Premier League discussion 23/24/25 of August

zizoued wrote:
RVP's shot was so close to the right post, and Ade hit the post. none of the freekicks were on the target. nasri didn't pass to another player free, but tried a curler. he should have passed, and it could have even been 1-1 in last few minutes.

So Arsenal had 2 chances (RVP's and Adeboyor's) and Fulham had 2 chances (the goal and Zamora's).

Not sure how you can judge from that, Arsenal had alot of chances and Fulham created nothing bar the goal.

Glenn Hysén wrote:

L.r.d wrote:

Glenn Hysén wrote:

L.r.d wrote:

zizoued wrote:Lvierpool played badly, but they got the result. Now that looks like a team that's likely to challenge for the title.

Liverpool - top of the league

Man Chester - bottom 6

Wahre Glenn

Are you boring yourself as much as you're boring me?

bitter?

Not really dude?

Parks lives wrote:

zizoued wrote:
RVP's shot was so close to the right post, and Ade hit the post. none of the freekicks were on the target. nasri didn't pass to another player free, but tried a curler. he should have passed, and it could have even been 1-1 in last few minutes.

So Arsenal had 2 chances (RVP's and Adeboyor's) and Fulham had 2 chances (the goal and Zamora's).

Not sure how you can judge from that, Arsenal had alot of chances and Fulham created nothing bar the goal.

Groundhog day all over gain. I said, none of the fulham shots were remotely close to challengin the goal. The corner is one, and Arsenal had two closest possible chances, and wayward shooting which were much more threatening than fulham's. I've had enough arguing with you mate. If you're so bloody particular that fulham dominated. So be it. You happy.

Have you completely forgotten Seol Ki-Hyeon cross to Zamora which went over the bar by a yard? It was closer to challenging the goal than van Persie's shot.

Parks lives wrote:Have you completely forgotten Seol Ki-Hyeon cross to Zamora which went over the bar by a yard? It was closer to challenging the goal than van Persie's shot.

here we go again. I remember that was about two feets above the bar. RVP's was so much more close. Okay,

Parks lives wrote:

zizoued wrote:

Valon Deano Behrami wrote:

zizoued wrote:Asenal had chances, set pieces and corners, they didn't finish. They're fucking around the box too much. Regardless, this is just a shitty performance for Arse. Fulham had nothing remotely close on goal except for the corner.

WTF . You must've watched a different game to me then. Arsenal had hardly any chances...Fulham were all over them and deserved their win.

arse hit the bar, rvp missed quite a lot, nasri, had a pop, etc.

Fulham midfielders didn't do much sticking near Zamora, at best Davies had a wayward shot from just outside the box. So, any other chances that even tested almunia? none I believe...

So they count as decent chances?

Has AGooner got a second account or something?

He has at least one extra account, but this isn't it. It's just another Arsenal loving prat who can't admit that they just weren't good enough. I'm not going to using this result as my usual launching pad to declare Arsenal's season over already, because even good teams have very bad days once in a while.


Besides, I think years of me berating Wenger's approach has finally got through. Agooners are now the exception, rather than the majority.

Valon Deano Behrami wrote:

Parks lives wrote:Bullard is hilarious.

If Zamora can bully Arsenal's defence imagine what strikers like Drogba, Torres and Berbatov can do.

Zamora is class...

Zamora vs Arsenal last 5 games...

West Ham 0-0 Arsenal.
Arsenal 2-3 West Ham-Zamora mugs off Campbell and scores.
West Ham 1-0 Arsenal.
Arsenal 0-1 West Ham-Zamora lobs Lehmann from 30 yards.
Fulham 1-0 Arsenal.

He didn't play in our 2 defeats to them last season...he's the Arsenal slayer! Saints should love him!

I'm going to get his face tatooed on my arse tomorrow.

Parks lives wrote:Since we are basing it on one game, I'm hoping we finish around 12th.

Parks lives wrote:
Is it as funny as the Arsenal fans who thought they could win the league.

Hmm so Spanky can judge after 2 games but not one it seems. Pretty much all you need to know..

I just watched the Newcastle game, and we were perhaps a tad fortunate to win the game today. There was nothing fortunate about Given's penalty save - his reflexes were excellent - but Taylor actually handled the ball twice in the move that brought about Bolton's penalty, and if the referee hadn't given the first hand ball, I think there's a chance Taylor could have been sent off for the second; and Bolton sat and packed the midfield, and we didn't create so many clear cut chances. Still, we deserved the win I think, even if we needed a bit of luck in getting it, and there were a number of positives in the performance.

Given looks fit and back on form. Coloccini was really impressive in the centre of defence - he's slotted in perfectly, and hopefully the defence as a unit will only improve from here. I think Milner has started the season reasonably well - he looks lively at least, and he's getting himself on the ball a lot. Gutierrez had another good game, and he looks like a clever player to me - he isn't all running and determination - he can slow things down and pass the ball well too. Guthrie had a decent game again. Martins threatened, but just didn't quite manage to get on the end of a few heading opportunities, and hopefully his injury isn't too bad.

