UEFA Cup last 32

Fey wrote:As pundit, it was shown how much of a disgrace MON really is!

Anyway, the JOLFATHER is in the next round..Been sadly not, but same goes for RAMOS and REDKNAPP!!

JOL OUT

MON, Ramos, Redknapp - none are half as much of a disgrace as Feyenoord football club

De Guzman wrote:Extra time! @Twente v Marseille

You got a decent stream for that ?

Mine is stopping all the time

Meet the Redknapps wrote:

Fey wrote:As pundit, it was shown how much of a disgrace MON really is!

Anyway, the JOLFATHER is in the next round..Been sadly not, but same goes for RAMOS and REDKNAPP!!

JOL OUT

MON, Ramos, Redknapp - none are half as much of a disgrace as Feyenoord football club

I half expected HSV you know..

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

Meet the Redknapps wrote:MON is a legend

you mean disgrace?

No

Yes

When Villa can get into the CL next season, do they really give a shit about the UEFA cup?

IF Villa get into the CL, they will be KOed in the group stage and most likely go back into the UEFA cup. They are a UEFA cup level team (plus if they wanted to have a better chance in the CL they could actually do with the coefficient points).

Why? because they have no pace? Or are you making a prediction before a ball has been kicked. Disgrace

No experience, poor seeding, disgraceful manager and not good enough.

The Italians have had that attitude for ages. Except in both the CL and Uefa cup (where the matches can't be fixed), hence why they've been shit in Europe for years.

Nothing new to see here

erm didn't Milan win the CL a couple of seasons ago?

Easy to do well in Europe when you're fixing matches in the league. All the other teams were , and have been, shit in Europe for some time now

The part in bold doesn't make sense.

You were wrong. You can't just discount Milan.

Galatasaray 2-1
(agg 2-1)
Bordeaux HT
Turan 43
Kewell 45
Bellion 1

Bookings:
Topal 17
Baros 38

Bookings:
Diawara 45+1


Forgot Kewell was still a footballer. And didn't even notice Baros had gone to Galatasaray. Crazy.

debaser wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

When Villa can get into the CL next season, do they really give a shit about the UEFA cup?

IF Villa get into the CL, they will be KOed in the group stage and most likely go back into the UEFA cup. They are a UEFA cup level team (plus if they wanted to have a better chance in the CL they could actually do with the coefficient points).

Also a European Cup winning team, once upon a time. Seriously, what is wrong with trying to make progress? Villa is a bigger club than, for example, Chelsea - barring the success Abramovich bought in recent years. Even if we went out straight away, it'd be a big step to finish in the top 4, given how the league has been for the last 5 yrs.

I'm not talking about history though. In the long run, Villa won't be able to maintain that top 4 position.

Meet the Redknapps wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

debaser wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

Unflinching Frenchman wrote:Bobo, any specific reason to hate the guy?

he talks alot of shit

"italy don't have enough pace to win the WC"

Omigod! Pundit makes inaccurate prediction/observation! Never thought I would hear of such a thing! He deserves eternal damnation for daring to question those wonderful Italians!

Well he does look pretty stupid now. That was just one example.

The way he talked about Trezeguet - he seemed very ill informed. Same goes for Ibrahimovic and Totti.

Probably because all three are massively overrated to anyone who isn't Italian or still thinks it's the mid 90's and Serie A rules le monde

More like he is still bitter at Trezeguet scoring against him.

but well done, you missed my point completely

debaser wrote:Galatasaray 2-1
(agg 2-1)
Bordeaux HT
Turan 43
Kewell 45
Bellion 1

Bookings:
Topal 17
Baros 38

Bookings:
Diawara 45+1


Forgot Kewell was still a footballer. And didn't even notice Baros had gone to Galatasaray. Crazy.

What about Bellion? I thought he was dead

Meet the Redknapps wrote:

Fey wrote:As pundit, it was shown how much of a disgrace MON really is!

Anyway, the JOLFATHER is in the next round..Been sadly not, but same goes for RAMOS and REDKNAPP!!

JOL OUT

MON, Ramos, Redknapp - none are half as much of a disgrace as Feyenoord football club

That is below the belt...even for you!!!

Axeslammer wrote:

De Guzman wrote:Extra time! @Twente v Marseille

You got a decent stream for that ?

