adebayor though - he's certainly large and powerful but he doesn't push his weight around as much and doesn't have the willingness to work the channels that Adebayor has. Obviously he's got far better skill and technique though.

    Adebayor's technique is getting progressively better though.

    Over the last few years Milan have dealt with Ibra, Adriano, Trezeguet, Vieri, Toni, Amauri, Lucarelli etc. all physical strikers.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:41 pm

    Gone wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    Gone wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:The ONE thing our defence struggles against is pace and power - players like Drogba. Touré and Gallas are both reasonably powerful, have good positioning and pace to burn though.

    Do Milan have to deal with anything like Adebayor in Serie A? I doubt it....

    Could cause them some serious problems. This season he's almost been as good as Drogba was last season, arguably better in the league.

    Ibra has power and pace.

    He does.

    Its a slightly different style to Adebayor though - he's certainly large and powerful but he doesn't push his weight around as much and doesn't have the willingness to work the channels that Adebayor has. Obviously he's got far better skill and technique though.

    Adebayor's technique is getting progressively better though.

    Ok, but I don't think Adebayor the big problem for Milan. The game on the wings will be the key. Oddo and Janku can attack but are average in defence.

    actually its been the opposite for Oddo this season, he's been great defence but his crossing has been horrible.
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:16 pm

    BoBo Vieri wrote:Over the last few years Milan have dealt with Ibra, Adriano, Trezeguet, Vieri, Toni, Amauri, Lucarelli etc. all physical strikers.

    None are like Adebayor though.

    He's got the perfect combination of movement, strength, pace and commitment.

    We'll see, but I think Milan's defenders are in for a shock.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:28 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    BoBo Vieri wrote:Over the last few years Milan have dealt with Ibra, Adriano, Trezeguet, Vieri, Toni, Amauri, Lucarelli etc. all physical strikers.

    None are like Adebayor though.

    He's got the perfect combination of movement, strength, pace and commitment.

    We'll see, but I think Milan's defenders are in for a shock.

    These kinds of things were uttered by Man U fans. Then, it was speed and how it would take the Milan defence by surprise.

    I have a feeling this tie will be decided by a moment of inspiration (Pirlo free-kick, Fabregas through ball etc.).

    I can't see more than 2-3 goals over both legs.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:30 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    BoBo Vieri wrote:Over the last few years Milan have dealt with Ibra, Adriano, Trezeguet, Vieri, Toni, Amauri, Lucarelli etc. all physical strikers.

    None are like Adebayor though.

    He's got the perfect combination of movement, strength, pace and commitment.

    We'll see, but I think Milan's defenders are in for a shock.

    These kinds of things were uttered by Man U fans. Then, it was speed and how it would take the Milan defence by surprise.

    I have a feeling this tie will be decided by a moment of inspiration (Pirlo free-kick, Fabregas through ball etc.).

    I can't see more than 2-3 goals over both legs.

    Any of the fans on here?
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:31 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    These kinds of things were uttered by Man U fans. Then, it was speed and how it would take the Milan defence by surprise.


    Well, you did concede three away from home. If we conceded three goals to you I'd be devastated.

    Injuries are nicely playing onto your hands at present. Our squad for tonight looks like it'll only have 5 first team regs in it.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:32 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    BoBo Vieri wrote:Over the last few years Milan have dealt with Ibra, Adriano, Trezeguet, Vieri, Toni, Amauri, Lucarelli etc. all physical strikers.

    None are like Adebayor though.

    He's got the perfect combination of movement, strength, pace and commitment.

    We'll see, but I think Milan's defenders are in for a shock.

    True, none of them are like him since all those players i mentioned are better than him Razz
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:34 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    These kinds of things were uttered by Man U fans. Then, it was speed and how it would take the Milan defence by surprise.


    Well, you did concede three away from home. If we conceded three goals to you I'd be devastated.