N'Zogbia had a pretty good game at left back today - today was the type of game where playing him at left back works, because Bolton were sitting a bit, and didn't play down the flanks much, so he got forward and added a dimension to our play, overlapping and putting in a number of our most dangerous crosses. And Beye looked a bit fitter and livelier than he did last week. Owen got on the end of Geremi's cross really well for the goal.

We passed the ball really well in spells today, maintained possession cleverly, and that was pleasing. I thought we lacked a little inventiveness; that we could have probed more and perhaps spread the play a little more sharply. And it is difficult to know at this stage how essential a playmaker might be in the long run - or whether with a more settled midfield, and with two strikers, we will create plenty, and so should focus on a defensive midfielder instead (Butt wasn't great again today - he passed the ball poorly, and his decision making wasn't great either - he overplayed in one or two dangerous situations, and booted the ball away when he had chances to play it out).

Anyway, the three points makes it a good start to the season for us. We are looking very united, and the new players couldn't have fitted into the team any better.

Bashmackin,

Sort Coloccini's partner. Stephen taylor (right?) isn't good enough. If you sort that position, and also get another CDM, Newcastle should be doing good.

Perhaps, splash some cash and get Arshavin? Keegan has surprised already this season with some bloody good signings. One more would do nice.

Also Obafemi Martins (>>> Adebayor). He looks menacing, and a constant threat. You got a mini-beast out there.

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Impressions from the game.

Arsenal are midgets. Van Persie is confused (is he a midfielder as he didn't help Adebayor). To those who said we can't outpass Arsenal in your face. Paintsil is awesome. Arsenal are midgets.

Best moment was some lovely play on the left that led to Zamora laying off though Davies screwed it wide.
Funniest moment was Kallio stooping down to head the ball away from Walcott.

Dr Sam Beckett wrote:

Besides, I think years of me berating Wenger's approach has finally got through. Agooners are now the exception, rather than the majority.

not really, I think most people have just got bored of arguing with you. Although there is some truth in what you say, there is also an equal amount of bollocks and your inability to acknowledge this makes a debate pointless.

Glenn Hysén wrote:

Dr Sam Beckett wrote:

Besides, I think years of me berating Wenger's approach has finally got through. Agooners are now the exception, rather than the majority.

not really, I think most people have just got bored of arguing with you. Although there is some truth in what you say, there is also an equal amount of bollocks and your inability to acknowledge this makes a debate pointless.

Did this post make you happy?

Dr Sam Beckett wrote:

Glenn Hysén wrote:

Dr Sam Beckett wrote:

Besides, I think years of me berating Wenger's approach has finally got through. Agooners are now the exception, rather than the majority.

not really, I think most people have just got bored of arguing with you. Although there is some truth in what you say, there is also an equal amount of bollocks and your inability to acknowledge this makes a debate pointless.

Did this post make you happy?

this one did

[quote="COTR"]Eboue in centre mid today should be a treat[/quote

Sure was

Oh... unlucky Lewis

What a goal from fuller

Gary Barry trying his best to get O'Neill to sell him

hammer_jake wrote:

S4P wrote:Why do the Arsenal fans still sing songs about Ashley Cole?

Same reason we sing songs about Fat Frank, probably cause he's a c*nt?

Picked up barely any fantasy points as of yet, most me players are playing tomorra (only 4 today). Well in Stevie G!

Tottenham, what a bunch of mugs. Jermaine Jenas, who captained them last week sums up the club. A load of hype, talk and unfulfilled potential, but in reality not very good. Fourth best London club again I reckon, possibly 5th with Fulham strengthening. Berbatov on his way, and their best striker is Bent.

I bet they're crying in their lasagnes now the wankers.

We don't sing songs about Gallas, despite the fact that he left us on equal bad terms as Cole and Lampard left Arsenal and West Ham.

hammer_jake wrote:

S4P wrote:Why do the Arsenal fans still sing songs about Ashley Cole?

Same reason we sing songs about Fat Frank, probably cause he's a c*nt?

Picked up barely any fantasy points as of yet, most me players are playing tomorra (only 4 today). Well in Stevie G!

Tottenham, what a bunch of mugs. Jermaine Jenas, who captained them last week sums up the club. A load of hype, talk and unfulfilled potential, but in reality not very good. Fourth best London club again I reckon, possibly 5th with Fulham strengthening. Berbatov on his way, and their best striker is Bent.

I bet they're crying in their lasagnes now the wankers.

Well, deep down I know you love Tottenham very much, I don't give a flying f@ck what West Ham are doing in the League, but you strain yourself in commenting about us and again reveling in our demise, fair enough big man, I don't do that kind of Cr@p, but whatever makes you happy....Look out for our result next week, I sure won't give a f@ck about you lot...O yeah I hope you die of aids and choke on your dads infectious aid-ridden cum...

