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De Guzman wrote:Aston Villa have left eight regular first-team players out of the squad to face CSKA Moscow in the Uefa Cup second-leg match in Russia on Thursday.
Gareth Barry, Brad Friedel, Emile Heskey, James Milner, Ashley Young, Gabriel Agbonlahor, Carlos Cuellar and Stiliyan Petrov are all excluded.
"Chasing a top-four spot to get a Champions League place is everything," said Villa manager Martin O'Neill.
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NEC will rest key midifelders, Sibum, Radomski & Schoene in the useless away match v HSV.
I gues O'Neill thinks that the tie is already over with only 1-1 at home. Otherwise that it is rather sad. I gues they are following the same approach as the italian.
SuperMario- Number of posts : 16866
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Makes sense what he did, though it can be argued it's a little too late: him playing his full team in the first leg had an impact on their loss v Chelski.
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Cirque du Barcelona wrote:4th place in England has become more important than winning a european cup. Welcome to modern football.
This is the reason why football has become like chess, it's all about the money!!
Ridiculous to give up a quarter final of a EC to try to hold a 4th place..which doesnt give you anything yet!
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De Guzman wrote:Makes sense what he did, though it can be argued it's a little too late: him playing his full team in the first leg had an impact on their loss v Chelski.
he rested a few first team players in the first leg, Friedel being a key player for the team.
You have to have some sympathy for their travelling support, Russia isn't a cheap place to visit, or an easy one. Martin O'Neill is a disgrace and you can understand why most Villa fans want him sacked.
The 2001 UEFA Cup Final was one of the best nights of my life as a Liverpool supporter and I have nothing but pity for the Villa fans who will be denied the chance to experience this by their disgraceful manager.
Teams who devalue the competition like this should be banned from Europe and their place given to a side or country that will treat it with respect.
Martin O'Neill is a disgrace, and Redknapp isn't much better.
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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a) We'd be second favourites tonight even with full strength team. b) We're not just aiming for 4th. 1pt behind Chelsea, 4 behind Pool. Neither insurmountable.Yef wrote:Ridiculous to give up a quarter final of a EC to try to hold a 4th place..which doesnt give you anything yet!
Glenn: have another guess.
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Is the Villa game on Tv tonight then?
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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Nah. have to find a stream. Channel 5 didn't want us 
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@glenn
do most Villa fans really want MON sacked? Dount this very much. Anyway MON has been great for them & spending money & therefater not being able to watch your fullstrength team comes with the territory of being a top club. Luxury problem.
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@glenn
do most Villa fans really want MON sacked? Dount this very much. Anyway MON has been great for them & spending money & therefater not being able to watch your fullstrength team comes with the territory of being a top club. Luxury problem.
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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Cheers, DeGuz.
Glenn was just being silly. No Villa fans want O'Neill sacked (however much of a disgrace he may or may not be
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Glenn was just being silly. No Villa fans want O'Neill sacked (however much of a disgrace he may or may not be
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debaser wrote:Martin O'Neill has admitted the lack of depth in his squad prompted the decision to send a shadow side to CSKA Moscow for Thursday's UEFA Cup second-leg clash.
O'Neill is desperate for Villa to cling on to a top-four place in the Barclays Premier League and secure a Champions League spot for the first time.
But he accepts he does not have sufficient numbers to be able to mount a strong challenge for UEFA Cup glory alongside that main objective and is confident the Villa fans will understand his stance.
Stand-in captain Gareth Barry, Brad Friedel, Emile Heskey, James Milner, Ashley Young, Gabriel Agbonlahor, Carlos Cuellar and Stiliyan Petrov are all excluded from the 19-man party.
O'Neill said: "We want to keep momentum going in the Premier League - an opinion I am sure Villa fans would echo.
"But we don't really have the size of squad that Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal can call on. That's not being defeatist - that's just being realistic.
"None of the players mentioned the first leg against CSKA Moscow as an excuse for the Chelsea defeat at the weekend - but I will.
"The irony is we broke our necks to get into Europe.
"We have to try and please Villa fans but I am sure they would think that the Premier League, which can help drive you into the Champions League, is the holy grail.