Mine is stopping all the time

http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/503010

Alive and Kicking wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:

De Guzman wrote:Extra time! @Twente v Marseille

You got a decent stream for that ?

Mine is stopping all the time

http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/503010

Thanks a lot !

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

debaser wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

When Villa can get into the CL next season, do they really give a shit about the UEFA cup?

IF Villa get into the CL, they will be KOed in the group stage and most likely go back into the UEFA cup. They are a UEFA cup level team (plus if they wanted to have a better chance in the CL they could actually do with the coefficient points).

Also a European Cup winning team, once upon a time. Seriously, what is wrong with trying to make progress? Villa is a bigger club than, for example, Chelsea - barring the success Abramovich bought in recent years. Even if we went out straight away, it'd be a big step to finish in the top 4, given how the league has been for the last 5 yrs.

I'm not talking about history though. In the long run, Villa won't be able to maintain that top 4 position.

Why not? We got very good backing in terms of money, quite a few young players who could stick around long term, a stable management set-up, and large potential fanbase. Do you really think the 'big 4' will never change? How can you ignore history on one hand...and then suggest you know what will happen long-term? You can only have any conception of long-term future by looking at historical trends - the teams at the top don't stay fixed forever.

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

Meet the Redknapps wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

debaser wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

Unflinching Frenchman wrote:Bobo, any specific reason to hate the guy?

he talks alot of shit

"italy don't have enough pace to win the WC"

Omigod! Pundit makes inaccurate prediction/observation! Never thought I would hear of such a thing! He deserves eternal damnation for daring to question those wonderful Italians!

Well he does look pretty stupid now. That was just one example.

The way he talked about Trezeguet - he seemed very ill informed. Same goes for Ibrahimovic and Totti.

Probably because all three are massively overrated to anyone who isn't Italian or still thinks it's the mid 90's and Serie A rules le monde

More like he is still bitter at Trezeguet scoring against him.

but well done, you missed my point completely

Sorry, was it a profound one, or were you just calling MON a disgrace because he doesn't appear to have much of an affinity for Italian football?

Anyway, we must be digressing, as you haven't mentioned Rio Ferdinand in the last 10 minutes or so

Wolfsburg 1-3 P.S.G

debaser wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

debaser wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

When Villa can get into the CL next season, do they really give a shit about the UEFA cup?

IF Villa get into the CL, they will be KOed in the group stage and most likely go back into the UEFA cup. They are a UEFA cup level team (plus if they wanted to have a better chance in the CL they could actually do with the coefficient points).

Also a European Cup winning team, once upon a time. Seriously, what is wrong with trying to make progress? Villa is a bigger club than, for example, Chelsea - barring the success Abramovich bought in recent years. Even if we went out straight away, it'd be a big step to finish in the top 4, given how the league has been for the last 5 yrs.

I'm not talking about history though. In the long run, Villa won't be able to maintain that top 4 position.

Why not? We got very good backing in terms of money, quite a few young players who could stick around long term, a stable management set-up, and large potential fanbase. Do you really think the 'big 4' will never change? How can you ignore history on one hand...and then suggest you know what will happen long-term? You can only have any conception of long-term future by looking at historical trends - the teams at the top don't stay fixed forever.

Generally speaking they do though - look at Barca and Real Madrid in Spain or Juventus. Milan and Inter in Italy.

debaser wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

debaser wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

When Villa can get into the CL next season, do they really give a shit about the UEFA cup?

IF Villa get into the CL, they will be KOed in the group stage and most likely go back into the UEFA cup. They are a UEFA cup level team (plus if they wanted to have a better chance in the CL they could actually do with the coefficient points).

Also a European Cup winning team, once upon a time. Seriously, what is wrong with trying to make progress? Villa is a bigger club than, for example, Chelsea - barring the success Abramovich bought in recent years. Even if we went out straight away, it'd be a big step to finish in the top 4, given how the league has been for the last 5 yrs.

I'm not talking about history though. In the long run, Villa won't be able to maintain that top 4 position.

Why not? We got very good backing in terms of money, quite a few young players who could stick around long term, a stable management set-up, and large potential fanbase. Do you really think the 'big 4' will never change? How can you ignore history on one hand...and then suggest you know what will happen long-term? You can only have any conception of long-term future by looking at historical trends - the teams at the top don't stay fixed forever.

