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Real Madrid Vs. Liverpool Discussion Thread
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Re: Real Madrid Vs. Liverpool Discussion Thread
by The Vermonster Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:07 am
I think it will be 0-0
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Re: Real Madrid Vs. Liverpool Discussion Thread
by Super Progress Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:18 am
Well it came for Rauls right leg so that is understandable. If it had come to Ruuds left it would likely have been the same result.DS wrote:If they had Ruud, Real would have won, one chance like say Raul got in the first leg, bang RM 1-0 up.
Anyway I hope Marcelo gets to start because Sneijder has been useless this season. Guti pretty much ruled himself out imo with that performance he made against Atletico. To be honest I wouldn't mind if Robben didn't start even if he can be a big threat because our play seemed to work better when he didn't play with Higuain on the right. Of course we don't have Huntelaar to make up for moving Higuain to the right. Preferably I would like to see something like this:
Ramos---Pepe----Cannavaro---Torres
---------------Lassana-----------------
Robben----------VDV----------Marcelo
-----Higuain------Raul------------
It was the same tactic we played against Atletico pretty much and it showed up huge holes in midfield and made it hard for the defence but that was mostly because Atletico has a great striker force in Aguero+Forlan. Liverpool don't really have that same dynamic so we could get away with it if we use Lassana in that spot instead of Gago. Whatever Juande plays I just want him to go attacking.
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That team would get about 30% possession at most. It's not really attacking when you can't get the ball.
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Six wrote:That team would get about 30% possession at most. It's not really attacking when you can't get the ball.
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TM wrote:Six wrote:That team would get about 30% possession at most. It's not really attacking when you can't get the ball.
Yes, that's exactly the emotion you would be feeling watching fattyVDV trying to get the ball back.
Have you watched us at all this season apart from that match at Bernabeu? Really?
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We don't have much chance, then.Torrente wrote:Midget will probably not start though, and it wouldn't make sense if he did. Marcelo deserves to play after Saturday's performance and we know Robben nor Raul will be benched.
Torrente wrote:In recent history our results in England have been quite good, so let's hope we keep this up. 2-3 against ManU in 2000 and 4-3 in 2002 (after two own goals in a game we should have won comfortably), and 0-0 against Arsenal in 2005.
HALA MADRID!!!
I wouldn't call one win 9 years ago, 1 loss 7 years ago and 1 draw most resently four 4 years ago quite good, especially in view of the fact that we have need to at least score 2 (against one of the most defensive tactician in the world).Well, you never know; we didn't think we'd lose in the first leg...
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Re: Real Madrid Vs. Liverpool Discussion Thread
by Super Progress Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:39 am
Depends on entirely how you press your opponents. Juande is excellent in this aspect allthough we haven't always seen that much of it when he has been coach in Real. Also basically if the defensive line presses up then it will be easier to get the ball back. Obviously it will leave massive holes for Torres to use but Pepe is good enough and Saint Iker tends to scare Torres so im willing to take that chance.Six wrote:That team would get about 30% possession at most. It's not really attacking when you can't get the ball.
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Six wrote:TM wrote:Six wrote:That team would get about 30% possession at most. It's not really attacking when you can't get the ball.
Yes, that's exactly the emotion you would be feeling watching fattyVDV trying to get the ball back.
Have you watched us at all this season apart from that match at Bernabeu? Really?
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TM wrote:Six wrote:TM wrote:Six wrote:That team would get about 30% possession at most. It's not really attacking when you can't get the ball.
Yes, that's exactly the emotion you would be feeling watching fattyVDV trying to get the ball back.
Have you watched us at all this season apart from that match at Bernabeu? Really?
I can see why you have such a great reputation on this board.
17000 posts of single emoticons.
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Six wrote:TM wrote:Six wrote:TM wrote:Six wrote:That team would get about 30% possession at most. It's not really attacking when you can't get the ball.
Yes, that's exactly the emotion you would be feeling watching fattyVDV trying to get the ball back.
Have you watched us at all this season apart from that match at Bernabeu? Really?
I can see why you have such a great reputation on this board.
17000 posts of single emoticons.
Occasionally he does venture into realm of one-word posts, or if he feels really daring that day, will even post a 3 or 4 word sentence
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Six wrote:TM wrote:Six wrote:TM wrote:Six wrote:That team would get about 30% possession at most. It's not really attacking when you can't get the ball.
Yes, that's exactly the emotion you would be feeling watching fattyVDV trying to get the ball back.
Have you watched us at all this season apart from that match at Bernabeu? Really?
