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    Post by Onur 1905 Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:58 pm

    Ac Milan is unfortunate Erm
    Arsenal's become favourite after these injuries
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    Post by Luis Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:39 pm

    Adebayorrrrrrrr
    Adebayorrrrrrrr
    Give him the ballll
    And he will scoreeee

    He will be the difference.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:36 pm

    Breaking news:

    Ronaldo and Inzaghi should be available for Siena (at least on the bench).

    Kaka WILL be there for Arsenal.

    Jankulovski will also be returning this weekend.

    The definitive Pato diagnosis is 2 weeks.

    He should be ready for Arsenal.

    They will try to recover Gattuso also.

    The following link details what the Milan doctor said (on Milan channel):

    http://www.acmilan.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=61323
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    Post by shazlx Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:18 pm

    Luis wrote:Adebayorrrrrrrr
    Adebayorrrrrrrr
    Give him the ballll
    And he will scoreeee

    He will be the difference.
    If Van Persie is fit, then its all about him. He really is the jewel in our crown.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:34 pm

    I'd have prefered playing a full strength Milan side to playing a depleted one.

    If win now everyone would say it was to be expected as Milan were missing some of their best and most influential players.

    If we lose then the usual suspects will say "see, i told u arsenal were all hype, they couldn't even beat a depleted Milan side" .
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:38 pm

    Agooner wrote:I'd have prefered playing a full strength Milan side to playing a depleted one.

    If win now everyone would say it was to be expected as Milan were missing some of their best and most influential players.

    If we lose then the usual suspects will say "see, i told u arsenal were all hype, they couldn't even beat a depleted Milan side" .

    so your agendas on this message board are more important than the actual results you achieve?
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    Post by Black Magic Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:43 pm

    BoBo Vieri wrote:
    Agooner wrote:I'd have prefered playing a full strength Milan side to playing a depleted one.

    If win now everyone would say it was to be expected as Milan were missing some of their best and most influential players.

    If we lose then the usual suspects will say "see, i told u arsenal were all hype, they couldn't even beat a depleted Milan side" .

    so your agendas on this message board are more important than the actual results you achieve?

    It's on just bragging rights on an MB though is it? Cries of "You beat a shite Milan team" will be sung by Spuds and Mancs all over work places, schools, hospitals and by family members. Not to mention those predictable commentators reminding us all of how different it might have been had Kaka or Pato have played.

    I want to win overall, but I'd rather beat a full strength Milan side than a depleted one.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:47 pm

    BM wrote:
    BoBo Vieri wrote:
    Agooner wrote:I'd have prefered playing a full strength Milan side to playing a depleted one.

    If win now everyone would say it was to be expected as Milan were missing some of their best and most influential players.

    If we lose then the usual suspects will say "see, i told u arsenal were all hype, they couldn't even beat a depleted Milan side" .

    so your agendas on this message board are more important than the actual results you achieve?

    It's on just bragging rights on an MB though is it? Cries of "You beat a shite Milan team" will be sung by Spuds and Mancs all over work places, schools, hospitals and by family members. Not to mention those predictable commentators reminding us all of how different it might have been had Kaka or Pato have played.

    I want to win overall, but I'd rather beat a full strength Milan side than a depleted one.

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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:59 pm

    Milan gunning for Kaka and Pato
    Wednesday 6 February, 2008

    Kaka’s spokesman may not be so sure, but Milan’s fitness staff are confident the Balon d’Or winner and Alexandre Pato will be ready to face Arsenal.

    The presence of the two Brazilians in this Champions League clash was put in doubt by recent injury worries.

    Pato turned his ankle on the turf during Sunday’s 1-0 victory at Fiorentina, while Kaka’s spokesman Diego Kotscho warns a knee problem has been dragging on for months and “he probably will not be fielded against Arsenal.”

    However, a very different opinion has been proffered by MilanLab co-ordinator Jean Pierre Meersseman.

    “Pato is much better today. Up until yesterday he was walking with the aid of crutches, but now he can walk without feeling any pain,” he told Milan Channel.

    “We are confident of his recovery time. Up until yesterday we thought it would take two or three weeks, but now I think within a fortnight he can be recovered and ready for the match with Arsenal.”

    There were fears Pato had damaged ligaments or even fractured his ankle when he caught his studs in the turf.

    “Pato was certainly very frightened, as it was his first injury and came after scoring a fantastic goal the day before he was set to join the Brazilian national team. It was a physical blow and a psychological one.”

    The race to play at the Emirates on February 20 is also on for Kaka, who has been struggling with a knee problem.

    “Kaka will certainly be available against Arsenal, but he won’t be there with Siena,” confirmed Meersseman.

