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    Post by L.r.d Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:07 pm

    LordAnger wrote:lrd what is your problem with tevez?
    Utd are better when he is playing, can you not see this? It is tevez that links the play for you and adds some creativity in the final 3rd, he also outscores rooney (ok not that hard to do).
    how strange...

    If Rooney was not injured so much then this doesn't happen.

    And i am not exageratting or joking or anything here, Tevez is the most selfish player i have EVER seen at man utd. If he has the ball within 15 yards he will shoot 9 times out of 10 how can you have a partnership with a player like this. Rooney is very unselfish.

    But i see why you think Tevez can link up when he drops deep he does try and make passes and sometimes he looks good there, but upfront he's a selfish c**t <Ale>
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    Post by SuperMario Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:08 pm

    Dark Savante wrote:Klose -Toni is a very good partnership no doubt.
    Klose - whoever is a great partnership (nearly as good as Barbarez - whoever). Toni is 1 lucky bastard.
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    Post by Batman Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:15 pm

    robert wrote:Batman do we really have a front 2? I'd say it's a front 3. So you might as well exclude Rooney and Tevez from your list.


    I do think we have a front 2, but with the number of goals Ronaldo has this season it's easy to say we play with a front 3.

    With no Saha upfront and Rooney and Tevez being mobile strikers, Ronaldo is getting forward more from midfield and finding space to score goals. If Saha had been fit all season then Ronaldo would probably have less goals now.

    Most of the times when Ronaldo has played upfront this season with Tevez or Rooney it has been in a front 2.

    I have heard footy pundits comment on how good the Rooney and Tevez partnership has been. at the start, most people thought both players would get in each others way.

    but this has not been the case, when one drops deep, the other goes forward and when both drop deep then its Ronaldo that going forward.
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:20 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    Messiah wrote:
    LordAnger wrote:
    Calidad wrote:
    LordAnger wrote:i've forgotten what i was going to type Smile

    whoever said RVP better than Tevez is nuts. RVP isn't bad, decent freekicks but apart from that being injured all the time isnt a massive selling point. He has never really done it for me. not a patch on mr bergkamp!

    Aguero will be awesome and if he wasn't carrying his club and was playing for a proper top team. this we all have to look forward too.

    Kun + Drogs
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    = Magic

    kun and trezigol at juve please!

    I can see him at Juve/inter in a few years.

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    Please not juve go to a good club like Milan or just stay and atletico

    Pato + Kun = best strike partnership in the world for a decade!
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    Post by Lordanger Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:26 pm

    with messi in behind them! the rest might as well go home!
    Kun + Pato + Messi = out of this world!


    LRD: i see what your saying, i'll watch closer next time i see utd but for me is strange as i've never thought of carlitos as a selfish player.
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    Post by TM Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:28 pm

    Pato hype continues, looks like a promising player started off his Serie A career well with 4 goals.

    Wasn't expecting an 18YO CL debutant to do much against Gallas and Toure(Senderous) on his own tbh.

    Will be interesting if he lives up to the next 'Ronaldo' tag. Doubt it.
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    Post by shazlx Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:33 pm

    *T*M* wrote:Will be interesting if he lives up to the next 'Ronaldo' tag.
    No way. A lot a hype for a good player we'll have to see but I don't think he'll ever be top 5 forwards/strikers.
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:39 pm

    *T*M* wrote:Pato hype continues, looks like a promising player started off his Serie A career well with 4 goals.

    Wasn't expecting an 18YO CL debutant to do much against Gallas and Toure(Senderous) on his own tbh.

    Will be interesting if he lives up to the next 'Ronaldo' tag. Doubt it.

    Pato is really lucky. Ronaldo's injury will help him a lot. I'm not saying that Ronaldo's absence will increase his playing minutes, Pato was already Ancelotti's first choice when Ronaldo got injured. The most important fact is that Pato will be free of Ronaldo's influence off the pitch. That's the main reason why Robinho's performances improved dramatically since the beginning of 2007. True story!
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:40 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    *T*M* wrote:Will be interesting if he lives up to the next 'Ronaldo' tag.
    No way. A lot a hype for a good player we'll have to see but I don't think he'll ever be top 5 forwards/strikers.

