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    Is selling Keane a mistake?

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    Has Rafa made a cock-up in the Jan transfer window?

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    Post by L r dd Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:07 pm

    How about i talk to yours instead?
    You cannot win...lay down Laughing
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:08 pm

    I'm sure he'd be delighted to hear from you. Shame the same can't be said of your own father Laugh
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    Post by Batman Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:09 pm

    Glenijel Pranjic wrote:
    L-r d wrote:
    Batman wrote:
    Glenijel Pranjic wrote:I feel like you're avoiding answering my question because the honest answer is that United would not be top.

    Am I right?

    You Want The Truth?












    You Can't Handle The Truth!













    United would not be top of the league if this didn't happen:


    Wigan 1-1 Liverpool


    Liverpool 1-1 Everton


    Stoke 0-0 Liverpool










    Man Utd are top of the league because of this man:


    Is selling Keane a mistake? - Page 3 RafaBenitez_577835

    lol! lol!


    lol!

    are these the only 3 fixrures you can find where United didn't get an unfair advantage in their corresponding fixture?


    lol! lol! lol! lol!

    SELF OWNED Laugh

    :seriouspwnage:

    and i didn't even mention the Rafa rant. cheers
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    Post by Fey Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:14 pm

    LEAVE GLENN ALONE Grr
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    Post by Dick Grayson Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:16 pm

    COTR wrote:
    Dick Grayson wrote:
    Glenijel Pranjic wrote:
    DS wrote:Even with the extra games and injuries we have suffered, also being away mid season and had to catch up.

    playing 50% of your games with 12 men is a great antidote to an injury crisis. Plus your squad cost about £70m more than ours, it should be able to cope.

    The title is United's this season, if they don't win it it will because they threw it away. But Rafa getting his contract sorted out, and winning the Keane affair will only take the club forward.

    This is now sounding tired and pathetic, it stopped being funny about a week ago! Get over it and get real...YOUR problems have nothing to do with us! Doh

    You are a top class lawyer dick

    Try to refute the facts

    They are NOT facts dick-shit! They are someone elses opinions that dumb arse Glen has hi-jacked cos he is too blasted stupid to think em up himself!

    If you want facts here are some...

    1. Gerrard continues to foul/back-chat/abuse refs and does NOT get reprimanded let alone sent off! Yesterday the conte took a blatant DIVE (no one here has mentioned it once!!!) then had the audacity to rebuje the ref! Super-conte!!!

    2. Carragher goes around 'HACKING' players and never gets booked...what say you? some nonsensic rubbish about Vidic who is a super-human-goal-scroring-nuclear-defence-sheild! Jls? burning? contes!

    3. Your team and your twatty manager lack guile, style and backbone....you are wasting the career of a stupid but quite possibly the best striker in the world....! Your inability to challenge is SERIOUSLY is doing your head and you are cluthcing at facking straws!

    4. We are BARELY 3 pints clear of you lot! Yet you ALL think we have won the league - THAT is how insecure you fack-tards are! Any time you lose or DRAW a game - all facking hell breaks lose - you lot go into one as if its the facking end of the world....heck - expect we WILL lose a few more games or draw a few - there will be more twist....but do we moan like you stupid bitches? No, cos we are SEASONES winners! Its in out blood....!

    5. We did NOT expect to be top of the league at this stage of the season - as we have barely got into 2nd gear - the fact that you SHITTY team and toss-eating manager managed to fack things up and Chelsea are so shit they make shit look good is not our facking fault!

    Get over it stupid disgraceful disgraces!!!! Very Happy
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    Post by Dick Grayson Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:18 pm

    Batman wrote:
    Glenijel Pranjic wrote:I feel like you're avoiding answering my question because the honest answer is that United would not be top.

    Am I right?

    You Want The Truth?












    You Can't Handle The Truth!













    United would not be top of the league if this didn't happen:


    Wigan 1-1 Liverpool


    Liverpool 1-1 Everton


    Stoke 0-0 Liverpool










    Man Utd are top of the league because of this man:


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    PWNAGE RAPE!!! Laughing
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    Post by COTR Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:18 pm

    lol!


    I got dick so angry he had to type more than two lines

    Mission accomplished for the day
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    Post by Dick Grayson Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:19 pm

    COTR wrote:lol!


    I got dick so angry he had to type more than two lines

    Mission accomplished for the day

    Ok, that was good! Laughing
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    Post by Khadrim Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:24 pm

    Forgot about the Ronaldo Kicks, but it explains why Bosingwa hasn't been punished. The FA are just a bunch of gutless c**ts
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    Post by Dick Grayson Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:29 pm

    Khadrim wrote:Forgot about the Ronaldo Kicks, but it explains why Bosingwa hasn't been punished. The FA are just a bunch of gutless c**ts

    FFS TRW hit out in frustration and they are no more than air-kicks....Botswinga tried to penetrate the Jew with his football boots on!!! Big difference!
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    Post by Khadrim Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:31 pm

    Dick Grayson wrote:
    Khadrim wrote:Forgot about the Ronaldo Kicks, but it explains why Bosingwa hasn't been punished. The FA are just a bunch of gutless c**ts

    FFS TRW hit out in frustration and they are no more than air-kicks....Botswinga tried to penetrate the Jew with his football boots on!!! Big difference!