    “This knee injury has been going on for almost two years and he always feels a little pain the day after a match. This is why we decided to take action so he can recover quicker in future.”

    The Rossoneri face Siena this weekend without the suspended Alberto Gilardino, so there are precious few options left in attack.

    “Ronaldo and Pippo Inzaghi will certainly be there against Siena. They looked good in training. We also scanned Gennaro Gattuso and he too should be ready for Arsenal.”

    The professor revealed a curious particular about Gattuso’s hardman reputation,

    “We need to protect Rino from himself, as he feels no pain and so pushed forward through everything. We need in-depth tests to see if there really is any damage or not.”
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:19 pm

    Kaka aims for Arsenal
    Thursday 7 February, 2008

    Kaka will be missing for Milan’s game against Siena this weekend, but he is determined to return for the Champions League trip to Arsenal.

    The Ballon d’Or winner has been playing in spite of a knee problem for the last year, but has finally been forced to give the problem some time to heal.

    While it looks likely that he will be absent for the February 16 clash against Parma, Kaka believes he will be ready to travel to London on February 20 after positive tests today.

    “The knee is getting better,” the Brasila native said at a charity event in Milan.

    “Unfortunately, this is an old problem. I’ve been dealing with this pain for a long time and managing to deal with it, but I can’t keep training and playing at my best with it.

    “This is the right time to take a rest and see if that’s enough to cure it. I’m hoping to play again as soon as possible.

    “I don’t know how long it will take, but it doesn’t look like I will be playing on Sunday or Wednesday. Still, we will see about the Parma game because there is a week to go.

    “I just want to be back for the double test against Arsenal. I don’t think any operation will be needed, not even at the end of the year.”

    Milan have a number of injury worries ahead of this weekend’s game against Siena, but Carlo Ancelotti could welcome back striking stars Ronaldo and Pippo Inzaghi.

    “There will be a lot of changes in attack as Ronaldo and Inzaghi will be coming back in,” Kaka insisted.

    “I am happy for Ronnie and I hope that Pippo can get back to his best too as we have missed him so much.”

    Kaka finished the interview by commenting on his chances of playing for Brazil’s Olympic side in Beijing this summer.

    “I would like to go,” he admitted. “But I will leave the decision to the Brazilian Football Federation and Milan because there can be such trouble with these things.”

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    Post by L.r.d Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:22 pm

    Nice long rest before the two big games for Kaka. Reminds me of something....cant think what.
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    Post by Juligen Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:01 pm

    L r d wrote:Nice long rest before the two big games for Kaka. Reminds me of something....cant think what.

    Biggrin Indeed bring good memories of last season. If Milan pass Arsenal (and is a big IF) I would cry with joy in case they get United in the next round, I though that a 5-3 spanking would be enough for you, but since it wasn’t, heres to another match. Ale

    I can see Rio pissing just by the sight of the Duck Blush but Arsenal first.
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    Post by Machiavel Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:45 pm

    Rio will eat Pato alive (not literally)
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:51 pm

    Juligen wrote:
    L r d wrote:Nice long rest before the two big games for Kaka. Reminds me of something....cant think what.

    Biggrin Indeed bring good memories of last season. If Milan pass Arsenal (and is a big IF) I would cry with joy in case they get United in the next round, I though that a 5-3 spanking would be enough for you, but since it wasn’t, heres to another match. Ale

    I can see Rio pissing just by the sight of the Duck Blush but Arsenal first.

    And Ronaldo would make a fool out of him again
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    Post by Machiavel Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:57 pm

    Who will Cristiano make a fool out off?
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    Post by DS Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:26 pm

    BoBo Vieri wrote:
    Juligen wrote:
    L r d wrote:Nice long rest before the two big games for Kaka. Reminds me of something....cant think what.

    Biggrin Indeed bring good memories of last season. If Milan pass Arsenal (and is a big IF) I would cry with joy in case they get United in the next round, I though that a 5-3 spanking would be enough for you, but since it wasn’t, heres to another match. Ale

    I can see Rio pissing just by the sight of the Duck Blush but Arsenal first.

    And Ronaldo would make a fool out of him again
    We will see but doubt you will get past Arsenal.


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    Post by DS Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:27 pm

    Come on Gunners.
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    Post by Juligen Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:42 pm

    Dark Savante wrote:Come on Gunners.

    Laugh Laugh Already shaking in your boots, right Savante? I know, Milan has this effect on people tongue

    Milan HAS to pass Arsenal or I will have my ass kicked in this forum
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:00 pm

    Nummer 14 wrote:Who will Cristiano make a fool out off?

    noone, but Oddo will have him in his pocket again Razz
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:01 pm

    Dark Savante wrote:
    BoBo Vieri wrote:
    Juligen wrote:
    L r d wrote:Nice long rest before the two big games for Kaka. Reminds me of something....cant think what.

