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    Post by Sheffield gunner Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:09 pm

    This could be a really poor round in the CL, even by the usually dour standards of the competition. Man Utd are comfortably through despite playing defensive, uninspiring football. Barcelona are playing poorly but should still go through fairly easily. I doubt our games against Liverpool will be great viewing, so unless Fenerbahce can surprise Chelsea a bit it isn't a promising round.
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    Post by Machiavel Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:09 pm

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    Post by shazlx Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:10 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    L r d wrote:This team is great.

    When Vidic went off i wasnt sure how the game would go but it never changed anything. Ronaldo 3 goals in 5 cl away games, so the author of that ridiculous article should now be sacked. top cl scorer top prem scorer, given the rough treatment all night but he dealt with it well in the end.

    Rooney was great as well. Rio motm - were you watching Bobo?

    This team is truely great, and is clearly the best team in the world right now. I hope so much they win the cl because it really deserves to win it.

    If that's the case then we should all just give up.


    Rooney, Scholes, Evra and Rio are credible but the rest are gash.

    Not Micky Carrick?

    Has ability yet still manages to be tiresome.
    Sometimes he can be amazing but for performances like this I don't rate him. You know a less talent player like Flamini would have done more in this match and don't just say its because he can run more, look at Hargreaves.
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:10 pm

    shazlx wrote: I don't like players like Inzaghi, Trezequet, Cruz and now Fronaldo who only score and don't do much else.

    Doesn't do much else ?

    He usually is diving so much that he is crying out of tiredness Ale
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    Post by shazlx Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:12 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    L r d wrote:This team is great.

    When Vidic went off i wasnt sure how the game would go but it never changed anything. Ronaldo 3 goals in 5 cl away games, so the author of that ridiculous article should now be sacked. top cl scorer top prem scorer, given the rough treatment all night but he dealt with it well in the end.

    Rooney was great as well. Rio motm - were you watching Bobo?

    This team is truely great, and is clearly the best team in the world right now. I hope so much they win the cl because it really deserves to win it.

    If that's the case then we should all just give up.


    Rooney, Scholes, Evra and Rio are credible but the rest are gash.
    At least there is The Arsenal left to entertain Europe Very Happy bounce Basketball bom
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    Post by Machiavel Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:12 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    L r d wrote:This team is great.

    When Vidic went off i wasnt sure how the game would go but it never changed anything. Ronaldo 3 goals in 5 cl away games, so the author of that ridiculous article should now be sacked. top cl scorer top prem scorer, given the rough treatment all night but he dealt with it well in the end.

    Rooney was great as well. Rio motm - were you watching Bobo?

    This team is truely great, and is clearly the best team in the world right now. I hope so much they win the cl because it really deserves to win it.

    If that's the case then we should all just give up.


    Rooney, Scholes, Evra and Rio are credible but the rest are gash.
    At least there is The Arsenal left to entertain Europe Very Happy bounce Basketball bom

    lol!
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    Post by S4P Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:12 pm

    Fergie says that Ronaldo is targeted by opposition players. Didn't really pay much attention to it until tonight but a couple of times I saw him do a couple of scissor kicks and chops when there was nobody within 3 yards of him. Some may say that looks good, but I kind of think that is fairly taunting to the opposition players. Sure you should be doing those kind of tricks and turns when you're trying to beat an opponent but to do it when they're standing back and you have absolutely zero chance of fooling them is pretty sad imo and I know that if I was still playing and someone did that to me, I'd want to kick them too.
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    Post by Super Progress Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:13 pm

    Sheffield gunner wrote:This could be a really poor round in the CL, even by the usually dour standards of the competition. Man Utd are comfortably through despite playing defensive, uninspiring football. Barcelona are playing poorly but should still go through fairly easily. I doubt our games against Liverpool will be great viewing, so unless Fenerbahce can surprise Chelsea a bit it isn't a promising round.
    Well Cl football is rarely inspiring but it seems it is almost getting worse this season. im found in a position of watching games where both teams play defensive and it is hard to find a team to cheer for. Only Fenerbache and Barcelona are not afraid to play football. the rest are defensive and pragmatic to a degree.
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    Post by shazlx Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:13 pm

    L r d wrote:
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    Tweedle wrote:Jez!! SAF admitting he made a tactical error. What next? Yikes

    Ronaldo doing something skillful ?