    That Bosingwa is more accurate Question
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    Post by Aristoskank Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:38 pm

    Fey wrote:LEAVE GLENN ALONE Grr


    Fuck off Fey, Glenis can take care of himself.
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    Post by Batman Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:17 am

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    Post by debaser Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:20 am

    I like the 'Accused Paedophile' picture they chose Smile
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    Post by forza_rossi Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:32 am

    debaser wrote:I like the 'Accused Paedophile' picture they chose Smile
    lol!
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:52 am

    Parks lives wrote:Well one's in a Champions league game as he said, one he basically imagined, naming the Blackburn incident is laughable and the rest are some 50/50 calls.

    Who know's we may have improved in other games anyway knowing the points were that bit more vital.

    I think we're where we deserve to be. Smiley


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    Post by fcb Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:05 am

    Batman wrote:Why couldn't Rafa replace Keane with Arshavin or Quaresma?

    Keane seals £12m Tottenham return. Tottenham have re-signed striker Robbie Keane from Liverpool, six months after he left the club for £20.3m.

    How much money have Liverpool lost on the Keane transfer?

    Aren't you supposed to be a schoolteacher...do the math Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Fade out Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:13 am

    20.3m paid in single installment? I doubt. I much doubt about 8m profit. At worst (for liverpool) It would be around 2 million loss (by wages and fees adjustment).
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:50 am

    Rafa is such a cheeky monkey denying the Keane deal and then buying shares in TTNM. They're up 0.56.

    Whatever the real maths are in the Keane deal, we will all find out when Spurs announce it to their shareholders, but that wont stop tabloid journalists from quoting sources and generally making up stories. It also wont stop the broadsheets from quoting the stories made up by the tabloid as 'reported'
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    Post by rosenthal Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:02 am

    Fuck off. wrote:20.3m paid in single installment? I doubt. I much doubt about 8m profit. At worst (for liverpool) It would be around 2 million loss (by wages and fees adjustment).

    It will be an estimated £7m profit if the add ons arent activated, though I guess they will be and in the end it will be around £3m profit for Tottenham.

    Liverpool supposedly still owed Tottenham £10m from the initial deal, hence will only be paid £2m for the transfer.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:08 am

    rosenthal wrote:
    Fuck off. wrote:20.3m paid in single installment? I doubt. I much doubt about 8m profit. At worst (for liverpool) It would be around 2 million loss (by wages and fees adjustment).

    It will be an estimated £7m profit if the add ons arent activated, though I guess they will be and in the end it will be around £3m profit for Tottenham.

    Liverpool supposedly still owed Tottenham £10m from the initial deal, hence will only be paid £2m for the transfer.

    would Spurs have put an add-on that says Liverpool pay £10m if Keane plays more than 20 games? Maybe, I very much doubt it.

    We can speculate, or we can wait for the facts. Or we can believe The Sun.
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    Post by rosenthal Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:40 am

    Glenijel Pranjic wrote:
    rosenthal wrote:
    Fuck off. wrote:20.3m paid in single installment? I doubt. I much doubt about 8m profit. At worst (for liverpool) It would be around 2 million loss (by wages and fees adjustment).

    It will be an estimated £7m profit if the add ons arent activated, though I guess they will be and in the end it will be around £3m profit for Tottenham.

    Liverpool supposedly still owed Tottenham £10m from the initial deal, hence will only be paid £2m for the transfer.

    would Spurs have put an add-on that says Liverpool pay £10m if Keane plays more than 20 games? Maybe, I very much doubt it.

    We can speculate, or we can wait for the facts. Or we can believe The Sun.

    The £10m i was refering to is not add ons, but downpayment of the £19m transfer fee. Transfer sums are very rarely paid upfront, but rather downpaid over the players contract or at least a couple of years.

    The transfer fee when Keane went to Liverpool was "£19m as compensation plus a potential further £1.3m in additional compensation."
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    Post by Aristoskank Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:14 pm

    Former Liverpool and Republic of Ireland striker John Aldridge questioned whether Liverpool now had sufficient attacking depth to win the title.

    "Look at the players they have had in the last four years. Michael Owen was sold, Robbie Fowler has been and gone, Peter Crouch and now Robbie Keane," he said.

    "To sustain a challenge on Manchester United you have got to have one if not more of those players on top of what we have got at the moment.

    "Dirk Kuyt can play up front, Ryan Babel at a push and then there's the lad (David) Ngog, who is nowhere near the quality needed, he's a young lad. There are certainly not enough options."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7867439.stm

    He would mention Owen but forget Morientes, Cisse, Baros and Bellamy.