    Why?
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    Post by TM Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:40 pm

    sheva7 wrote:
    *T*M* wrote:Pato hype continues, looks like a promising player started off his Serie A career well with 4 goals.

    Wasn't expecting an 18YO CL debutant to do much against Gallas and Toure(Senderous) on his own tbh.

    Will be interesting if he lives up to the next 'Ronaldo' tag. Doubt it.

    Pato is really lucky. Ronaldo's injury will help him a lot. I'm not saying that Ronaldo's absence will increase his playing minutes, Pato was already Ancelotti's first choice when Ronaldo got injured. The most important fact is that Pato will be free of Ronaldo's influence off the pitch. That's the main reason why Robinho's performances improved dramatically since the beginning of 2007. True story!

    Yeah along with Robby's departure.
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    Post by shazlx Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:57 pm

    sheva7 wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    *T*M* wrote:Will be interesting if he lives up to the next 'Ronaldo' tag.
    No way. A lot a hype for a good player we'll have to see but I don't think he'll ever be top 5 forwards/strikers.

    Why?
    I dunno. He doesn't seem to have the strength. I really have only seen him in 4 matches so we'll see.
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    Post by robert Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:01 pm

    LordAnger wrote:with messi in behind them! the rest might as well go home!
    Kun + Pato + Messi = out of this world!


    LRD: i see what your saying, i'll watch closer next time i see utd but for me is strange as i've never thought of carlitos as a selfish player.

    Take Lrd with a pinch of salt sometimes. He has agendas against Tevez in terms of shooting, while it is true Tevez has some grating qualities such as taking too many touches, overelaborating things and sometimes taking chances himself Ronaldo still has far more attempts on goal than Tevez.
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    Post by Guest Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:02 pm

    LordAnger wrote:with messi in behind them! the rest might as well go home!
    Kun + Pato + Messi = out of this world!


    LRD: i see what your saying, i'll watch closer next time i see utd but for me is strange as i've never thought of carlitos as a selfish player.

    Leave Messi out of this doesn't need to join up with anytime to create a World class attacking line, he already has Bojan and soon Assulin.

    Assulin+Bojan+Messi

    Will be destroying opposition defenses for years to come.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:03 pm

    26-Otto-19 wrote:must be

    Klose+Toni

    lol!

    unpredictable?

    I reckon you and me could score goals in that league though Otto Ale
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    Post by Red n' Black Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:10 pm

    Klose-Toni would be successful in any league IMO
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:06 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:The Aguero hype is getting sickening now.
    Aguero > Pato. Yet Pato gets more hype. Roger

    Based on what exactly?

    Pato has been far better in his first two months than Aguero was in his first two at Paltetico.

    Pato didn't get sent off for petulance in the most important European game of his career.
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    Post by Lordanger Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:51 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:The Aguero hype is getting sickening now.
    Aguero > Pato. Yet Pato gets more hype. Roger

    Based on what exactly?

    Pato has been far better in his first two months than Aguero was in his first two at Paltetico.

    Pato didn't get sent off for petulance in the most important European game of his career.

    probably being the best young striker in spain? crazy I know....
    Pato has only played about four games in his entire career so hard to judge him.
    Did Pato top score at under 20s WC?
    and how can you judge a player who is carrying his $h!t team against one who is playing for the euro champions? Pato isnt the biggest name at Milan where as Aguero is top dog at Atletico and also their record signing so he has a lot of pressure on his shoulders.
    Seems that the Falklands still lives strong in uk today! tevez and aguero hate on the march! Fighting
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    Post by COTR Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:58 pm

    LordAnger wrote:hmmmmm tevez or rooney, hmmmmmmmmm. tough one but i'll take tevez (just) as he is a better goalscorer, more skillful and more intelligent on the pitch. However it really is down to personal preference when two players are so similar.
    So park lives you dont want players who can pass and create things? how strange... there was me thinking that passing was essential to football but then i forget this is about english football Smile


    I don't see them as being particularly similar about from the obvious ie they are both short, fat and brutal.

