Is selling Keane a mistake?

Stop it TS!

I know black coffee can be bitter, but there is no reason for you to be bitter of Kuyt...just because Keane failed at liverpool!

Doesnt suit you!

TS, although your reply might get a big wavy lol stick and a serious pwnage from Nutters, it doesn't change the fact that Keane had his opportunity and regularly missed several important chances. Kuyt has a much better conversion rate than him.

He was an ever present in the team for the first half of the season, showed none of the magic we were promised and wasted more chances than it is possible to justify.

Mido is still a Targetman and was very good in that loan spell, none of your current strikers are.

are you drunk again?

Glenijel Pranjic wrote:TS, although your reply might get a big wavy lol stick and a serious pwnage from Nutters, it doesn't change the fact that Keane had his opportunity and regularly missed several important chances. Kuyt has a much better conversion rate than him.

He was an ever present in the team for the first half of the season, showed none of the magic we were promised and wasted more chances than it is possible to justify.

Ever present?

He considered himself lucky if he saw an hour on the pitch before being replaced by a one-trick pony like Babel.

BENITEZ WILL NEVER WIN THE PREMIER LEAGUE FOR LIVERPOOL, ESPECIALLY WITH BABEL & KUYT AS ATTACKING OPTIONS!

Glenn

The HuddFather wrote:

Glenijel Pranjic wrote:TS, although your reply might get a big wavy lol stick and a serious pwnage from Nutters, it doesn't change the fact that Keane had his opportunity and regularly missed several important chances. Kuyt has a much better conversion rate than him.

He was an ever present in the team for the first half of the season, showed none of the magic we were promised and wasted more chances than it is possible to justify.

Ever present?

He considered himself lucky if he saw an hour on the pitch before being replaced by a one-trick pony like Babel.

BENITEZ WILL NEVER WIN THE PREMIER LEAGUE FOR LIVERPOOL, ESPECIALLY WITH BABEL & KUYT AS ATTACKING OPTIONS!

I think you are overrating Keane to be honest.

DS wrote:Mido is still a Targetman and was very good in that loan spell, none of your current strikers are.

Yes he was, but he missed the last 6 weeks of the season, Keane carried us in that time.

The HuddFather wrote:

Glenijel Pranjic wrote:TS, although your reply might get a big wavy lol stick and a serious pwnage from Nutters, it doesn't change the fact that Keane had his opportunity and regularly missed several important chances. Kuyt has a much better conversion rate than him.

He was an ever present in the team for the first half of the season, showed none of the magic we were promised and wasted more chances than it is possible to justify.

Ever present?

He considered himself lucky if he saw an hour on the pitch before being replaced by a one-trick pony like Babel.

BENITEZ WILL NEVER WIN THE PREMIER LEAGUE FOR LIVERPOOL, ESPECIALLY WITH BABEL & KUYT AS ATTACKING OPTIONS!

oh look more cheap shots for the lol brigade

anyone who wastes as many chances as Keane is lucky to be on the pitch in the first place.

DS wrote:

The HuddFather wrote:

Glenijel Pranjic wrote:TS, although your reply might get a big wavy lol stick and a serious pwnage from Nutters, it doesn't change the fact that Keane had his opportunity and regularly missed several important chances. Kuyt has a much better conversion rate than him.

He was an ever present in the team for the first half of the season, showed none of the magic we were promised and wasted more chances than it is possible to justify.

Ever present?

He considered himself lucky if he saw an hour on the pitch before being replaced by a one-trick pony like Babel.

BENITEZ WILL NEVER WIN THE PREMIER LEAGUE FOR LIVERPOOL, ESPECIALLY WITH BABEL & KUYT AS ATTACKING OPTIONS!

I think you are overrating Keane to be honest.

He wasn't given a fair chance, is all. Meanwhile Kuyt is somehow in his 3rd season, and still a 1st choice player, despite having one month of genuine good form in that time?

If Glenda runs to the "big goals" argument, he would be wise to remember what he said about Luis Garcia earlier this week.

