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    Arsenal FC Summer 2008 Thread

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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed May 21, 2008 4:18 pm

    Yeah Nasri is better, I just wanted Ben Arfa for the reasons I stated. One advantage of having him though is we'll have someone with a bit of experience as a back up for Cesc(Denilson is relatively inexperienced)

    If Hleb does leave(God I hope not), I'd like us to bring in 2 wide players as I wouldn't like us going into the season relying on Rosicky and Diaby to stay fit for the rest of the season.
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Wed May 21, 2008 7:22 pm

    BM Ale wrote:
    Sheffield gunner wrote:Sorry! Laughing

    I did say 'apparently', I was merely passing on a rumour rather than fact!

    "No Press Conference due to Black Magic being a stupid WUM" is what the moderator changed to the title of the topic I created because of your post. Embarassed Laughing

    sorry but

    lol!
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    Post by Black Magic Wed May 21, 2008 7:28 pm

    TheCrazy58 wrote:
    BM Ale wrote:
    Sheffield gunner wrote:Sorry! Laughing

    I did say 'apparently', I was merely passing on a rumour rather than fact!

    "No Press Conference due to Black Magic being a stupid WUM" is what the moderator changed to the title of the topic I created because of your post. Embarassed Laughing

    sorry but

    lol!

    Actually it was Elche, apparently you can change the name of your topics now. <Ale>
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    Post by Cesc Soler Thu May 22, 2008 12:15 am

    No nothing happened today. Smile

    Hopefully Alive & Kicking is right and we seal the deal for Nasri tomorrow, a couple of signings before the kickoff of Euro 2008 is just what we need.

    Loic Perrin could be the Flamini replacement, Benzema will not be possible for any club until 2010.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Thu May 22, 2008 12:33 am

    BM Ale wrote:A little info that sounds promising for Chantome:

    Rising through the ranks of PSG's youth academy, his appearances have already drawn likenesses to Didier Deschamps in terms of his determination and ballwinning ability.

    A strong midfield player, the wonderkid was offered a three year contract by then Paris St. Germain manager Guy Lacombe in September of 2006, and has since made consistent appearances in the struggling club's first team.

    Of all players likely to hold a long-term future with PSG, Chantome looks a good chance to retain his spot and develop further into a player of real class. His call-up to France's U/21 squad in October of 2006 is testament to the regard in which he is held by the FFF
    Thanks for that BM.

    It looks a strong possibility that he will be our next number 16, certainly sounds the part anyway. With the lack of experience in the midfield and the squad as a whole I think we will retain Gilberto for another year.
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    Post by DS Thu May 22, 2008 9:55 am

    Arsenal's £12m bid for Marseille playmaker Samir Nasri is in jeopardy of being hijacked by Lyon.
    Nasri was expected in London yesterday with reports in the
    French press depicting his proposed transfer to the Gunners as a done
    deal. However, there was no sign of Nasri at the Emirates Stadium on
    Wednesday and it has since emerged that Lyon have lodged their own bid
    for his services. "No agreement has been finalised. It's true we are looking into
    a bid by Arsenal that interests Nasri in sporting terms, but it's also
    true that other offers have entered my office," Jean-Pierre Bernes,
    Nasri's agent, told The Daily Telegraph.
    "Samir Nasri can't already be considered an Arsenal player, not at all. It's premature."
    Although Arsenal are thought to have reached an agreement with
    Marseille, Lyon may be prepared to use winger Hatem Ben Arfa, a player
    with whom the Gunners have also been linked, as bait.
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    Post by fcb Thu May 22, 2008 10:31 am

    Lyon president Aulas made some bizarre comments yesterday, saying that "I would rather prefer to sell my players to French clubs and boost the level of Ligue 1, rather than sell abroad". This was in relation to the Ben Arfa-->Marseille rumours.

    Bizarre comments, why would you want to sell a good player to a team who is most likely to be your title rival next year scratch
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    Post by Cesc Soler Thu May 22, 2008 10:35 am

    He is bizarre at times.

    Apparently when the final whistle went in Lyon's last game of the season, Ben Arfa immediately asked a TV reporter on the pitch about the Marseille result asking them if they qualified for the Champions League. He wants to stay in France as well with them.

    The only advantage for Arsenal is that Nasri said that he has no interest in playing for another French club. I really think this will be tied up soon.


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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu May 22, 2008 10:36 am

    he realises that Ligue 1 could get very boring IF they continue to keep winning the league each and every season and that the TV revenues will decline. All these teams need competition without it they have nothing
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    Post by Black Magic Thu May 22, 2008 12:28 pm

    http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=news&article=491726&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Mexican+striker+Carlos+Vela+granted+a+work+permit

    Carlitos! cheers
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Thu May 22, 2008 12:29 pm

    "He was a regular in the side, scoring three goals in 32 appearances."