    rooney is more consistent, more reliable, has far superior class on the ball and scores better goals. You see, it's easy to play this game Razz

    tevez is more a worker for me. Somewhere in between a kuyt and rooney in the spectrum of forwards. He has a little bit of kuyt in him and a little bit of rooney, but sadly for him he has more of kuyt in him. Good player, nothing more, whereas rooney is a great player. All united fans will take rooney over him.
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    Post by Lordanger Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:01 pm

    COTR wrote:
    LordAnger wrote:hmmmmm tevez or rooney, hmmmmmmmmm. tough one but i'll take tevez (just) as he is a better goalscorer, more skillful and more intelligent on the pitch. However it really is down to personal preference when two players are so similar.
    So park lives you dont want players who can pass and create things? how strange... there was me thinking that passing was essential to football but then i forget this is about english football Smile


    I don't see them as being particularly similar about from the obvious ie they are both short, fat and brutal.

    rooney is more consistent, more reliable, has far superior class on the ball and scores better goals. You see, it's easy to play this game Razz

    tevez is more a worker for me. Somewhere in between a kuyt and rooney in the spectrum of forwards. He has a little bit of kuyt in him and a little bit of rooney, but sadly for him he has more of kuyt in him. Good player, nothing more, whereas rooney is a great player. All united fans will take rooney over him.

    flubber flubber flubber cats Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil
    ur just trying to make me angry Smile
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    Post by COTR Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:04 pm

    LordAnger wrote:
    COTR wrote:
    LordAnger wrote:hmmmmm tevez or rooney, hmmmmmmmmm. tough one but i'll take tevez (just) as he is a better goalscorer, more skillful and more intelligent on the pitch. However it really is down to personal preference when two players are so similar.
    So park lives you dont want players who can pass and create things? how strange... there was me thinking that passing was essential to football but then i forget this is about english football Smile


    I don't see them as being particularly similar about from the obvious ie they are both short, fat and brutal.

    rooney is more consistent, more reliable, has far superior class on the ball and scores better goals. You see, it's easy to play this game Razz

    tevez is more a worker for me. Somewhere in between a kuyt and rooney in the spectrum of forwards. He has a little bit of kuyt in him and a little bit of rooney, but sadly for him he has more of kuyt in him. Good player, nothing more, whereas rooney is a great player. All united fans will take rooney over him.

    flubber flubber flubber cats Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil
    ur just trying to make me angry Smile

    Well I clearly didn't do very well as all I got out of you was

    flubber flubber flubber cats Biggrin

    I've been banging on about tevez being a bit average for a long time. He is my new lampard.
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    Post by Lordanger Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:07 pm

    please stop it, please. first kuyt, now lampard. who next?
    your be saying he is as $h!t as a certain mr gerrard, who we all know is massively overrated.
    rooney looks a little like a pasty flubber Smile
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:48 pm

    LordAnger wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:The Aguero hype is getting sickening now.
    Aguero > Pato. Yet Pato gets more hype. Roger

    Based on what exactly?

    Pato has been far better in his first two months than Aguero was in his first two at Paltetico.

    Pato didn't get sent off for petulance in the most important European game of his career.

    probably being the best young striker in spain? crazy I know....
    Pato has only played about four games in his entire career so hard to judge him.
    Did Pato top score at under 20s WC?
    and how can you judge a player who is carrying his $h!t team against one who is playing for the euro champions? Pato isnt the biggest name at Milan where as Aguero is top dog at Atletico and also their record signing so he has a lot of pressure on his shoulders.
    Seems that the Falklands still lives strong in uk today! tevez and aguero hate on the march! Fighting

    Saviola was the topscorer and the golden ball winner of the u21 WC in 2001. So what?

