Negroid managers

A Tribe Called BM™ wrote:What about Van Bronkhorst? What the f@ck is he? And Nigel De Jong?

Van Bronckhorst is Mollucan (island group part of Indenesia), he was born near Rotterdam. Nigel de Jong is 50/50 Surinamese/Dutch, born in Holland too.

De Guzman wrote:Imo no (Gullit black, apart from his skin colour). Same goes for Obama & Colin Powell.

What about Jos Luhukay at Borussia Moenchen Gladbach? Or Andre Wetzel (not even sure about him, looks a bit Indonesian).

Imo in Holland if you're good enough you'll get there even if you're a blue.

André Wetzel is a Dutch-Moluccan (born in Surabaya). Top manager!!!!! FC Den Haag next year....?

Denny Landzaat and Gio Van Bronckhorst are also Dutch-Moluccans (born in the Netherlands) Nigel de Jong is half white (Mum) half black (father) born in Amsterdam....

Any more question...?

Ricardo Jol wrote:

De Guzman wrote:Imo no (Gullit black, apart from his skin colour). Same goes for Obama & Colin Powell.

What about Jos Luhukay at Borussia Moenchen Gladbach? Or Andre Wetzel (not even sure about him, looks a bit Indonesian).

Imo in Holland if you're good enough you'll get there even if you're a blue.

André Wetzel is a Dutch-Moluccan (born in Surabaya). Top manager!!!!! FC Den Haag next year....?

Denny Landzaat and Gio Van Bronckhorst are also Dutch-Moluccans (born in the Netherlands) Nigel de Jong is half white (Mum) half black (father) born in Amsterdam....

Any more question...?

I rate Wetzel too. Wetzel or Jol? Who would you prefer?

Jol head coach
Wetzel assistent.... I doubt that'll work because Wetzel is eager enough (now) to be to the head coach.... He was assistent long enough. Under Wotte at Den Haag and Jong Oranje...

I'm glad if we can get one of those super trainers but I can't believe we get one of them...

Think they'ld both be great, hope you get one of them. Maybe winning the playoffs could help. Seems you're improving.

Anything can happen... It´s a bit late but our form is improving... Is it just on time? To win the play-offs?
Lastnight, was a terrible game against Haarlem but we won that´s the most important...

Allez les rouges wrote:I'm not generally one to be arguing for systemic racism on a topic like this but: Robson, Hughes, Keane, Bruce... Paul Ince. Why does the latter (have to) start with Macclesfield and MK Dons whereas the others walk into top jobs at top clubs?

Because he's an idiot?

Ince has taught us a valuable lesson this season.

Never leave a black man in charge?

Some of us already knew that.

Kimbo wrote:

Allez les rouges wrote:I'm not generally one to be arguing for systemic racism on a topic like this but: Robson, Hughes, Keane, Bruce... Paul Ince. Why does the latter (have to) start with Macclesfield and MK Dons whereas the others walk into top jobs at top clubs?

Because he's an idiot?

Ince has taught us a valuable lesson this season.

He's right about Hughes, even without the takeover and Robinho, the shouldn't be 17th.

WE WANT SVEN

Ricardo Jol wrote:Why nobody mentioned Menzo?

He is successful today with Volemdam. He is on the brink to promote Volendam to the Eredivisie. He was assistent of Van Basten in Oranje.

BTW.
Rijkaard, Ten Cate are successful.. I don't know what you can do much more to be successful.. Maybe it is time to leave for Rijkaard but he did a tremendous job out there.

So it is not too bad with "black" coaches in the Netherlands.

On the other hand when can you call some one "black". I mean, can you call Aron Winter black? He is half Hindu or you'd better say a Moksie (mixed)...

Is Gullit black? He loves his white mum and he hated his black father

Is he still at Volendam?

Axeslammer wrote:Mohammed Allach as (very successful) technical director is even more rare...

It's a shame he is though : he should go into national politics, one of the very few people who can bridge the Muslim - non Muslim gap. He'd immediately get my vote...

Is he still a technical director. If so where?