It's simply a disgraceful state of affairs that we are left with one striker. Having sold 40+ goals per season in Defoe and Keane and knowing for months that Berbatov wanted out.

The season was over way back in March, so it's effectively been pre-season preparation since then. Yet we're still experimenting with systems on a half complete squad. I mean how fucking badly can you mismanage a club?

Comolli

Khadrim wrote:
Funniest moment was Kallio stooping down to head the ball away from Walcott.

Off topic, but when did Fulham sign Kallio?

*why

Hip Hip Heurelho wrote:It's simply a disgraceful state of affairs that we are left with one striker. Having sold 40+ goals per season in Defoe and Keane and knowing for months that Berbatov wanted out.

Keane doesn't score 35 goals per season.

Glenn Hysén wrote:*why

He'll go back to some shitty league next summer definitive, after spending most of the year on the bench. Ojea

Zack wrote:

hammer_jake wrote:

S4P wrote:Why do the Arsenal fans still sing songs about Ashley Cole?

Same reason we sing songs about Fat Frank, probably cause he's a c*nt?

Picked up barely any fantasy points as of yet, most me players are playing tomorra (only 4 today). Well in Stevie G!

Tottenham, what a bunch of mugs. Jermaine Jenas, who captained them last week sums up the club. A load of hype, talk and unfulfilled potential, but in reality not very good. Fourth best London club again I reckon, possibly 5th with Fulham strengthening. Berbatov on his way, and their best striker is Bent.

I bet they're crying in their lasagnes now the wankers.

Well, deep down I know you love Tottenham very much, I don't give a flying f@ck what West Ham are doing in the League, but you strain yourself in commenting about us and again reveling in our demise, fair enough big man, I don't do that kind of Cr@p, but whatever makes you happy....Look out for our result next week, I sure won't give a f@ck about you lot...O yeah I hope you die of aids and choke on your dads infectious aid-ridden cum...

Wow big man, wishing that kind of thing on someone on an Internet message board. Your mum would be so proud. I should really report you to your superiors but I'll let you off this time. Jealousy gets you nowhere mate, just cause we're the better team. Anyway back on topic, Tottenham are $h!t.

S4P, Lampard left on worse terms than Gallas or Cole mate. It aint just about how he left, but also how he's conducted himself after aswell the fat c*nt.

Queen of t'EB Riviera wrote:

Glenn Hysén wrote:*why

He'll go back to some shitty league next summer definitive, after spending most of the year on the bench. Ojea

I wouldn't call Norway a shitty league to be honest.

Glenn, stop hacking my account.

zizoued wrote:Bashmackin,

Sort Coloccini's partner. Stephen taylor (right?) isn't good enough. If you sort that position, and also get another CDM, Newcastle should be doing good.

Taylor is a good prospect, and IS getting better, especially under Keegan. He was excellent against Man U last week and had a good game against Bolton apart from the penalty.

zizoued wrote:Perhaps, splash some cash and get Arshavin? Keegan has surprised already this season with some bloody good signings. One more would do nice.

Also Obafemi Martins (>>> Adebayor). He looks menacing, and a constant threat. You got a mini-beast out there.

Arshavin is a c**t. He made a statement after the euro's about non-CL clubs not being good enough for him, now he's begging for a move to Spurs. I'd rather go for Arda Turan.

Zizoued:

I think Taylor is good enough to partner Coloccini in the centre of our defence. He's not a world beater quite yet - he could be better positionally, and he still sometimes inclines towards sitting deep and making last ditch tackles or blocks instead of focusing on his positioning - but I think he is constantly improving; he's got the right attributes in that he's very strong, he's good in the air and quite quick; and he is a pretty good footballer too - his passing isn't bad, and he can actually control and even dribble the ball well for a centre back. Even if he's made his share of mistakes in the past, still, he's usually been playing alongside very poor players - and however old and experienced they've been, he's usually taken (has really had to take, but he's taken it willingly) the responsibility for attempting to organise our defence. I think he's already a good player, and the hope is that he'll grow and learn alongside Coloccini.

We could do with an experienced centre half to provide back up for Taylor and Coloccini - we have Edgar and Bassong and both seem decent young players, but they are young and unexperienced and may be used as full backs at times too; whilst I don't rate Cacapa.

I agree regarding Martins, and regarding our need for a defensive midfielder. I have a faint but live hope that we will get Arshavin before the end of the transfer window - I do think we are looking for a creative midfielder, we've obviously been interested in him in the past, and I still think he will leave Zenit. There are various rumours doing the rounds obviously - and one rumour in Newcastle seems to be that we are going to bring in a surprising, big name signing before the transfer window shuts - Arshavin would fit that bill. Incidentally, another rumour is that we are after Senderos from Arsenal for the centre of our defence, and plan to use Coloccini as a defensive midfielder this season - but I don't see that one being true at least.