UEFA Cup last 32

The HuddFather wrote:

DS wrote:

Calidad wrote:They did control and attack though...they just couldn't score

It was not a attack from midfield, you didnt see one runner, no body attacking from the midfield, nobody is going to the byline stretching the play.
They didnt create that much with the control.

Sounds more like a Liverp0-0l type of match.

Jaime wrote:

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

DS wrote:

Calidad wrote:They did control and attack though...they just couldn't score

It was not a attack from midfield, you didnt see one runner, no body attacking from the midfield, nobody is going to the byline stretching the play.
They didnt create that much with the control.

But if you are playing with three front players, you don't shouldn't need the whole midfield bombing forward.

Your hate campaign against DM's just doesn't stop

If you lose 0-1 how does having Makelele help you? If you lose 0-3 then, yes, I can see how a DM would help.

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

DS wrote:

Calidad wrote:They did control and attack though...they just couldn't score

It was not a attack from midfield, you didnt see one runner, no body attacking from the midfield, nobody is going to the byline stretching the play.
They didnt create that much with the control.

But if you are playing with three front players, you don't shouldn't need the whole midfield bombing forward.

Your hate campaign against DM's just doesn't stop

If you lose 0-1 how does having Makelele help you? If you lose 0-3 then, yes, I can see how a DM would help.

That's straight forward though. you got more chance of scoring with 2 strikers and 4 midfielders than 6 strikers. a DM can always win the ball back quicker, give license for others to break into positions they may be reluctant to if they know it could leave the team vulnerable otherwise and such.

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

DS wrote:

Calidad wrote:They did control and attack though...they just couldn't score

It was not a attack from midfield, you didnt see one runner, no body attacking from the midfield, nobody is going to the byline stretching the play.
They didnt create that much with the control.

But if you are playing with three front players, you don't shouldn't need the whole midfield bombing forward.

Your hate campaign against DM's just doesn't stop

If you lose 0-1 how does having Makelele help you? If you lose 0-3 then, yes, I can see how a DM would help.

That's straight forward though. you got more chance of scoring with 2 strikers and 4 midfielders than 6 strikers. a DM can always win the ball back quicker, give license for others to break into positions they may be reluctant to if they know it could leave the team vulnerable otherwise and such.

Jaime wrote:

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

DS wrote:

Calidad wrote:They did control and attack though...they just couldn't score

It was not a attack from midfield, you didnt see one runner, no body attacking from the midfield, nobody is going to the byline stretching the play.
They didnt create that much with the control.

But if you are playing with three front players, you don't shouldn't need the whole midfield bombing forward.

Your hate campaign against DM's just doesn't stop

If you lose 0-1 how does having Makelele help you? If you lose 0-3 then, yes, I can see how a DM would help.

That's straight forward though. you got more chance of scoring with 2 strikers and 4 midfielders than 6 strikers. a DM can always win the ball back quicker, give license for others to break into positions they may be reluctant to if they know it could leave the team vulnerable otherwise and such.

They were already doing that! Bluenine said if they had a "true" DM they would have won. I say if they had someone that could finish they would have won anyway.

DS wrote:So what will happen in the return leg of this game, will Ajax resume the strange strategy ? Will Fiorentina attack from the start ?

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

DS wrote:

Calidad wrote:They did control and attack though...they just couldn't score

It was not a attack from midfield, you didnt see one runner, no body attacking from the midfield, nobody is going to the byline stretching the play.
They didnt create that much with the control.

But if you are playing with three front players, you don't shouldn't need the whole midfield bombing forward.

Your hate campaign against DM's just doesn't stop

If you lose 0-1 how does having Makelele help you? If you lose 0-3 then, yes, I can see how a DM would help.

That's straight forward though. you got more chance of scoring with 2 strikers and 4 midfielders than 6 strikers. a DM can always win the ball back quicker, give license for others to break into positions they may be reluctant to if they know it could leave the team vulnerable otherwise and such.

They were already doing that! Bluenine said if they had a "true" DM they would have won. I say if they had someone that could finish they would have won anyway.

You know what i say? Villarreal > Fiorentina

Jaime wrote:

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

DS wrote:

Calidad wrote:They did control and attack though...they just couldn't score

It was not a attack from midfield, you didnt see one runner, no body attacking from the midfield, nobody is going to the byline stretching the play.
They didnt create that much with the control.

But if you are playing with three front players, you don't shouldn't need the whole midfield bombing forward.

Your hate campaign against DM's just doesn't stop

If you lose 0-1 how does having Makelele help you? If you lose 0-3 then, yes, I can see how a DM would help.

That's straight forward though. you got more chance of scoring with 2 strikers and 4 midfielders than 6 strikers. a DM can always win the ball back quicker, give license for others to break into positions they may be reluctant to if they know it could leave the team vulnerable otherwise and such.

They were already doing that! Bluenine said if they had a "true" DM they would have won. I say if they had someone that could finish they would have won anyway.

You know what i say? Villarreal > Fiorentina

Yeah, but it's not because of Senna.

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

DS wrote:

Calidad wrote:They did control and attack though...they just couldn't score

It was not a attack from midfield, you didnt see one runner, no body attacking from the midfield, nobody is going to the byline stretching the play.
They didnt create that much with the control.

But if you are playing with three front players, you don't shouldn't need the whole midfield bombing forward.

Your hate campaign against DM's just doesn't stop

If you lose 0-1 how does having Makelele help you? If you lose 0-3 then, yes, I can see how a DM would help.

That's straight forward though. you got more chance of scoring with 2 strikers and 4 midfielders than 6 strikers. a DM can always win the ball back quicker, give license for others to break into positions they may be reluctant to if they know it could leave the team vulnerable otherwise and such.