    Miss his goal v Villa Laughing
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    Post by COTR Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:13 pm

    L r d wrote:

    Barca wont be favourites with their own supporters.

    Horrible display? dear oh dear. It was the perfect away performance. Of course they would have to come at man utd in the second half, they couldn't go to old trafford with anything less than a win. But not surprising we picked them off and basically ended the tie.

    You claimed the team plays rubbish football every week COTR, yet for some reason it keeps getting compared to the best brazil teams, and on the weekend displayed the best performance you will see anywhere all season.

    You appear more deluded than when pool were gonna win the title.

    Ronaldo > Best Northern Ireland's finest nothing on this guy Biggrin <Ale>

    The villa match was one of the only games this season I have enjoyed lrd and actually thought you played great, watchable football in.

    For most of the season, it has felt like watching united tonight. Your success is built purely on a brilliant defensive partnership (the real stars of this team). Ronaldo then somehow seems to be getting all the breaks in the box. This can be attributed to immense luck, or he is just a brilliant poacher.

    I used to really enjoy watching united in europe. The football was great, the team had great balance and fergie actually went out to attack. Nowadays rooney is pretty much always played as a left back away from home, ronaldo just spends the entire match trying to beat everyone himself and he starts people like giggs and park over strikers like tevez and saha.

    Now you really cannot blame me for not enjoying this '$h!t on a stick' cheers
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:13 pm

    Well pleased with that, Rio was superb and Rooney and Ronaldo did a great job in attack with and without the ball. Even O'Shea came on and did fine. Tonight did show that Anderson has along way to go but he's still learning.

    Won £70 as well. Very Happy

    Just really hope Vidic is not out for long but at the very least it could be two weeks. Erm
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    Post by Batman Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:15 pm

    Ronaldo scored one goal

    nearly scored two but the Roma keeper made a fine save

    should have had one assist if Rooneys finishing was better

    tracked back

    the only thing i can complain about is Ronaldo not hitting the target from the Tevez pass.
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    Post by Super Progress Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:15 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Well pleased with that, Rio was superb and Rooney and Ronaldo did a great job in attack with and without the ball. Even O'Shea came on and did fine. Tonight did show that Anderson has along way to go but he's still learning.

    Won £70 as well. Very Happy

    Just really hope Vidic is not out for long but at the very least it could be two weeks. Erm
    how do you know? or are you just guesing?
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    Post by Machiavel Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:15 pm

    Supermadrid wrote:
    Sheffield gunner wrote:This could be a really poor round in the CL, even by the usually dour standards of the competition. Man Utd are comfortably through despite playing defensive, uninspiring football. Barcelona are playing poorly but should still go through fairly easily. I doubt our games against Liverpool will be great viewing, so unless Fenerbahce can surprise Chelsea a bit it isn't a promising round.
    Well Cl football is rarely inspiring but it seems it is almost getting worse this season. im found in a position of watching games where both teams play defensive and it is hard to find a team to cheer for. Only Fenerbache and Barcelona are not afraid to play football. the rest are defensive and pragmatic to a degree.

    Well Barça have to attack their defence don't leave much to the imagination, hence why a better team than Schalke will have a chance, i.e. Real Betis or Valencia.
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    Post by Super Progress Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:18 pm

    Markus wrote:
    Supermadrid wrote:
    Sheffield gunner wrote:This could be a really poor round in the CL, even by the usually dour standards of the competition. Man Utd are comfortably through despite playing defensive, uninspiring football. Barcelona are playing poorly but should still go through fairly easily. I doubt our games against Liverpool will be great viewing, so unless Fenerbahce can surprise Chelsea a bit it isn't a promising round.
    Well Cl football is rarely inspiring but it seems it is almost getting worse this season. im found in a position of watching games where both teams play defensive and it is hard to find a team to cheer for. Only Fenerbache and Barcelona are not afraid to play football. the rest are defensive and pragmatic to a degree.