The HuddFather wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Allez les rouges wrote:I'm not generally one to be arguing for systemic racism on a topic like this but: Robson, Hughes, Keane, Bruce... Paul Ince. Why does the latter (have to) start with Macclesfield and MK Dons whereas the others walk into top jobs at top clubs?

Because he's an idiot?

Ince has taught us a valuable lesson this season.

He's right about Hughes, even without the takeover and Robinho, the shouldn't be 17th.

WE WANT SVEN

They'll probably hire Jol in the summer

EMP wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:Mohammed Allach as (very successful) technical director is even more rare...

It's a shame he is though : he should go into national politics, one of the very few people who can bridge the Muslim - non Muslim gap. He'd immediately get my vote...

Is he still a technical director. If so where?

I still think the age factor (that correlates immediately with integration and acceptance rate) has been grossly overlooked in this thread.

I'd be extremely surprised if the amount of non-white managers (allochtonen anyone) won't have doubled in the next 10 years.

A non-white technical director is of course even more rare, because that's the natural fase *after* being a manager....and normally a higher age group.

That Allach at his age is already a successful technical director says enough about his abilities



(Allach from the days that he was a FC Groningen player)

Mohammed Allach has been technical director for VVV (championship club) for a few years : they were promoted to the Eredivisie because of his and Wetzel's (manager, see also in this thread) good work.

VVV did well, they came close to staying up...but got relegated in the end. Wetzel made the move to his "own" city : he's doing well with Den Haag now (even I like them nowadays ) and Allach moved to the technical director's position at Twente and is McClaren's boss

Googling him I found this interesting bit :

Mo Allach in BBC-documentaire
VENLO - De zesvoudige reeks BBC-documentaires onder de titel World Weddings (Wereldhuwelijken) besteedt op 20 september (aanvang 23.00 uur BBC 2) ruime aandacht aan VVV-voetballer Mohammed (Mo) Allach. Met zijn vrouw Sanne Bijlhout is de geboren Hagenaar het afgelopen jaar bij diverse wedstrijden gevolgd door een Brits camerateam. Ook was de BBC-ploeg aanwezig op de huwelijksdag van de 31-jarige verdediger.


Volgens de BBC is Allach als moslim een beroemde voetballer in Nederland. De Britse omroep ziet in de voormalige speler van Excelsior, Feyenoord, FC Groningen, Dordrecht'90 en FC Twente een toonbeeld van tolerantie tussen verschillende godsdiensten en rassen. Zijn huwelijk met zijn Nederlandse echtgenote Sanne is daarvan volgens de BBC het levende bewijs.

De aflevering met Mo Allach in de hoofdrol is getiteld Game of Two Halves, vrij vertaald 'een wedstrijd met twee gezichten'.


Echt een hele aardige kerel die Allach...........
Leuk dat hij eens zo in het zonnetje word gezet

Apparently Allach has been part of a BBC-documentary about weddings around the world...

See also this link : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/this_world/4237356.stm

Axeslammer wrote:Allach moved to the technical director's position at Twente and is McClaren's boss

Seems I was wrong there : the previous manager was manager and technical director in one (extremely rare in Holland), now the technical directorship is shared between McClaren and Allach.

They've created the function "assistent technical manager" for Allach....but knowing him he's probably running the show.

EMP wrote:

Ricardo Jol wrote:Why nobody mentioned Menzo?

He is successful today with Volemdam. He is on the brink to promote Volendam to the Eredivisie. He was assistent of Van Basten in Oranje.

BTW.
Rijkaard, Ten Cate are successful.. I don't know what you can do much more to be successful.. Maybe it is time to leave for Rijkaard but he did a tremendous job out there.

So it is not too bad with "black" coaches in the Netherlands.

On the other hand when can you call some one "black". I mean, can you call Aron Winter black? He is half Hindu or you'd better say a Moksie (mixed)...

Is Gullit black? He loves his white mum and he hated his black father

Is he still at Volendam?

No, Menzo wanted to make a step higher. He talked with Ghana for the job of national coach. They found him too inexperienced so he started this season without club. After 6 games he took over the job from Juri Koolhof at Cambuur Leeuwarden.

Volendam have the worst coach in the world: Frans Adelaar, FAR worse than Koeman...