"It seems strange I know but had we been seventh, eighth or ninth, let's say, in the table, it would have been a different outlook.
"Chasing a top-four spot, though, to get you a place in the Champions League, is everything."
The injured trio of Martin Laursen, Nigel Reo-Coker and Wilfred Bouma will also be unavailable while Luke Young, Curtis Davies, Zat Knight and John Carew are among the few experienced players in the squad.
Youngsters such as Elliott Parish, Eric Lichaj, Ciaran Clark, Shane Lowry, Barry Bannan and Mark Albrighton are included.
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COTR and Six disagree. Think they should both have a word with MON. They clearly know more about his squad than he does.
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Sgoater1 wrote:AC Milan 4/1 Werder Bremen 25/1 Twente 50/1
Man City 7/1 PSG 33/1 Olympiacos 50/1
Valencia 8/1 St Etienne 33/1 Sampdoria 50/1
Hamburg 12/1 Galatasaray 33/1 Stuttgart 50/1
Shakhtar Donetsk 16/1 Fiorentina 33/1 Deportivo 66/1
CSKA Moscow 16/1 Dinamo Kiev 33/1 Standard Liege 66/1
Udinese 20/1 Bordeaux 40/1 Aab Aalborg 66/1
Tottenham 20/1 Marseille 40/1 Copenhagen 250/1
Ajax 20/1 Wolfsburg 50/1 Lech Poznan 250/1
Zenit 20/1 Braga 50/1 Nijmegan 500/1
Aston Villa 20/1 Metalist Kharkov 50/1
The revised odds for the UEFA Cup...we are 2nd favs. I got us at 50/1 the day we were taken over, stuck £10 each way.
We offer 11/1 for City and 25/1 fror Tottenham...if you are interested.
I mean you already have 50's...but we offer a better price for this stage than other bookmakers it seems.
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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Carew late injury problem
Subs: Taylor, Harewood, Osbourne, Lichaj, Clark, Lowry.
Feel sorry for Marlon! Bannan and Albrighton get their first starts, away to CSKA in a 2nd leg UEFA knockout! Gotta hope the kids can spring a shock
Guzan
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Albrighton------------------------Bannan
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Subs: Taylor, Harewood, Osbourne, Lichaj, Clark, Lowry.
Feel sorry for Marlon! Bannan and Albrighton get their first starts, away to CSKA in a 2nd leg UEFA knockout! Gotta hope the kids can spring a shock
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MON is a disgrace!!!
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Hamburg lead 1-0 already, Olic with the goal.
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Samp already 2-0 down at HT...
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What a freekick Ben Arfa... at last the kid is doin something good.
0-1 Marseille
0-1 Marseille
SuperMario- Number of posts : 16866
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Looks like a swamp that pitch at Twente
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at what point do away goals count double? 90 mins or 120 mins?
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Oooh! Love Wanger goes close after good work by Jerk off.
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Jerk off 1-0 good set piece move
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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cska goal
just got in from playing football, and literally the first thing I see when the stream starts. Ergo, I am a curse
just got in from playing football, and literally the first thing I see when the stream starts. Ergo, I am a curse
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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How have we been playing? surprised it took that long for CSKA to go ahead, with the team out there.
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you're getting owned, The Disgrace turned to his supersub, Marlon Hairyballs but, no, you're getting owned. Your manager somehow manages to look surprised.
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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Hmm. Need a classic suckerpunch then. We don't really have a midfield by the looks of it.
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Ben Arfa.. 
Glenarch of the Glen- Number of posts : 30157
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you don't need a sucker punch, you need to rohypnol CSKA, tie them up in the cellar and shoot them in the face one by one.
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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Here comes Isiah to save the day 
Glenarch of the Glen- Number of posts : 30157
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I went to Fulham vs Wycome in the FA Cup a few years ago and Zat Knight was playing CM for Fulham. If you can imagine Patrick Viera playing football while pissed and stoned, that;s what Zat Knight looked like.
Glenarch of the Glen- Number of posts : 30157
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even if Villa somehow force a late equaliser CSKA seem to have so much in reserve.
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