The HuddFather wrote:

DS wrote:

The HuddFather wrote:

Glenijel Pranjic wrote:TS, although your reply might get a big wavy lol stick and a serious pwnage from Nutters, it doesn't change the fact that Keane had his opportunity and regularly missed several important chances. Kuyt has a much better conversion rate than him.

He was an ever present in the team for the first half of the season, showed none of the magic we were promised and wasted more chances than it is possible to justify.

Ever present?

He considered himself lucky if he saw an hour on the pitch before being replaced by a one-trick pony like Babel.

BENITEZ WILL NEVER WIN THE PREMIER LEAGUE FOR LIVERPOOL, ESPECIALLY WITH BABEL & KUYT AS ATTACKING OPTIONS!

I think you are overrating Keane to be honest.

He wasn't given a fair chance, is all. Meanwhile Kuyt is somehow in his 3rd season, and still a 1st choice player, despite having one month of genuine good form in that time?

If Glenda runs to the "big goals" argument, he would be wise to remember what he said about Luis Garcia earlier this week.

Luis Garcia didn't get nearly as many minutes as Keane in his first 6 months.

What would have constituted giving him a fair chance in your eyes? If you have a striker than is continually missing open goals do you say "don't worry about it we don't really need to win these games" or do you take him off and get Gerrard closer to the goal?

When you're a midtable club like Spurs you can afford a player like Keane for 90 minutes because you're not going to go down and you're not going to win anything, every game for you lot is essentially a pre season friendly.

Glenijel Pranjic wrote:

The HuddFather wrote:

DS wrote:

The HuddFather wrote:

Glenijel Pranjic wrote:TS, although your reply might get a big wavy lol stick and a serious pwnage from Nutters, it doesn't change the fact that Keane had his opportunity and regularly missed several important chances. Kuyt has a much better conversion rate than him.

He was an ever present in the team for the first half of the season, showed none of the magic we were promised and wasted more chances than it is possible to justify.

Ever present?

He considered himself lucky if he saw an hour on the pitch before being replaced by a one-trick pony like Babel.

BENITEZ WILL NEVER WIN THE PREMIER LEAGUE FOR LIVERPOOL, ESPECIALLY WITH BABEL & KUYT AS ATTACKING OPTIONS!

I think you are overrating Keane to be honest.

He wasn't given a fair chance, is all. Meanwhile Kuyt is somehow in his 3rd season, and still a 1st choice player, despite having one month of genuine good form in that time?

If Glenda runs to the "big goals" argument, he would be wise to remember what he said about Luis Garcia earlier this week.

Luis Garcia didn't get nearly as many minutes as Keane in his first 6 months.

What would have constituted giving him a fair chance in your eyes? If you have a striker than is continually missing open goals do you say "don't worry about it we don't really need to win these games" or do you take him off and get Gerrard closer to the goal?

When you're a midtable club like Spurs you can afford a player like Keane for 90 minutes because you're not going to go down and you're not going to win anything, every game for you lot is essentially a pre season friendly.

Glenijel Pranjic wrote:

The HuddFather wrote:

DS wrote:

The HuddFather wrote:

Glenijel Pranjic wrote:TS, although your reply might get a big wavy lol stick and a serious pwnage from Nutters, it doesn't change the fact that Keane had his opportunity and regularly missed several important chances. Kuyt has a much better conversion rate than him.

He was an ever present in the team for the first half of the season, showed none of the magic we were promised and wasted more chances than it is possible to justify.

Ever present?

He considered himself lucky if he saw an hour on the pitch before being replaced by a one-trick pony like Babel.

BENITEZ WILL NEVER WIN THE PREMIER LEAGUE FOR LIVERPOOL, ESPECIALLY WITH BABEL & KUYT AS ATTACKING OPTIONS!

I think you are overrating Keane to be honest.

He wasn't given a fair chance, is all. Meanwhile Kuyt is somehow in his 3rd season, and still a 1st choice player, despite having one month of genuine good form in that time?