    Biggrin Indeed bring good memories of last season. If Milan pass Arsenal (and is a big IF) I would cry with joy in case they get United in the next round, I though that a 5-3 spanking would be enough for you, but since it wasn’t, heres to another match. Ale

    I can see Rio pissing just by the sight of the Duck Blush but Arsenal first.

    And Ronaldo would make a fool out of him again
    We will see but doubt you will get past Arsenal.

    me?

    and why do you think that?
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    Post by Machiavel Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:19 pm

    BoBo Vieri wrote:
    Nummer 14 wrote:Who will Cristiano make a fool out off?

    noone, but Oddo will have him in his pocket again Razz

    Cristiano will make him famous, Oddo can tell his grandchildren he coped against the great CR7 Biggrin
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:03 pm

    Ronaldo focused on Euro glory
    Friday 8 February, 2008

    Ronaldo is back in action after a series of injuries and has one target in his sights – to win the Champions League with Milan.

    “I have not yet won the Champions League, so I will do everything I can to bring it back home with Milan.”

    He is closing in on full fitness in the run-up to the second round showdown with Arsenal, which would be his European debut in a Rossoneri jersey.

    He was cup-tied due to his time with Real Madrid in last season’s triumphant competition, while physical problems have prevented him from playing in the Champions League, European Super Cup or Club World Cup this term.

    The striker has barely set foot on the field this season due to recurring knee and muscular injuries, but finally seems ready to make his mark against Siena this weekend.

    “This is going to be an important game. We are make up for lost ground after a bad start and to win here would be crucial.”

    The Rossoneri are now in fifth place with a game in hand after defeating top four contenders Udinese and Fiorentina away from home in recent weeks.

    However, they are without injured stars Alexandre Pato and Kaka – as well as the suspended Alberto Gilardino – for the Siena encounter, so he could partner Pippo Inzaghi.

    “We had a few training sessions together and had a lot of fun. This season when I was fit then he tended to be injured, and vice versa, but now we’re more or less alright at the same time. If we do play alongside each other, we will try to do very well,” he told Milan Channel.

    “A year ago I was able to give my contribution, this year a little less. I am disappointed at all the injuries I had in my career and think there were many mistakes both from the medical staff and from me.

    “Now I hope to get some consistency into my performances because being here at Milan is wonderful and very motivating. I am determined to do well.”

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    Post by Calidad Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:14 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Ronaldo focused on Euro glory
    Friday 8 February, 2008

    Ronaldo is back in action after a series of injuries and has one target in his sights – to win the Champions League with Milan.

    “I have not yet won the Champions League, so I will do everything I can to bring it back home with Milan.”

    He is closing in on full fitness in the run-up to the second round showdown with Arsenal, which would be his European debut in a Rossoneri jersey.

    He was cup-tied due to his time with Real Madrid in last season’s triumphant competition, while physical problems have prevented him from playing in the Champions League, European Super Cup or Club World Cup this term.

    The striker has barely set foot on the field this season due to recurring knee and muscular injuries, but finally seems ready to make his mark against Siena this weekend.

    “This is going to be an important game. We are make up for lost ground top four contenders Udinese and Fiorentina away from home in recent after a bad start and to win here would be crucial.”

    The Rossoneri are now in fifth place with a game in hand after defeating weeks.

    However, they are without injured stars Alexandre Pato and Kaka – as well as the suspended Alberto Gilardino – for the Siena encounter, so he could partner Pippo Inzaghi.

    “We had a few training sessions together and had a lot of fun. This season when I was fit then he tended to be injured, and vice versa, but now we’re more or less alright at the same time. If we do play alongside each other, we will try to do very well,” he told Milan Channel.

    “A year ago I was able to give my contribution, this year a little less. I am disappointed at all the injuries I had in my career and think there were many mistakes both from the medical staff and from me.

    “Now I hope to get some consistency into my performances because being here at Milan is wonderful and very motivating. I am determined to do well.”

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    It's interesting that all the talk is about Pato. For me, Ronaldo is the biggest threat. Give him a chance, he more often than not put's it away. He definitely the best striker I have ever seen in one-on-one situations. Assuming he'll be fit for the game, the games against Siena & Parma will be useful in terms of him getting match fitness.

    Like he say's himself, he'll also be extra motivated as he's yet to win the CL. Furthermore, due to injury he's never really made the mark in that competition that his talent deserves. So Arsenal should watch out.
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    Post by Super Progress Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:16 pm

    Calidad wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Ronaldo focused on Euro glory
    Friday 8 February, 2008

    Ronaldo is back in action after a series of injuries and has one target in his sights – to win the Champions League with Milan.