    Really is a difficult position for Benitez, given that the only success story so far has been Torres, who cost a fortune.
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    Post by debaser Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:20 pm

    President Darkie wrote:
    Former Liverpool and Republic of Ireland striker John Aldridge questioned whether Liverpool now had sufficient attacking depth to win the title.

    "Look at the players they have had in the last four years. Michael Owen was sold, Robbie Fowler has been and gone, Peter Crouch and now Robbie Keane," he said.

    "To sustain a challenge on Manchester United you have got to have one if not more of those players on top of what we have got at the moment.

    "Dirk Kuyt can play up front, Ryan Babel at a push and then there's the lad (David) Ngog, who is nowhere near the quality needed, he's a young lad. There are certainly not enough options."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7867439.stm

    He would mention Owen but forget Morientes, Cisse, Baros and Bellamy.

    Really is a difficult position for Benitez, given that the only success story so far has been Torres, who cost a fortune.
    Until Keane he could probably use this to make the point that you need to spend 20m+ to get a top striker. Now even that line will be a bit questionable.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:30 pm

    debaser wrote:
    President Darkie wrote:
    Former Liverpool and Republic of Ireland striker John Aldridge questioned whether Liverpool now had sufficient attacking depth to win the title.

    "Look at the players they have had in the last four years. Michael Owen was sold, Robbie Fowler has been and gone, Peter Crouch and now Robbie Keane," he said.

    "To sustain a challenge on Manchester United you have got to have one if not more of those players on top of what we have got at the moment.

    "Dirk Kuyt can play up front, Ryan Babel at a push and then there's the lad (David) Ngog, who is nowhere near the quality needed, he's a young lad. There are certainly not enough options."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7867439.stm

    He would mention Owen but forget Morientes, Cisse, Baros and Bellamy.

    Really is a difficult position for Benitez, given that the only success story so far has been Torres, who cost a fortune.
    Until Keane he could probably use this to make the point that you need to spend 20m+ to get a top striker. Now even that line will be a bit questionable.

    I'm sure I read somewhere that Keane wasn't his signing.

    He missed out on Alves because the board refused to spend an extra £2m, if he was in control of the budget he would have cut costs elsewhere and signed the player for £15m, similar thing happened with Simao and a couple of other players I can't recall off the top of my head, but often he's ended up with his 4th or 5th choice. Pennant and Riera being the most obvious ones.

    People like to make out that he's failed with his attacking transfers, but although few have exceeded expectations I can't think of many failures, Keane aside none of them have been expensive flops, and I'm sure I read somewhere that Keane wasn't his signing.
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    Post by L r dd Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:31 pm

    I read somewhere that Keane was his signing
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    Post by christmasborocooper Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:32 pm

    Defense *clap clap clap*
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:35 pm

    Gotta day, I'm reading some absolute BULLSHIT about Keane on here.

    *His best season for us was BEFORE Berbatov joined in 2005-06, where he split time playing alongside Mido & defoe, Berbatov didn't "make" Keane.

    *He could've found a place in the Liverpool team had Benitez dropped his Kuyt obsession.

    Also how can people say he's been definitely not top 4 quality when there's expensive shite like Kuyt, Babel, Ballack, Malouda et. al still to be found at top 4 clubs getting regular match time.

    Fact is, he was a victim of Benitez's negativity and the politics at Liverpool. He'd be a valuable member of any top 4 squad otherwise.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:36 pm

    The HuddFather™️ wrote:Gotta day, I'm reading some absolute BULLSHIT about Keane on here.

    *His best season for us was BEFORE Berbatov joined in 2005-06, where he split time playing alongside Mido & defoe, Berbatov didn't "make" Keane.

    *He could've found a place in the Liverpool team had Benitez dropped his Kuyt obsession.

    Also how can people say he's been definitely not top 4 quality when there's expensive shite like Kuyt, Babel, Ballack, Malouda et. al still to be found at top 4 clubs getting regular match time.

    Fact is, he was a victim of Benitez's negativity and the politics at Liverpool. He'd be a valuable member of any top 4 squad otherwise.

    I don't remember Rafa's negativity and the politics at Liverpool missing 5 or 6 sitters per game.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:41 pm

    Glenijel Pranjic wrote:
    The HuddFather™️ wrote:Gotta day, I'm reading some absolute BULLSHIT about Keane on here.

    *His best season for us was BEFORE Berbatov joined in 2005-06, where he split time playing alongside Mido & defoe, Berbatov didn't "make" Keane.

    *He could've found a place in the Liverpool team had Benitez dropped his Kuyt obsession.

    Also how can people say he's been definitely not top 4 quality when there's expensive shite like Kuyt, Babel, Ballack, Malouda et. al still to be found at top 4 clubs getting regular match time.

    Fact is, he was a victim of Benitez's negativity and the politics at Liverpool. He'd be a valuable member of any top 4 squad otherwise.

    I don't remember Rafa's negativity and the politics at Liverpool missing 5 or 6 sitters per game.

    I do:

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