If Glenda runs to the "big goals" argument, he would be wise to remember what he said about Luis Garcia earlier this week.

Luis Garcia didn't get nearly as many minutes as Keane in his first 6 months.

What would have constituted giving him a fair chance in your eyes? If you have a striker than is continually missing open goals do you say "don't worry about it we don't really need to win these games" or do you take him off and get Gerrard closer to the goal?

When you're a midtable club like Spurs you can afford a player like Keane for 90 minutes because you're not going to go down and you're not going to win anything, every game for you lot is essentially a pre season friendly.

Yet you can afford a player like Kuyt, right?

No smug arrogance here

It makes me laugh about these "open goals" - I certainly didn't see them whenever I saw you guys on MOTD. You can accuse him of being anonymous and not being involved, what home game did I see you guys in last week where Torres & Gerrard REFUSED to pass to him, and wanted to do everything by themselves?

Garcia was a regular starter in his 1st season, though like Keane he was treated rather harshly. Here's to ManUre's, 18th, 19th and 20th league titles.

I think you're being a bit of a dick. If you didn't see something does it mean it didn't happen? Keane played plenty of full games, missed plenty of chances. Oh but maybe Rafa took him off too soon, he likes to score his goals after the 61st minute? The chances he wastes in the first hour don't really count? Well he came off the bench a few times too, after the 60th minute, didn't do a whole lot better then either.

If he's so great then you should be delighted that you got him back, not moaning about how Rafa didn't build a team around him.

To Robbie Keane, hopefully the first player ever to win a Championship medal and get relegated in the same season

The HuddFather wrote:Gotta day, I'm reading some absolute BULLSHIT about Keane on here.

*His best season for us was BEFORE Berbatov joined in 2005-06, where he split time playing alongside Mido & defoe, Berbatov didn't "make" Keane.

*He could've found a place in the Liverpool team had Benitez dropped his Kuyt obsession.

Also how can people say he's been definitely not top 4 quality when there's expensive shite like Kuyt, Babel, Ballack, Malouda et. al still to be found at top 4 clubs getting regular match time.

Fact is, he was a victim of Benitez's negativity and the politics at Liverpool. He'd be a valuable member of any top 4 squad otherwise.

Kuyt is a BIG GAME player.

Babel is an athlete who can strike a ball hard and has done well in big games.

Ballack is big and strong.

Malouda is a good athlete.


Robbie Keane, like the very talented Benayoun, is not an attacking player for a big 4 team.

He is small and weak, not amazingly fast and doesn't get enough strikes on target.

Some moron batlover here said why didn't we get Quaresma instead of Keane.

Well, for the simple matter of fact Quaresma didn't want to move to us because after having talks with Rafa the abnoxious, tactically inept, mentally weak bastard didn't want to change his natural game to suit a team's needs. I posted the article here back in the summer after we reportedly made an enquiry about his availabilty and him having talks with Rafa, if your bothered look for it.

Admittedly I made was in the camp that wanted us to sign Quaresma but the article totally changed my view on him.
Mourinho and Rafa are similar in coaching styles and it's no suprise seeing being a flop at Inter. At Porto he had the license to do whatever he wanted more or less...

@ Dick who the fuck is Botswinga or whatever you called him, sounds like some Transformer or something.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

The HuddFather wrote:Gotta day, I'm reading some absolute BULLSHIT about Keane on here.

*His best season for us was BEFORE Berbatov joined in 2005-06, where he split time playing alongside Mido & defoe, Berbatov didn't "make" Keane.

*He could've found a place in the Liverpool team had Benitez dropped his Kuyt obsession.

Also how can people say he's been definitely not top 4 quality when there's expensive shite like Kuyt, Babel, Ballack, Malouda et. al still to be found at top 4 clubs getting regular match time.

Fact is, he was a victim of Benitez's negativity and the politics at Liverpool. He'd be a valuable member of any top 4 squad otherwise.

