Jol to Hamburg now likely

What fee are you expecting?

I personally would love for Barça to sign him, but unfortunately there are no rumours about it

Hard to say, really. As I said, apparently there aren't any offers yet, so I'm afraid we shouldn't hope too much for some sort of bidding race.

There were rumours about Chelsea being interested a while ago, but I haven't heard anything about that for weeks.

I guess, if some big Spanish club wants him, he'd still prefer to go there.

I reckon it's the injuries that may be putting everyone off. He can really put himself in the shop window during Euro 2008. Good performances there, esp. lots of goals, could be the difference between a price tag on either side of 15 million euros.

http://www.welt.de/sport/article2008004/Van_der_Vaart_spricht_erneut_von_Abschied.html

VDV has no real offers from big clubs yet and awaits the European Cup

afterwards he will decided whether to stay or go

Mill1on wrote:afterwards he will decided whether to stay or go

Hehehe. He still thinks he decides that.

Of course, most likely, the club will let him go this summer, but he should finally learn that you can't break contracts unilaterally - and basically just shut up. *sighs*

Honestly, by now I'd be happy, if some other club had to deal with that soon.

Mill1on wrote:http://www.welt.de/sport/article2008004/Van_der_Vaart_spricht_erneut_von_Abschied.html

VDV has no real offers from big clubs yet and awaits the European Cup

afterwards he will decided whether to stay or go

and what if he is only a bench warmer at the Euro's? I can well happen since the competition extreme. There is no country who has so many players available for his position...

will there still be interst from the big clubs?

RicardoJol wrote:

Mill1on wrote:http://www.welt.de/sport/article2008004/Van_der_Vaart_spricht_erneut_von_Abschied.html

VDV has no real offers from big clubs yet and awaits the European Cup

afterwards he will decided whether to stay or go

and what if he is only a bench warmer at the Euro's? I can well happen since the competition extreme. There is no country who has so many players available for his position...

will there still be interst from the big clubs?

Agreed Rick, imo in this form he shouldnt even be selected for the team. I mean he is not better then RVP...so let him stay at home at pick Affelay instead!

@Fey It won't happen because that would causes a lot of fuss in the media and supporters....

But based on the form: Afellay, Van Persie, Robben, Sneijder, Babel, Kuyt had a better season than VdV

howcan RvP have had a better season he was injured for a big chunk of it!!! and robben hasn't been much better.

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:howcan RvP have had a better season he was injured for a big chunk of it!!! and robben hasn't been much better.

But at the moment they were fit they played awsome footie.... VdV played cr@p most of the times!

What about de Jong btw?

Will he warm the bench during Euro or is there actually a chance for him to play?

Lesley wrote:What about de Jong btw?

Will he warm the bench during Euro or is there actually a chance for him to play?

We're all praying Van Bastard will be leaving him at home...

Not much chance though : De Jong used to play for Ajax

Axeslammer wrote:We're all praying Van Bastard will be leaving him at home...

I don't see why, but....well I posted about that in the Oranje thread already.

'Hamburger SV heeft veel potentie'

Martin Jol is woensdagmiddag officieel gepresenteerd als opvolger van Huub Stevens bij Hamburger SV. De Hagenaar werd na enkele plichtplegingen direct onderworpen aan een spervuur van vragen. Duidelijk is in ieder geval dat de coach iets neer wil zetten. “Het is ten slotte de op één na grootste club van Duitsland.”

In eerste instantie had Jol er niet eens over nagedacht om ergens anders te gaan werken dan in Engeland. Ook daar stonden de clubs in de rij. “Ik wilde in Londen blijven, en had daar ook de mogelijkheden voor. Toen ik werd gebeld door HSV heb ik nog geen vijf minuten nagedacht,” aldus de stralende oud-trainer van onder meer RKC en Tottenham Hotspur.

”Hamburg is een club met veel traditie. Naast dat hier vele grote voetballers hebben gespeeld is het na Bayern München de grootste club van Duitsland. Nadat ik enkele gesprekken had gevoerd heb ik overlegd met mijn familie en daar zijn we snel uitgekomen. Ik zie dit als een grote uitdaging.”

Jol denkt dat hij de over het algemeen vrij jonge ploeg van die Rothosen een hoop kan leren. “De ploeg moet zich verder ontwikkelen. We gaan al Europa in, maar ik denk dat alle ingrediënten aanwezig zijn om nog verder te komen dan dat. Ik heb de afgelopen 6 à 7 weken aandachtig toegekeken en zie veel potentieel.”