    Well Barça have to attack their defence don't leave much to the imagination, hence why a better team than Schalke will have a chance, i.e. Real Betis or Valencia.
    actually they dont because their defence has been better then their attack this season. recently their defence has gone back a bit and they still attack so i give props for that type of attacking football. they shouldnt underestimated because some times teams can use Cl football as a escape from the league.
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:23 pm

    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

    Ferdinand struggling with Vucinic though thats not suprising.

    lol!

    Did you like that performance Bobo? Razz


    Pages 17 - 22 are hilarious, 2-0 away in the CL quarter finals and everyone is bitching. Very Happy
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:24 pm

    Supermadrid wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:Well pleased with that, Rio was superb and Rooney and Ronaldo did a great job in attack with and without the ball. Even O'Shea came on and did fine. Tonight did show that Anderson has along way to go but he's still learning.

    Won £70 as well. Very Happy

    Just really hope Vidic is not out for long but at the very least it could be two weeks. Erm
    how do you know? or are you just guesing?

    Guessing but it looked nasty. Really can't see him playing at the weekend.
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    Post by S4P Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:25 pm

    Lawro offers us some insight:

    "It was a very good performance from all the players, bearing in mind they lost Nemanja Vidic in the first half. When you go to away grounds at this stage of the competition, and you have a Wayne Rooney and a Cristiano Ronaldo who always pose a threat, it's very difficult for the home team to cope with."

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    Post by Machiavel Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:27 pm

    Supermadrid wrote:
    Markus wrote:
    Supermadrid wrote:
    Sheffield gunner wrote:This could be a really poor round in the CL, even by the usually dour standards of the competition. Man Utd are comfortably through despite playing defensive, uninspiring football. Barcelona are playing poorly but should still go through fairly easily. I doubt our games against Liverpool will be great viewing, so unless Fenerbahce can surprise Chelsea a bit it isn't a promising round.
    Well Cl football is rarely inspiring but it seems it is almost getting worse this season. im found in a position of watching games where both teams play defensive and it is hard to find a team to cheer for. Only Fenerbache and Barcelona are not afraid to play football. the rest are defensive and pragmatic to a degree.

    Well Barça have to attack their defence don't leave much to the imagination, hence why a better team than Schalke will have a chance, i.e. Real Betis or Valencia.
    actually they dont because their defence has been better then their attack this season. recently their defence has gone back a bit and they still attack so i give props for that type of attacking football. they shouldnt underestimated because some times teams can use Cl football as a escape from the league.

    We know who those teams are, as you say recently their defence has not been doing well but there are other problems such as do Barcelona have a plan B, against a team like Schalke sure they can play their usual game but what happens if Schalke do a Real Betis..maybe against a better opposition they will raise their game but as we saw against Real Madrid or Villarreal was there a plan B? I can understand the Barça fans pessimism.
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    Post by Super Progress Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:36 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

    Ferdinand struggling with Vucinic though thats not suprising.

    lol!

    Did you like that performance Bobo? Razz


    Pages 17 - 22 are hilarious, 2-0 away in the CL quarter finals and everyone is bitching. Very Happy
    Im mad because once again i watch Cl football in hope i can see some great football and i get this Cr@p. two teams afraid to play football and the team playing most bad imo getting all the rewards. It is not a personal thing but i just hate when this happens no matter if it is Man utd,Milan, Real and esp Barca. Smile i dont think Man utd did anything in the game that i liked while Roma played in 25 mins after the second half but otherwise were Cr@p too. of course when it is ones own team one will get annoyed so i apologise for shiting on your victory which is great result. so congrats but you wont hear me praise this type of football.
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:42 pm

    Another boring football purist. cheers
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    Post by debaser Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:43 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    L r d wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Jez!! SAF admitting he made a tactical error. What next? Yikes

    Ronaldo doing something skillful ?