    Our Hleb replacement? Wink
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Thu May 22, 2008 12:38 pm

    Sheffield gunner wrote:"He was a regular in the side, scoring three goals in 32 appearances."

    Our Hleb replacement? Wink


    Hleb would kill to have a 1 in 10 goalscoring ratio.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Thu May 22, 2008 12:42 pm

    Pedro Botelho

    Last summer the signing of Brazilian Pedro Botelho passed by almost unnoticed, as the club continued the trend shown with Carlos Vela by not announcing the transfer, as he was sent to Spanish link club UD Salamanca on loan.

    However Salamanca did announce the deal and the player has his own profile on the clubs official website, in which is stated that he is on loan from Arsenal. Despite media speculation during last week that he will be returning this summer, as Young Guns confirmed last month Pedro will be spending next season also on loan with the Segunda side. Meaning the club do not have to go to FIFA or the Government to gain a work permit required to ply his trade in England, as he will gain European status next year allowing the simple switch to North London.

    After not being able to play until December, due to FIFA rules on Brazilian players not being able to play in Europe until they are 18, Pedro has had a mixed time with injuries and substitute appearances. However when given the chance to play, he has shown some superb skills and the early signs are that he will be an awesome prospect.

    Arsenal have shown how much they value the player, by sending English language professor Peter Murphy to teach Botelho English allowing his return to London to run smoothly. But when he finally arrives next summer, where will he play for Arsenal?.

    He had featured mainly as a left winger for Figueirense, his 189cm frame allowing him the ability to win headers, as well as use his impressive ball control and tricks to outwit opponents. But for Salamanca it seems his long term future lies as a left back.

    Whilst his defensive skills need some polishing, and he posses lethal attacking flair, his physical attributes mean he has been pushed to left full back. With Armand Traore being converted to a winger it seems natural that Pedro will become back up to current number one Gael Clichy. Next season should be a massive year for the player, as he will become a regular and get a full season with Salamanca, so we can see what he is all about.

    You can read more about his skills, as well as see a short video of Pedro in action Here

    Article By - J.Sanderson

    http://youngguns.wordpress.com/2008/05/19/where-will-pedro-botelho-fit-in-arsenals-plans/

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    Never knew anything about his signing unless I must have completely forgotten.

    Here's a video of himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vffmJEaUEw

    Typical Arsenal player; ran the length of the pitch but messed it up in the end.
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    Post by Romford Pele Thu May 22, 2008 4:41 pm

    No news on the Nasri front then. This deal has definitely collapsed. So much for getting our hopes up....
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    Post by Romford Pele Thu May 22, 2008 4:59 pm

    Arsenal sign PSG starlet
    By Pink Football
    22 May 2008

    Arsenal have signed defensive midfielder Clement Chantome from Paris St Germain.

    The 20-year-old is a PSG youth product in the mould of former Juventus and Chelsea star Didier Deschamps, with a precocious strength, skill and determination that have garnered him a place in the France Under-21 squad as well as a fixture in the PSG first team.

    Chantome is one of three young French talents on the verge of signing for Arsenal. Marseille playmaker Samir Nasri and 17-year-old holding midfielder Francis Croquelin (the "new Makelele") are also believed to be in advanced stages of negotiation with the North London club, Croquelin having completed a successful trial with the Gunners.

    Further negotiation could also land Lyon forward Hatem Ben Arfa, another of France's exciting rising stars.


    How true this is I don't know.

    source:Pinkfootball.com
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    Post by The Pröfessör Fri May 23, 2008 11:42 am

    Season Review: Robson - Diaby can fill Flamini void

    By Chris Harris

    Only the most diehard of Gunners fans will have seen more of Arsenal last season than Stewart Robson.

    The former Gunner, now an analyst for Arsenal TV, is a familiar face and voice on the new club channel. Robson provides co-commentary at every home game and the majority of away games. He even steps up to the plate for the occasional reserve-team game, casting an eye over the next generation of Arsenal stars.

    The campaign may have ended on a low note after a failed title challenge, a cruel Champions League exit and the departure of Mathieu Flamini, but Robson believes there are plenty of reasons for Arsenal fans to be cheerful.

    Read on for Robson's take on 2007/08, his player of the season, the man he thinks could replace Flamini and the youngster he expects to break into the first-team fold next season.