Ook heeft hij al een speelwijze voor ogen. “Ik laat mijn ploegen altijd offensief spelen. We hebben hier in Duitsland misschien nog geen buitenspelers zoals in Nederland en Engeland, maar ik zie wel parallellen met mijn vorige club Tottenham. Ook HSV heeft de afgelopen jaren attractief gespeeld, en met die 7-0 tegen Karlsruhe zijn we al op de goede weg,” lachte Jol.

Ten slotte werd de 52-jarige coach ook nog even ondervraagd over zijn vorige werkgever. “Ik vind dat het daar goed gedaan heb. Over het algemeen zijn trainers in Engeland niet langer dan 15-16 maanden in dienst, ik heb het er vier jaar uitgehouden. In 25 jaar tijd had de club twee maal Europees voetbal bereikt. Je hebt in Engeland een top vier, en ik ben twee keer vijfde geworden waardoor we de UEFA Cup in konden. Toen ik wegging stonden we zestiende, maar tot op het laatste moment heb ik me daar gelukkig gevoeld.”


Basically he says he see's a lot of potential at HSV..because they are the biggest team of Germany after Bayern.

He actually wanted to stay in London..but then HSV called and he didnt need to think for more then 5 minutes!!!

What a guy

Today's press conference with Martin Jol

(in German obviously)

Seems to be a great guy indeed.

Lesley wrote:Today's press conference with Martin Jol

(in German obviously)

Seems to be a great guy indeed.

Great stuff!!! His German is just as cool as his English!! Look how he is sitting in that chair...he really is Tony Soprano

Fey wrote:'Hamburger SV heeft veel potentie'
“Het is ten slotte de op één na grootste club van Duitsland.”

Fantastic! BLUT would love and kiss this phrase....

He tells the Stellinger what they want to hear, and what they actually still believe themselves, despite not having the results to back it up for more than two decades.

See you next season.

blutgraetsche wrote:He tells the Stellinger what they want to hear, and what they actually still believe themselves, despite not having the results to back it up for more than two decades.

See you next season.

Bitter

About what? About winning both derbies this season (again)? About being twelve points ahead of them in the table? etc.

About what Fey?

H.S.V. Die Nummer 1 im Norden

Show your Europa Cup eins Pokal ...?

blutgraetsche wrote:

About what? About winning both derbies this season (again)? About being twelve points ahead of them in the table? etc.

About what Fey?

Blut!

HSV are HUGE. They are outselling so many clubs when it comes to shirts in this country. Every time Schaaf takes a holiday in this country he thinks he is in Hamburg

They will end above Bremen next year!!!

We won the cup winners cup. But that's not even the point, you just don't get it. The league is the bread and butter, if you don't get the results in the league, for decades that is, there is no way for you to be the #1 in anything. Hell, even Wolfsburg could overtake them in near future...

Besides, HSV of 1983 is very different to HSV 2008. While the former won the European Cup indeed, the latter is not even playing in the CL. And if they actually do, they manage to embarass the league.

All excuses and you knows it!

blutgraetsche wrote:About what? About winning both derbies this season (again)?

"Again?"

Did I just imagine that one last season? You know, second half? Weserstadion 0-2?

Besides, it's interesting to see how you almost spend more time on bitching about HSV than talking about the oh-so-wunderful Werder Bremen. Still that dull over there? Poor thing.

Err what? I suggest you actually read the thread while you are at it, and you may see that it's not me who seems obsessed with anything. I just replied to a couple of wind up attempts, as a favour to our Dutch friends on here. I know they'd be depressed if I didn't...

And how can you possibly be more dull than HSV this season?

blutgraetsche wrote:
And how can you possibly be more dull than HSV this season?

HSV next season !

Jol has got no material to work with : Bremen will finish at least 6 places above the Hanseaten

Nah, Jol can't be that bad. They will lose VDV, but they will get some money for him, so they should be able to replace him adequately. Expect Hamburg to finish on a UEFA Cup spot again next season, minimum 6th (intertoto).

If not, they should fire him, because he earns a lot of money.

blutgraetsche wrote: because he earnsreceives a lot of money.

Fixed it for you

I heard something like 2.4 or 2.8 M euros a year ?

That's insane

I read about €8m for two years, for him and his staff that is. Posted an article earlier in this thread.

But hey, the Hamburg fans will probably just say "wir haben es ja"...