    Miss his goal v Villa Laughing
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    Post by COTR Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:45 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Another boring football purist. cheers

    Come on spank. You must admit that was a wretched game to watch.

    Hell people have given liverpool enough stick over the years for approaching games in the same safety first manner so united deserve the same after this game and most of your others in europe.

    There was simply nothing interesting to watch so it's not about being a purist, it's about not being bored stupid for 90 minutes

    It's obviously a brilliant result, however it was somehow achieved Biggrin
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    Post by L.r.d Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:47 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    L r d wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Jez!! SAF admitting he made a tactical error. What next? Yikes

    Ronaldo doing something skillful ?


    Miss his goal v Villa Laughing

    Arsenal 1-1
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    He does great things every week, true indication of talent. A goal in big games and outstanding stuff every other game will do me, and if he has a season like this for the next 5 years he will go down as the best player thats ever lived, put that in your boobah and smoke it Biggrin
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    Post by L.r.d Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:49 pm

    COTR wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:Another boring football purist. cheers

    Come on spank. You must admit that was a wretched game to watch.

    Hell people have given liverpool enough stick over the years for approaching games in the same safety first manner so united deserve the same after this game and most of your others in europe.

    There was simply nothing interesting to watch so it's not about being a purist, it's about not being bored stupid for 90 minutes

    It's obviously a brilliant result, however it was somehow achieved Biggrin

    It was not a good game if you wanted Roma to win i agree. It was not a good game if you dislike cristiano. It was not a good game if you claim man utd are $h!t in europe or away from home. So i can see why you think this was a poor game yet pool beating inter was a very good game.
    Laughing <Ale> Biggrin
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    Post by Super Progress Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:49 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Another boring football purist. cheers
    Im sorry i offended you but dont you think football has become worse and more boring in recent years. I like to watch when two teams try to go for it but i hate when teams are scared of commiting many men forward and only rely on counters. is that hard to understand?
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:51 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

    Ferdinand struggling with Vucinic though thats not suprising.

    lol!

    Did you like that performance Bobo? Razz


    Pages 17 - 22 are hilarious, 2-0 away in the CL quarter finals and everyone is bitching. Very Happy

    Nah i didnt, both teams were Cr@p.

    Ferdinands performance was overrated but he did have some good moments like that interception at the end of the first half <Ale>
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    Post by COTR Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:53 pm

    L r d wrote:
    COTR wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:Another boring football purist. cheers

    Come on spank. You must admit that was a wretched game to watch.

    Hell people have given liverpool enough stick over the years for approaching games in the same safety first manner so united deserve the same after this game and most of your others in europe.

    There was simply nothing interesting to watch so it's not about being a purist, it's about not being bored stupid for 90 minutes

    It's obviously a brilliant result, however it was somehow achieved Biggrin

    It was not a good game if you wanted Roma to win i agree. It was not a good game if you dislike cristiano. It was not a good game if you claim man utd are $h!t in europe or away from home. So i can see why you think this was a poor game yet pool beating inter was a very good game.
    Laughing <Ale> Biggrin

    Biggrin

    This is why supermadrid added in the sentence about fans from teams involved obviously not agreeing with him lrd ie you

    This was the purest form of $h!t on a stick tonight.

    Fergie has finally mastered it. Now let's see if he can do it against a better team than roma over two legs. I'm betting he won't <Ale>
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    Post by robert Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:55 pm

    Funny how we are now the sacrificial lambs of all that is wrong with football. Arsenal switch to 4-5-1 and make it to the finals, ok. Liverpool play pragmatic home and away.

    Italian teams in the 90's playing the same systems, not a problem, I haven't managed to see 15+ pages of vitriol about their $h!t but oh now, now that Man utd do it, tis death to football. Juve went to 4 straight finals in the 90's playing roughly the same brand away from home but we are the death of CL football. Yay!


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    Post by Machiavel Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:55 pm

    I’m betting supermadrid misses the Ajax team of the mid 1990s Biggrin , they went for it didn’t give a $h!t if they played Bayern Munich, Milan or Real Madrid went out to kill them and they did Ale

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