They were already doing that! Bluenine said if they had a "true" DM they would have won. I say if they had someone that could finish they would have won anyway.

You know what i say? Villarreal > Fiorentina

Yeah, but it's not because of Senna.

It's because of an Italian!

Fey wrote:Ajax goes to HSV they win 0-1
Ajax goes to Fiorentina they win 0-1
Ajax goes to Villa they lose 2-1

Villa is just AMAZING!

Villas

DS wrote:

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

L-r d wrote:

Jaime wrote:

DS wrote:

Calidad wrote:They did control and attack though...they just couldn't score

It was not a attack from midfield, you didnt see one runner, no body attacking from the midfield, nobody is going to the byline stretching the play.
They didnt create that much with the control.

But if you are playing with three front players, you don't shouldn't need the whole midfield bombing forward.

Your hate campaign against DM's just doesn't stop

If you lose 0-1 how does having Makelele help you? If you lose 0-3 then, yes, I can see how a DM would help.

That's straight forward though. you got more chance of scoring with 2 strikers and 4 midfielders than 6 strikers. a DM can always win the ball back quicker, give license for others to break into positions they may be reluctant to if they know it could leave the team vulnerable otherwise and such.

That is what blue meant for me.

Jaime wrote:http://www.uefa.com/competitions/uefacup/fixturesresults/round=15286/match=304803/report=rp.html

Yes, if only they had Mahamadou Diarra they would have won!

DS wrote:What will be the team onurugs ?

Onur 1905 wrote:

DS wrote:What will be the team onurugs ?

Now I realize that you replied me, sorry.

debaser wrote:Martin O'Neill has admitted the lack of depth in his squad prompted the decision to send a shadow side to CSKA Moscow for Thursday's UEFA Cup second-leg clash.

O'Neill is desperate for Villa to cling on to a top-four place in the Barclays Premier League and secure a Champions League spot for the first time.

But he accepts he does not have sufficient numbers to be able to mount a strong challenge for UEFA Cup glory alongside that main objective and is confident the Villa fans will understand his stance.

Stand-in captain Gareth Barry, Brad Friedel, Emile Heskey, James Milner, Ashley Young, Gabriel Agbonlahor, Carlos Cuellar and Stiliyan Petrov are all excluded from the 19-man party.

O'Neill said: "We want to keep momentum going in the Premier League - an opinion I am sure Villa fans would echo.

"But we don't really have the size of squad that Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal can call on. That's not being defeatist - that's just being realistic.

"None of the players mentioned the first leg against CSKA Moscow as an excuse for the Chelsea defeat at the weekend - but I will.

"The irony is we broke our necks to get into Europe.

"We have to try and please Villa fans but I am sure they would think that the Premier League, which can help drive you into the Champions League, is the holy grail.

"It seems strange I know but had we been seventh, eighth or ninth, let's say, in the table, it would have been a different outlook.

"Chasing a top-four spot, though, to get you a place in the Champions League, is everything."

The injured trio of Martin Laursen, Nigel Reo-Coker and Wilfred Bouma will also be unavailable while Luke Young, Curtis Davies, Zat Knight and John Carew are among the few experienced players in the squad.

Youngsters such as Elliott Parish, Eric Lichaj, Ciaran Clark, Shane Lowry, Barry Bannan and Mark Albrighton are included.



Far as I can tell, this will make the team:

Guzan
Young-Davies-Knight-Shorey
Gardner-Salifou-Sidwell
Delfouneso-Carew-Harewood

with the kids on the bench.

It's time for the Togolese Zidane to step up


A few of those 'rested' are just back from injury, or carrying slight knocks (Milner, Heskey, Cuellar, Barry), which makes sense. So it's only really Friedel, Petrov, Young and Agbonlahor who've been rested. I would've at least kept Petrov and Young in personally. Delf is reasonable cover for Agbonlahor (who's been knackered lately) and I don't mind Guzan - but we have no-one who can take Young's place and we'll miss Petrov & Barry badly in the centre.

No chance we're going to get a result with the above side, unless CSKA collapse laughing when they see the teamsheet.

bluenine wrote:

Calidad wrote:I've only watched the 2nd half but Fiorentina have been all over Ajax. I wouldn't rule them out yet even if they do lose this leg.

Yup, thats typical. Shows a midfield which has great skills, but not enough control or defensive strength. I have seen this so so many times... Fiorentina dominating the game, but still going home empty handed... even the semis last year against Rangers was like that, with Fiorentina dominating both the legs, but to what point??

We'll give our all, says Mazzarri Thursday 26 February, 2009
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Sampdoria Coach Walter Mazzarri insists he will do everything to beat Metalist Kharkiv this evening but will not select Antonio Cassano or Angelo Palombo. The Blucerchiati lost the first leg of their UEFA Cup Third Round tie 1-0 at Marassi and need to score twice in Ukraine if they are to progress.

“The decision not to select Palombo and Cassano has been taken in accordance with their interests,” Mazzarri revealed. “Palombo has been suffering with an injury for a long time and we need to be aware not to force him too much. As for Cassano, he has played a lot this year and appears tired to me.”

Mazzarri is fully aware of the scale of the task that awaits his side and believes Metalist will resolutely defend their aggregate lead.

“I expect Metalist to play as they did in the first leg with a lot of possession,” Mazzarri explained. “They also have two results out of three at their disposition. “Anyway, I am absolutely convinced that whomever I put on the pitch will go out there and give their best.”

Sampdoria are back in action on the domestic front this weekend when they welcome third placed Milan to Marassi.