    “I have not yet won the Champions League, so I will do everything I can to bring it back home with Milan.”

    He is closing in on full fitness in the run-up to the second round showdown with Arsenal, which would be his European debut in a Rossoneri jersey.

    He was cup-tied due to his time with Real Madrid in last season’s triumphant competition, while physical problems have prevented him from playing in the Champions League, European Super Cup or Club World Cup this term.

    The striker has barely set foot on the field this season due to recurring knee and muscular injuries, but finally seems ready to make his mark against Siena this weekend.

    “This is going to be an important game. We are make up for lost ground top four contenders Udinese and Fiorentina away from home in recent after a bad start and to win here would be crucial.”

    The Rossoneri are now in fifth place with a game in hand after defeating weeks.

    However, they are without injured stars Alexandre Pato and Kaka – as well as the suspended Alberto Gilardino – for the Siena encounter, so he could partner Pippo Inzaghi.

    “We had a few training sessions together and had a lot of fun. This season when I was fit then he tended to be injured, and vice versa, but now we’re more or less alright at the same time. If we do play alongside each other, we will try to do very well,” he told Milan Channel.

    “A year ago I was able to give my contribution, this year a little less. I am disappointed at all the injuries I had in my career and think there were many mistakes both from the medical staff and from me.

    “Now I hope to get some consistency into my performances because being here at Milan is wonderful and very motivating. I am determined to do well.”

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    It's interesting that all the talk is about Pato. For me, Ronaldo is the biggest threat. Give him a chance, he more often than not put's it away. He definitely the best striker I have ever seen in one-on-one situations. Assuming he'll be fit for the game, the games against Siena & Parma will be useful in terms of him getting match fitness.

    Like he say's himself, he'll also be extra motivated as he's yet to win the CL. Furthermore, due to injury he's never really made the mark in that competition that his talent deserves. So Arsenal should watch out.
    I agree. i think ronaldo will be the key and not pato. milan will need a striker that can score on the first chance he gets. he also gives alot to milans attack but like you said he can only be effective if he gets some games.
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    Post by Juligen Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:48 pm

    Calidad wrote:It's interesting that all the talk is about Pato. For me, Ronaldo is the biggest threat. Give him a chance, he more often than not put's it away. He definitely the best striker I have ever seen in one-on-one situations. Assuming he'll be fit for the game, the games against Siena & Parma will be useful in terms of him getting match fitness.

    Like he say's himself, he'll also be extra motivated as he's yet to win the CL. Furthermore, due to injury he's never really made the mark in that competition that his talent deserves. So Arsenal should watch out.

    I will give him a chance; the problem is that he will need 10.

    Calidad, of course we know that Ronaldo is the best striker and he is much better and more dangerous than Pato. When fit, there is no one as intimidating as Ronaldo. BUT he is never fit, in fact when he can play is actually news. Pato had a age ban impeding him to play half season and even tho he already have more games than Ronaldo this season, what does tell you about him?

    Sorry, I just cant trust Ronaldo, so is better just hope for the Duck to be fit, if Ronaldo is also game ready it will be a bonus, if not I wont be disappointed.

    If Milan can have Pato AND Ronaldo for this game, then it will be fantastic.
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:54 pm

    A big club like Milan shouldn't rely on an 18 year old. That is just dumb, players at that age don't have the mental strenght of their more senior teammates.

    I really hope Ronaldo will be fit and that it will be a couple of great games.
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    Post by DS Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:23 pm

    Juligen wrote:
    Dark Savante wrote:Come on Gunners.

    Laugh Laugh Already shaking in your boots, right Savante? I know, Milan has this effect on people tongue

    Milan HAS to pass Arsenal or I will have my ass kicked in this forum
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    Why I think Arsenal will beat Milan(ofcourse could be wrong) because they are a very athletic side in almost all deptartments of play and Milan's game(way of play)isnt what Arsenal would worry they have players who can negate Pato/Ronaldo Kaka Seedorf easily at least physically ,I think because its not that Milan will outpass Arsenal dont think that will happen , just my opinion.
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    Post by DS Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:24 pm

    Got my thoughts scattered , will probably post latter why I think this.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:41 pm

    I can see both sides playing 1 up in the 1st leg.
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    Post by gone Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:10 pm

    L r d wrote:Nice long rest before the two big games for Kaka. Reminds me of something....cant think what.

    And we still won the game. This is what a big club does. cheers To bad United has to use C.Ronaldo in every game.

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