    OVERVIEW

    The season finished off a disappointment but in the main I think there are many aspects you can take out of it that are very encouraging. Certainly the style in which Arsenal played, their ability to open up defences, the way Adebayor has taken over the mantle from Henry, the way midfielders like Fabregas have made sure their potential has been fulfilled. Look at Hleb, who was outstanding in the early part of the season and his form up to Christmas was as good as anyone in the League. So there were a lot of good things and they showed that they fear nobody. Even when they lost to Liverpool in the Champions League they totally outplayed them for long periods of the game, they outplayed Manchester United at Old Trafford, they destroyed Chelsea for 60 to 70 minutes. There are a lot of positives to be taken out of the season, and they kept their unbeaten record at Emirates Stadium.

    GOALKEEPERS

    I thought Almunia did well. I know he has his critics but I think in the main his decisions on when to come out, his athleticism and his dealing with the ball in the box made me think he was a very competent goalkeeper. He certainly was not to blame for Arsenal failing to win a trophy. Fabianski has got potential and again looks like a very good athlete. He is very springy in his movements but I think one problem goalkeepers have if they don’t play many games is adjusting to things they don’t do too much in training, like balls over the top and getting an understanding with his defenders. To find out his true potential he needs to play over a longer period.

    DEFENCE

    The back four played really well in the early part of the season and coped really well with the aerial pressure of other teams. They played a high line and I think Toure and Clichy used their pace to get out of trouble. I thought Sagna came in and did really well, not only in the defensive role but also in the air and when he attacked. It went slightly wrong when Toure went to the Africa Cup of Nations because he didn't look his best when he came back. Senderos had a few good games but obviously had a bad time of it at Anfield and we didn’t see him again after that point. As a cohesive unit I still think there is a little bit of work to do to make them champions.

    MIDFIELD

    Flamini got into the team because Gilberto wasn't ready at the start of the season and he played brilliantly. He got around the pitch, he didn’t just break up play, he created things too, switched the play and linked up brilliantly with Fabregas. Cesc got lots of goals early on which got his confidence up and although he had a dip in form just after Christmas, he still dictates play. He makes football look very easy with some of his sumptuous passing. He just knows where the next play is and has great awareness of where other players are. It is almost impossible to get the ball off him at times. My favourite player at the start of the season was Hleb. He did things no other player can do, he twisted and turned, changed the point of attack, got his way out of trouble. I actually think he played at his best behind Adebayor or Van Persie, he didn’t look so happy when he went back into wide areas. They missed Rosicky a lot. He bought invention to their play, is a good runner with the ball and is one wide player who can score goals. If you can get Rosicky fit he will be a wonderful addition to the squad next year.

    STRIKERS

    Adebayor gives Arsenal everything. He can run behind and that is key to Arsenal’s success. Every time Fabregas and Toure got the ball in that right-centre area, Ade would drift in between the centre-halves, pull off the last shoulder and was always looking to get in behind. Or he dropped a little bit deeper and allowed the midfield to play. He got right in the middle of the goal when crosses came in so he was in between the two defenders and got goal after goal with his head. Ade led the line brilliantly. Van Persie never really exploded as we thought he would, obviously due to injury, but you know with his quality, in that role behind Adebayor, he can turn it onto his left-foot and get shots away, he has good vision, good pace. Like Rosicky, if Van Persie is totally fit, he can give another dimension to the attacking play. As for the others, Eduardo was starting to show what he can do when he had that horrendous injury, while Walcott has so much pace and potential that he can’t be ignored. The goal he made at Liverpool, no-one in else in the Premier League probably could have created that goal. With that pace will come power, his game understanding will get better and so will his ball manipulation. I am sure if Theo works with Rosicky, over time he will be able to combine the attributes of Rosicky with his own ones.

    THE NEW FLAMINI?

    In my view it is Diaby. Some worry that he takes too much time on the ball and can get caught, but I remember him from last year in that role and I thought he was ideal. He breaks up attacks with his ability to get across the field and get tackles in, but he has also got good ability on the ball. His ball manipulation allows him to change the point of attack. Playing against Everton last year he was outstanding in the holding role, even though Arsenal lost 1-0 at Goodison Park.

    PLAYER OF THE SEASON

    I have seen a lot of football this season, nearly 200 games, but the top player for me, the player who performs week-in, week-out, is Gael Clichy. I don’t think I have seen a better one v one defender, a player who gets to an attacker so quickly and tries to get the ball back so quickly. He is a destructive defender. Yes he made two mistakes, one at Man City that didn’t cost Arsenal, and the one at Birmingham when he lost concentration, but Gael gave performances week-in week-out that he should be proud of. The fans should recognise him as the premier left-back in world football.

    ONE TO WATCH

    The player who has impressed me with his intelligence, his football understanding, is Barazite. I think he plays very much like Roy Wegerle - he wasn’t a great player but he was a US international, played at the top level and got a championship medal with Blackburn. Barazite, glides across the ground in a similar way and he has a combination of Dennis Bergkamp in his positional play and the athleticism and speed and ease of movement. I think he is the player who I am looking forward to seeing next year. I think he will get Carling Cup games, get goals and get into a position where he is challenging for the Pemier League games.