Ricardo Jol wrote:

EMP wrote:

Ricardo Jol wrote:Why nobody mentioned Menzo?

He is successful today with Volemdam. He is on the brink to promote Volendam to the Eredivisie. He was assistent of Van Basten in Oranje.

BTW.
Rijkaard, Ten Cate are successful.. I don't know what you can do much more to be successful.. Maybe it is time to leave for Rijkaard but he did a tremendous job out there.

So it is not too bad with "black" coaches in the Netherlands.

On the other hand when can you call some one "black". I mean, can you call Aron Winter black? He is half Hindu or you'd better say a Moksie (mixed)...

Is Gullit black? He loves his white mum and he hated his black father

Is he still at Volendam?

No, Menzo wanted to make a step higher. He talked with Ghana for the job of national coach. They found him too inexperienced so he started this season without club. After 6 games he took over the job from Juri Koolhof at Cambuur Leeuwarden.

Are you sure about that? Ghanian media and people I know there talked about Rajevac and an Austrian being interviewed for the job.

Volendam have the worst coach in the world: Frans Adelaar, FAR worse than Koeman...

In that case I look forward to seeing them on the 21st. I expect a complete horror show after such a build up. Hope I won't be disappointed. I take it that he is a shoe-in for this season's Koeman Award for worst coach of the Year.

EMP wrote: I take it that he is a shoe-in for this season's Koeman Award for worst coach of the Year.

How can you be the worst coach if you win the cup with the worst bunch of players since the sport turned professional ?!

Axeslammer wrote:

EMP wrote: I take it that he is a shoe-in for this season's Koeman Award for worst coach of the Year.

How can you be the worst coach if you win the cup with the worst bunch of players since the sport turned professional ?!

Because Adelaar relegated with Den Haag while it was completely unnecessary. He always focus more on "good" football than too win games...

On that he might be the best coach in the world!

On Ghana... He talked with them but I guess he wasn't one of the first candidates

Axeslammer wrote:

EMP wrote: I take it that he is a shoe-in for this season's Koeman Award for worst coach of the Year.

How can you be the worst coach if you win the cup with the worst bunch of players since the sport turned professional ?!

Because it was won in spite of him not because of him. Amazing how basically the same squad are third in La Liga in the Copa del Rey and UEFA as well under Emery, but were flirting with relegation under Koeman. Keep trying Axe, but Koeman was appalling at Valencia -hence the award is named in his honour. However, unless others know better he won't be nominated this season.

Funny, Axe defends Koeman, but attacks Ramos for basically doing the same thing...

The HuddFather wrote:Funny, Axe defends Koeman, but attacks Ramos for basically doing the same thing...

But Ramos didn't inherit a club in contention in all competitions and lead them towards relegation. Koeman did and had to be sacked before he complete the job of relegating us. Hope he does well elsewhere, but never want him to set foot near Valencia again.

The HuddFather wrote:Funny, Axe defends Koeman, but attacks Ramos for basically doing the same thing...

The Koeman defending has nothing to do with Koeman, just with EMP

Axeslammer wrote:

The HuddFather wrote:Funny, Axe defends Koeman, but attacks Ramos for basically doing the same thing...

The Koeman defending has nothing to do with Koeman, just with EMP

And the Koeman denunciations have nothing to do with the man himself any more, just you Axe. But Koeman was a useless git at Valencia.

Paul Ince

Axeslammer wrote:Paul Ince

The Irony...

Wasn't he the reason for starting this thread...? He would never get a chance because England is too racist...

He got a chance, he pulled a Ramos.

borocooper wrote:He got a chance, he pulled a Robson Ramos.

Ramos>>>>>Ince

I bet Ince would do great in Spain.

borocooper wrote:I bet Ince would do great in Spain.

Doing what? cleaning the roads or selling hash to tourists? That's all i've seen blacks do in spain... Can't imagine a black manager going down too well in spain. They would be chucking bananas at him the first chance they get.

Lordanger wrote:

borocooper wrote:I bet Ince would do great in Spain.

Doing what? cleaning the roads or selling hash to tourists? That's all i've seen blacks do in spain... Can't imagine a black manager going down too well in spain. They would be chucking bananas at him the first chance they get.

Rijkaard?