    Injuries are nicely playing onto your hands at present. Our squad for tonight looks like it'll only have 5 first team regs in it.

    Did you see Milans team yesterday?
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    Post by Machiavel Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:41 pm

    What’s the latest on Ronaldo?
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:43 pm

    Nummer 14 wrote:What’s the latest on Ronaldo?

    he played Cr@p at the weekend and was obviously not fully fit.
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:45 pm

    BoBo Vieri wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    These kinds of things were uttered by Man U fans. Then, it was speed and how it would take the Milan defence by surprise.


    Well, you did concede three away from home. If we conceded three goals to you I'd be devastated.

    Injuries are nicely playing onto your hands at present. Our squad for tonight looks like it'll only have 5 first team regs in it.

    Did you see Milans team yesterday?

    No. Watch Samp V Napoli
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    Post by Super Progress Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:25 pm

    Nummer 14 wrote:What’s the latest on Ronaldo?
    he is injuried again and it is not sure he will make it for arsenal. inzaghi is ready though.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:32 pm

    @Tweeds

    We've had a spate of injuries lately:

    Ronaldo, Inzaghi (they just recovered, and the former is injured again), Pato, Kaka, Gattuso...

    Those are very key players for us.

    We certainly conceded 3 goals away from home, but one of them was because of our in-house imbecile Dida.

    The Rooney goal was one where we were burnt for speed, and that was more due to Brocchi losing the ball in midfield.
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:37 pm

    We're both struggling it seems and neither of us have particularly good squad depth.

    I just hope we have Touré and Flamini back.

    I'm resigned to us not having RVP.

    Rosicky would also be a loss but I think he's not too important to us and we can easily manage without him.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:54 pm

    unrelated tweeds but the press are linking Arsenal with a summer move for Palladino.
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    Post by Calidad Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:56 pm

    I just hope both sides have fully fit squads. On paper, we should be in for two fantastic games.

    I've been left disappointed by the CL in recent seasons. The only games that I saw last season that were exciting were the Utd-Milan games. Most others left me disappointed.
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:01 pm

    BoBo Vieri wrote:unrelated tweeds but the press are linking Arsenal with a summer move for Palladino.

    Honestly can't see why.

    We have Eduardo, Bendtner, RVP and Adebayor who currently play as forwards. Walcott is also capable of playing there and we also could be bringing Vela back to us from loan (at Osasuna).

    Its highly unlikely.
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:02 pm

    Calidad wrote:I just hope both sides have fully fit squads. On paper, we should be in for two fantastic games.

    I've been left disappointed by the CL in recent seasons. The only games that I saw last season that were exciting were the Utd-Milan games. Most others left me disappointed.

    The Barca-Utd battles back in the late 90s are still the highlight for me. Back when Rivaldo was at his peak
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    Post by Calidad Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:18 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Calidad wrote:I just hope both sides have fully fit squads. On paper, we should be in for two fantastic games.

    I've been left disappointed by the CL in recent seasons. The only games that I saw last season that were exciting were the Utd-Milan games. Most others left me disappointed.

    The Barca-Utd battles back in the late 90s are still the highlight for me. Back when Rivaldo was at his peak

    I don't remember those so well Sad Though I do remember the Utd-Madrid games, that were also fantastic for the neutral. ok
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    Post by TM Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:20 pm

    Ronaldo hattrick was immense! And then to get a standing ovation from the old trafford faithful. Ale
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    Post by L.r.d Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:22 pm

    Drenthe MOTM wrote:Ronaldo hattrick was immense! And then to get a standing ovation from the old trafford faithful. Ale

    The Barca games were better imo. But the 4-3 was a great game also. The 3-1 in Madrid wasnt really a great game, Madrid just pissed all over us, it was horrible Biggrin
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    Post by TM Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:25 pm

    Redondo's backhell fecking class.

    Aye the 4-3 match was good, but your probably saying that cos you won that game.

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