Kuyt is a BIG GAME player.

Babel is an athlete who can strike a ball hard and has done well in big games.

Ballack is big and strong.

Malouda is a good athlete.


Robbie Keane, like the very talented Benayoun, is not an attacking player for a big 4 team.

He is small and weak, not amazingly fast and doesn't get enough strikes on target.

He was able to walk too.

Quaresma seems to have all the skills without knowing when to use them.

He was dismal at Anfield in the CL last season.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:Quaresma seems to have all the skills without knowing when to use them.

He was dismal at Anfield in the CL last season.

No doubt he has the all the talent in the world, just no brain or heart as they say.

He was shit both home and away. So was my man Joaquin but that was for over-achieving Betis Still want to sign him though

Wouldn't a better example be how Crouch succeeded after a poor start.

The HuddFather wrote:

Yet you can afford a player like Kuyt, right?

No smug arrogance here

It makes me laugh about these "open goals" - I certainly didn't see them whenever I saw you guys on MOTD. You can accuse him of being anonymous and not being involved, what home game did I see you guys in last week where Torres & Gerrard REFUSED to pass to him, and wanted to do everything by themselves?

Garcia was a regular starter in his 1st season, though like Keane he was treated rather harshly. Here's to ManUre's, 18th, 19th and 20th league titles.

I have rarely seen you so flustered and hence talking so much nonsense T/S

Firstly Kuyt is playing as a winger, something he is far more suited to than Robbie Keane would ever be so this is why he gets games ahead of Keane there. If Keane was played as a winger you would have accused Rafa of wasting him

Secondly he missed countless tap ins, many of which were open nets. I don't think I am exaggerating when I say he messed up at least ten very simple chances in his short time with us

Thirdly it is his job to get involved. Torres instantly did when he joined us and Keane had every chance until it became increasingly clear that he just didn't have the quality to be a starter for us

And finally Garcia was a talented but erratic player. We look back on him fondly because of his moments of magic but there were also long periods when he was more of a liability on our team. Keane was not treated harshly, he just was not good enough.

Rafa was never going to play a 442 especially when Torres & Gerrard were both available for selection, something you said last time COTR about Keane having to accept being a squad player, if so he may have stayed longer at the club.

Khadrim wrote:Wouldn't a better example be how Crouch succeeded after a poor start.

Crouch presents a dilema to defenders physically and is technically superior.

Plus he seems like a decent chap so would probably fit into the group better than the finger-wagging, open goal fluffing Leprechaun.

Anyone with an ounce of sense knows that Liverpool's best XI must feature Gerrard, Alonso and Mascherano and therefore its very difficult to fit Keane in anywhere.

Vierzehn wrote:Rafa was never going to play a 442 especially when Torres & Gerrard were both available for selection, something you said last time COTR about Keane having to accept being a squad player, if so he may have stayed longer at the club.

He has played keane in a 4-4-2 in the majority of home games this season Rai. Keane has partnered torres or kuyt and been useless, he has played up front by himself in a 4-2-3-1 and been useless. There are no excuses for his form. He simply couldn't cut it for a top team.

I said Keane would have to accept being a squad player because he isn't good enough to start for us

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

The HuddFather wrote:Gotta day, I'm reading some absolute BULLSHIT about Keane on here.

*His best season for us was BEFORE Berbatov joined in 2005-06, where he split time playing alongside Mido & defoe, Berbatov didn't "make" Keane.

*He could've found a place in the Liverpool team had Benitez dropped his Kuyt obsession.

Also how can people say he's been definitely not top 4 quality when there's expensive shite like Kuyt, Babel, Ballack, Malouda et. al still to be found at top 4 clubs getting regular match time.

Fact is, he was a victim of Benitez's negativity and the politics at Liverpool. He'd be a valuable member of any top 4 squad otherwise.

Kuyt is a BIG GAME player.

Babel is an athlete who can strike a ball hard and has done well in big games.

Ballack is big and strong.