I can see why you have such a great reputation on this board.
17000 posts of single emoticons.
Your posts are so boring and unimaginative, that I only post the appropriate reply:
Coming up with frivolous crap like Real will only have 30% possession.
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Super Madrid wrote:Depends on entirely how you press your opponents. Juande is excellent in this aspect allthough we haven't always seen that much of it when he has been coach in Real. Also basically if the defensive line presses up then it will be easier to get the ball back. Obviously it will leave massive holes for Torres to use but Pepe is good enough and Saint Iker tends to scare Torres so im willing to take that chance.Six wrote:That team would get about 30% possession at most. It's not really attacking when you can't get the ball.
They might be able to press for 60 minutes or so, but its not like we arent used to that style of play. I doubt Torres is going to start, so Kuyt will try to occupy Pepe and have Gerrard run at Cannavaro, which I wouldn't be particularly comfortable with if I were a Madrid fan. I expect Gago and Diarra to start again, since one of them will have to pick up Gerrard. Then perhaps after the first half Ramos, if its still 0-0, will go for it and change the team to something like you suggested.
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TM wrote:Six wrote:TM wrote:Six wrote:TM wrote:Six wrote:That team would get about 30% possession at most. It's not really attacking when you can't get the ball.
Yes, that's exactly the emotion you would be feeling watching fattyVDV trying to get the ball back.
Have you watched us at all this season apart from that match at Bernabeu? Really?
I can see why you have such a great reputation on this board.
17000 posts of single emoticons.
Your posts are so boring and unimaginative, that I only post the appropriate reply:
Coming up with frivolous crap like Real will only have 30% possession.
Ignore it if you don't like it. Otherwise don't waste my time.
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You seem to be doing a pretty good job of that all by yourself.
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Replying to you is indeed a waste of time. That wasn't why I initially posted was it?
If the board was full of posters like you it would have died years ago. 17000 posts and you contribute absolutely nothing.
If the board was full of posters like you it would have died years ago. 17000 posts and you contribute absolutely nothing.
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Re: Real Madrid Vs. Liverpool Discussion Thread
by Glenarch of the Glen Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:10 pm
TM finds another fan
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Don't worry, you'll always be my #1 fan Glenn
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Re: Real Madrid Vs. Liverpool Discussion Thread
by Super Progress Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:01 pm
If Torres isn't going to start then that is even better because he won't be a big threat in attack since he doesn't have alot of speed and has a rather poor ball control. No doubt that by attacking alot we will leave space but you take a big risk but that it what makes football fun in my eyes.Six wrote:Super Madrid wrote:Depends on entirely how you press your opponents. Juande is excellent in this aspect allthough we haven't always seen that much of it when he has been coach in Real. Also basically if the defensive line presses up then it will be easier to get the ball back. Obviously it will leave massive holes for Torres to use but Pepe is good enough and Saint Iker tends to scare Torres so im willing to take that chance.Six wrote:That team would get about 30% possession at most. It's not really attacking when you can't get the ball.
They might be able to press for 60 minutes or so, but its not like we arent used to that style of play. I doubt Torres is going to start, so Kuyt will try to occupy Pepe and have Gerrard run at Cannavaro, which I wouldn't be particularly comfortable with if I were a Madrid fan. I expect Gago and Diarra to start again, since one of them will have to pick up Gerrard. Then perhaps after the first half Ramos, if its still 0-0, will go for it and change the team to something like you suggested.
I don't want some calculated approach where we simply wait and wait untill we get a chance. No doubt though that Juande won't go all out attack because his teams always use a more deep central midfield so Gago-Lassana will start sadly. It will prob mimick what you said but for me that is a puss aproach.
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Torres doesn't have speed? 
In fact, it's the opposite. Speed is one of his key attributes, and it's especially used by Benitez in how he asks Torres to play for Liverpool.
In fact, it's the opposite. Speed is one of his key attributes, and it's especially used by Benitez in how he asks Torres to play for Liverpool.
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Marca suggesting that Juande will repeat the XI from the first leg:
-------------------------Casillas
S. Ramos-----Cannavaro-----Pepe-----Heinze
Robben-------Lass D.-------Gago------Marcelo
------------------Higuain------Raul
AS say that Sneijder is going to come into the XI for Marcelo
-------------------------Casillas
S. Ramos-----Cannavaro-----Pepe-----Heinze
-----------------Lass D.-----Gago
----------------------Sneijder
------Higuain----------Raul------------Robben
-------------------------Casillas
S. Ramos-----Cannavaro-----Pepe-----Heinze
Robben-------Lass D.-------Gago------Marcelo
------------------Higuain------Raul
AS say that Sneijder is going to come into the XI for Marcelo
-------------------------Casillas
S. Ramos-----Cannavaro-----Pepe-----Heinze
-----------------Lass D.-----Gago
----------------------Sneijder
------Higuain----------Raul------------Robben
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kas wrote:Torres doesn't have speed?