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    Post by Hlebagone Fri May 23, 2008 11:51 am

    "Playing against Everton last year he was outstanding in the holding role, even though Arsenal lost 1-0 at Goodison Park."

    I thought Diaby played an advanced position in that match?
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Fri May 23, 2008 11:54 am

    Any sign of Nasri yet?
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Fri May 23, 2008 11:55 am

    Hlebadinho wrote:"Playing against Everton last year he was outstanding in the holding role, even though Arsenal lost 1-0 at Goodison Park."

    I thought Diaby played an advanced position in that match?


    This guy's obviously a brainless tosser. Diaby to replace Flamini? That's like Denilson being worth 8 million...
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    Post by The Pröfessör Fri May 23, 2008 12:05 pm

    Hlebadinho wrote:"Playing against Everton last year he was outstanding in the holding role, even though Arsenal lost 1-0 at Goodison Park."

    I thought Diaby played an advanced position in that match?

    No he partnered Fabregas in the centre. I also remember them playing together Vs Birmingham away(he was MOTM), but still I wouldn't trust Diaby to be our 1st choice DM. I would go for Denilson or Song if Arsene didn't buy anyone; they are both more disciplined and better passers of the ball than Diaby.
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    Post by Parks lives Fri May 23, 2008 12:19 pm

    The fans should recognise him as the premier left-back in world football.

    Very Happy
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    Post by The Pröfessör Fri May 23, 2008 12:23 pm

    Parks lives wrote:The fans should recognise him as the premier left-back in world football.

    Very Happy

    Have u got anything more to add?
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    Post by Romford Pele Fri May 23, 2008 12:26 pm

    Fidel wrote:Any sign of Nasri yet?

    Unfortunately not Sad

    Sounded too good to be true. It was too public a Wenger signing. Also add the fact that Nasri is too well known!
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Fri May 23, 2008 12:28 pm

    Hlebtastic wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:The fans should recognise him as the premier left-back in world football.

    Very Happy

    Have u got anything more to add?


    Coming from a man whose main contribution here of late is a cut and paste of a one sided hype article. You fucking retard.
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    Post by Parks lives Fri May 23, 2008 12:28 pm

    No, not really.

    I just find it hilarious that some (and I stress some) Arsenal fans can't just say a great left back. It has to be worlds best, Europe's best or league's best.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Fri May 23, 2008 12:29 pm

    Ray Parlour wrote:
    Fidel wrote:Any sign of Nasri yet?

    Unfortunately not Sad

    Sounded too good to be true. It was too public a Wenger signing. Also add the fact that Nasri is too well known!

    And too expensive. But it's primarily about him having an established reputation as a potentially world class young player. Wenger wants the credit for 'discovering' talent. Indeed, he cares more about this than trophies, it seems.
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    Post by Hlebagone Fri May 23, 2008 12:51 pm

    Parks lives wrote:No, not really.

    I just find it hilarious that some (and I stress some) Arsenal fans can't just say a great left back. It has to be worlds best, Europe's best or league's best.

    Or the league's second best cheers
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    Post by Parks lives Fri May 23, 2008 3:25 pm

    Benitez: Arsenal spend too much

    Rafa Benitez has rather bizarrely claimed that Arsenal over spend on their young players whilst the Liverpool transfer policy is much more economical.

    The Reds manager claimed on Liverpool TV that his side got his young players on the cheap whilst Arsenal over pay.

    'I think we are signing fantastic young players but not spending big, big money. I think that is massive difference between Arsenal and us. They have spent big money on young players for a long time.

    We are signing players that sometimes you only have to pay compensation for, so we are trying to do our best not to spend too much money. If I told you some of the figures we have paid for certain players and what other clubs are paying you'd be surprised.' Said Benitez.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A35902767
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    Post by fcb Fri May 23, 2008 3:29 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Benitez: Arsenal spend too much

    Rafa Benitez has rather bizarrely claimed that Arsenal over spend on their young players whilst the Liverpool transfer policy is much more economical.

    The Reds manager claimed on Liverpool TV that his side got his young players on the cheap whilst Arsenal over pay.

    'I think we are signing fantastic young players but not spending big, big money. I think that is massive difference between Arsenal and us. They have spent big money on young players for a long time.

    We are signing players that sometimes you only have to pay compensation for, so we are trying to do our best not to spend too much money. If I told you some of the figures we have paid for certain players and what other clubs are paying you'd be surprised.' Said Benitez.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A35902767

    c**t.
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    Post by Black Magic Fri May 23, 2008 3:31 pm

    As opposed to buying a countries population worth of teenagers and hoping one of them turns out half decent. Ale

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