Malouda is a good athlete.


Robbie Keane, like the very talented Benayoun, is not an attacking player for a big 4 team.

He is small and weak, not amazingly fast and doesn't get enough strikes on target.

Malouda is shit.

COTR wrote:

Vierzehn wrote:Rafa was never going to play a 442 especially when Torres & Gerrard were both available for selection, something you said last time COTR about Keane having to accept being a squad player, if so he may have stayed longer at the club.

He has played keane in a 4-4-2 in the majority of home games this season Rai. Keane has partnered torres or kuyt and been useless, he has played up front by himself in a 4-2-3-1 and been useless. There are no excuses for his form. He simply couldn't cut it for a top team.

I said Keane would have to accept being a squad player because he isn't good enough to start for us

Just interested COTR, where do you think we'll finish this season if Torres gets an injury and is out for say 2 months?

Fernando Torres wrote:

COTR wrote:

Vierzehn wrote:Rafa was never going to play a 442 especially when Torres & Gerrard were both available for selection, something you said last time COTR about Keane having to accept being a squad player, if so he may have stayed longer at the club.

He has played keane in a 4-4-2 in the majority of home games this season Rai. Keane has partnered torres or kuyt and been useless, he has played up front by himself in a 4-2-3-1 and been useless. There are no excuses for his form. He simply couldn't cut it for a top team.

I said Keane would have to accept being a squad player because he isn't good enough to start for us

Just interested COTR, where do you think we'll finish this season if Torres gets an injury and is out for say 2 months?

You were doing better before Torres came back

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Fernando Torres wrote:

COTR wrote:

Vierzehn wrote:Rafa was never going to play a 442 especially when Torres & Gerrard were both available for selection, something you said last time COTR about Keane having to accept being a squad player, if so he may have stayed longer at the club.

He has played keane in a 4-4-2 in the majority of home games this season Rai. Keane has partnered torres or kuyt and been useless, he has played up front by himself in a 4-2-3-1 and been useless. There are no excuses for his form. He simply couldn't cut it for a top team.

I said Keane would have to accept being a squad player because he isn't good enough to start for us

Just interested COTR, where do you think we'll finish this season if Torres gets an injury and is out for say 2 months?

You were doing better before Torres came back

we won a few games thanks to Keane if I remeber, West Brom and Bolton..

Fernando Torres wrote:

COTR wrote:

Vierzehn wrote:Rafa was never going to play a 442 especially when Torres & Gerrard were both available for selection, something you said last time COTR about Keane having to accept being a squad player, if so he may have stayed longer at the club.

He has played keane in a 4-4-2 in the majority of home games this season Rai. Keane has partnered torres or kuyt and been useless, he has played up front by himself in a 4-2-3-1 and been useless. There are no excuses for his form. He simply couldn't cut it for a top team.

I said Keane would have to accept being a squad player because he isn't good enough to start for us

Just interested COTR, where do you think we'll finish this season if Torres gets an injury and is out for say 2 months?

I can tell you for certain that Robbie Keane would have made little difference to our side if this did happen Luis

The difference between playing Keane or kuyt in torres' place is negigible. Neither would have any impact on the team

Fernando Torres wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Fernando Torres wrote:

COTR wrote:

Vierzehn wrote:Rafa was never going to play a 442 especially when Torres & Gerrard were both available for selection, something you said last time COTR about Keane having to accept being a squad player, if so he may have stayed longer at the club.

He has played keane in a 4-4-2 in the majority of home games this season Rai. Keane has partnered torres or kuyt and been useless, he has played up front by himself in a 4-2-3-1 and been useless. There are no excuses for his form. He simply couldn't cut it for a top team.

I said Keane would have to accept being a squad player because he isn't good enough to start for us

Just interested COTR, where do you think we'll finish this season if Torres gets an injury and is out for say 2 months?

You were doing better before Torres came back

we won a few games thanks to Keane if I remeber, West Brom and Bolton..

Not that hard to be honest