    Btw Pato scored again today.
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:49 pm

    COTR wrote:
    LordAnger wrote:
    COTR wrote:
    LordAnger wrote:hmmmmm tevez or rooney, hmmmmmmmmm. tough one but i'll take tevez (just) as he is a better goalscorer, more skillful and more intelligent on the pitch. However it really is down to personal preference when two players are so similar.
    So park lives you dont want players who can pass and create things? how strange... there was me thinking that passing was essential to football but then i forget this is about english football Smile


    I don't see them as being particularly similar about from the obvious ie they are both short, fat and brutal.

    rooney is more consistent, more reliable, has far superior class on the ball and scores better goals. You see, it's easy to play this game Razz

    tevez is more a worker for me. Somewhere in between a kuyt and rooney in the spectrum of forwards. He has a little bit of kuyt in him and a little bit of rooney, but sadly for him he has more of kuyt in him. Good player, nothing more, whereas rooney is a great player. All united fans will take rooney over him.

    flubber flubber flubber cats Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil
    ur just trying to make me angry Smile

    Well I clearly didn't do very well as all I got out of you was

    flubber flubber flubber cats Biggrin

    I've been banging on about tevez being a bit average for a long time. He is my new lampard.

    Tevez is bit average? He is much better than Torres.
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    Post by Lordanger Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:53 pm

    i think that frank lampard is better than steven gerrard. so lets have no more arguments! it is said now Smile
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:55 pm

    LordAnger wrote:i think that frank lampard is better than steven gerrard.

    lol!

    at what?

    football? Laugh
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    Post by TM Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:55 pm

    Glenn Hysén wrote:
    LordAnger wrote:i think that frank lampard is better than steven gerrard.

    lol!

    at what?

    football? Laugh

    A pie eating contest.
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    Post by Lordanger Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:59 pm

    Smile
    to be honest the pair of them can f@ck off.

    i was just getting bored of these arguments about who is better than who and who has the bigger trouser snake etc etc so i thought id bring up the classic who is better argument to finish with!

    who mentioned torres? is he better than rooney?
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:37 pm

    LordAnger wrote:
    probably being the best young striker in spain? crazy I know....
    Pato has only played about four games in his entire career so hard to judge him.
    Did Pato top score at under 20s WC?
    and how can you judge a player who is carrying his $h!t team against one who is playing for the euro champions? Pato isnt the biggest name at Milan where as Aguero is top dog at Atletico and also their record signing so he has a lot of pressure on his shoulders.
    Seems that the Falklands still lives strong in uk today! tevez and aguero hate on the march! Fighting

    Pato did have a career before moving to Milan you know scratch

    Based on your logic Downing(who carries boro)>>>>>>Ronaldinho
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    Post by Calidad Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:54 pm

    sheva7 wrote:
    LordAnger wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:The Aguero hype is getting sickening now.
    Aguero > Pato. Yet Pato gets more hype. Roger

    Based on what exactly?

    Pato has been far better in his first two months than Aguero was in his first two at Paltetico.

    Pato didn't get sent off for petulance in the most important European game of his career.

    probably being the best young striker in spain? crazy I know....
    Pato has only played about four games in his entire career so hard to judge him.
    Did Pato top score at under 20s WC?
    and how can you judge a player who is carrying his $h!t team against one who is playing for the euro champions? Pato isnt the biggest name at Milan where as Aguero is top dog at Atletico and also their record signing so he has a lot of pressure on his shoulders.
    Seems that the Falklands still lives strong in uk today! tevez and aguero hate on the march! Fighting

    Saviola was the topscorer and the golden ball winner of the u21 WC in 2001. So what?

    Btw Pato scored again today.

    Both are class. Though I'd take Aguero over Pato at the moment.

    Pato may become more prolific, but Aguero just scores ridiculously good goals. Many of them in Argentina even though he was 16.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:01 am

    Tweedle wrote:
    LordAnger wrote:
    probably being the best young striker in spain? crazy I know....
    Pato has only played about four games in his entire career so hard to judge him.
    Did Pato top score at under 20s WC?
    and how can you judge a player who is carrying his $h!t team against one who is playing for the euro champions? Pato isnt the biggest name at Milan where as Aguero is top dog at Atletico and also their record signing so he has a lot of pressure on his shoulders.
    Seems that the Falklands still lives strong in uk today! tevez and aguero hate on the march! Fighting

    Pato did have a career before moving to Milan you know scratch

    Based on your logic Downing(who carries boro)>>>>>>Ronaldinho

    Wheater has been our best this season...but yeah, Downing >>> Ronaldinho.

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