In fact, it's the opposite. Speed is one of his key attributes, and it's especially used by Benitez in how he asks Torres to play for Liverpool.
No, I think he was refering to Kuyt as the one without a lot of speed.
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I prefer the AS line up.
Marcelo played well at LM at the weekend but neither Higuain or Raul are great headers of the ball.
Marcelo played well at LM at the weekend but neither Higuain or Raul are great headers of the ball.
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Jaime wrote:kas wrote:Torres doesn't have speed?
In fact, it's the opposite. Speed is one of his key attributes, and it's especially used by Benitez in how he asks Torres to play for Liverpool.
No, I think he was refering to Kuyt as the one without a lot of speed.
Ahh ok makes sense then
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TM wrote:I prefer the AS line up.
Marcelo played well at LM at the weekend but neither Higuain or Raul are great headers of the ball.
And Marcelo's not good at crossing.
Higuain is a bit wasted out on the wing but Sneijder at least gives us another person who moves a lot and maybe for once this year he can get a hold of a decent freekick or a long distance shot.
I don't see much point in repeating the same XI from the first leg because Rafa has already demonstrated that he can nullify it completely.
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Re: Real Madrid Vs. Liverpool Discussion Thread
by Super Progress Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:12 pm
Sorry I was indeed talking about Kuyt who won't be much of a threat when on the ball as I see it. He is more useful for pressuring teams and somehow getting on the end of lose balls,crosses getting goals at important times.kas wrote:Torres doesn't have speed?
In fact, it's the opposite. Speed is one of his key attributes, and it's especially used by Benitez in how he asks Torres to play for Liverpool.
If we have to choose between those two line ups then I prefer AS even though I don't like Sneijder playing it at least forces Robben to play on the left so he won't have any excuse for cutting in and shooting all the time. Still would like more VDV or even Guti then Sneijder in that role at least.
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VDV and Guti? 
Fatty is rubbish, and Guti only plays well every 5 games. If Midget is fully fit I think he can do a good job as the playmaker.
Fatty is rubbish, and Guti only plays well every 5 games. If Midget is fully fit I think he can do a good job as the playmaker.
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Re: Real Madrid Vs. Liverpool Discussion Thread
by Super Progress Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:18 pm
Sneijder has been crap this season but the problem with him is that even when he is on form he isn't a playmaker and doesn't help the team pass well. Vdv is a real playmaker and Guti can hit great killer passes when he seems to be bothered.TM wrote:VDV and Guti?
Fatty is rubbish, and Guti only plays well every 5 games. If Midget is fully fit I think he can do a good job as the playmaker.
If Sneijder at least offered great shots as he used to then you could argue he would be a danger but even in that area he has largely disapointed and it is the same with goals from set pieces.
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TM wrote:VDV and Guti?
Fatty is rubbish, and Guti only plays well every520 games. If Midget is fully fit I think he can do a good job as the playmaker.
At least it is the case this season.
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Re: Real Madrid Vs. Liverpool Discussion Thread
by Super Progress Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:27 pm
Any truth to this?REDS RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF - RAFA
Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez believes he deserves more credit for the job he has done at Anfield.
The Reds head into the Champions League last-16 second-leg clash with Real Madrid knowing they are ranked Europe's best team by UEFA, the continent's governing body, based on performances in the tournament over the last five years.
Since the Spaniard took over in 2004 Liverpool have won their fifth European title, in 2005, while also reaching the final two years later.
However, Benitez has suffered stinging criticism from some quarters for his inability to oversee a concerted Barclays Premier League title challenge - something which again appears to have eluded him this season.
But he has hit back: "You have to judge people on the job they are doing and I am happy for anyone to look at how we have progressed in my time at Liverpool.
"The team is improving all the time and the squad is now better than ever. We are closer to the Premier League title and going well in the Champions League again.
"The UEFA findings show we have the best record in Europe over the last five years. Yet some of the messages still coming my way are not the best.
"Maybe some people don't realise how difficult it is to keep succeeding in the Champions League but the facts are there for all to see. Anyone can see what I have done here."
I mean Benitez is known as a master of European competition pretty much so can't see what he is complaining about.
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