@Debaser,

Breath : don't bother wasting it if I were you. You won't get any sense from this one once he's developed an agenda.

Villa are actually better off financially than Arsenal, so if they can nick the 4th spot, there is no reason why they can't hold onto it, especially as they'll be able to attract better players with CL football.

sorry saw just saw you asked axe: stream for twente & other matches



http://www.atdhe.net/

Meet the Redknapps wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

Meet the Redknapps wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

debaser wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

Unflinching Frenchman wrote:Bobo, any specific reason to hate the guy?

he talks alot of shit

"italy don't have enough pace to win the WC"

Omigod! Pundit makes inaccurate prediction/observation! Never thought I would hear of such a thing! He deserves eternal damnation for daring to question those wonderful Italians!

Well he does look pretty stupid now. That was just one example.

The way he talked about Trezeguet - he seemed very ill informed. Same goes for Ibrahimovic and Totti.

Probably because all three are massively overrated to anyone who isn't Italian or still thinks it's the mid 90's and Serie A rules le monde

More like he is still bitter at Trezeguet scoring against him.

but well done, you missed my point completely

Sorry, was it a profound one, or were you just calling MON a disgrace because he doesn't appear to have much of an affinity for Italian football?

Anyway, we must be digressing, as you haven't mentioned Rio Ferdinand in the last 10 minutes or so

Just the way he is ill informed. For example,on Trezeguet in 06, he said that he wasn't as good as he was a few years ago. This was a player who just finished as 2nd topscorer in Serie A with 23 goals and bagged 6 goals in the CL. It was quite clear that MON didn't have a clue what he was actually talking about. Fair enough he can have his opinions but it would be nice if he actually backed them up instead of just talking out of his arse.

How did Hershi not score

Looks like a proper old fashioned *exciting* European match

Kone defending a corner. Priceless.

Btw where is Lorik Cana? Thought he celebrate with Ben Arfa after the goal..

Peru power!!!!!
Rengifo makes it 1-0 for Lech!!!
Well deserved lead after 12 mins for team from Poznan.

Axeslammer wrote:How did Hershi not score

Looks like a proper old fashioned *exciting* European match

yep's been a real old skool cup tie.

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

debaser wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

debaser wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

When Villa can get into the CL next season, do they really give a shit about the UEFA cup?

IF Villa get into the CL, they will be KOed in the group stage and most likely go back into the UEFA cup. They are a UEFA cup level team (plus if they wanted to have a better chance in the CL they could actually do with the coefficient points).

Also a European Cup winning team, once upon a time. Seriously, what is wrong with trying to make progress? Villa is a bigger club than, for example, Chelsea - barring the success Abramovich bought in recent years. Even if we went out straight away, it'd be a big step to finish in the top 4, given how the league has been for the last 5 yrs.

I'm not talking about history though. In the long run, Villa won't be able to maintain that top 4 position.

Why not? We got very good backing in terms of money, quite a few young players who could stick around long term, a stable management set-up, and large potential fanbase. Do you really think the 'big 4' will never change? How can you ignore history on one hand...and then suggest you know what will happen long-term? You can only have any conception of long-term future by looking at historical trends - the teams at the top don't stay fixed forever.

Generally speaking they do though - look at Barca and Real Madrid in Spain or Juventus. Milan and Inter in Italy.

But we're talking top 4. I doubt there's been any major league where the same 4 teams have occupied the top 4 as long as has happened in the PL recently. Of course, Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal will always be big clubs, in and around the top of the league - but you've yet to give a convincing argument why Villa couldn't establish themselves in the top 4 for a few seasons.

Chelsea are a smaller club than Villa, and managed to establish themselves. They did it by mass spending in short period of time. Villa are trying to do it by a more gradual method. It might work, might not. You don't know and nor do I.

If you can't score from open play with Kone, Ben Arfa and of course Niang - you don't deserve to go through. Any let's wait for the penalties.

Udinese 0-1 down v Lech after 15'

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Yes Penalties! amazing we still got them. Some players really missed sitters.

De Guzman wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:How did Hershi not score

Looks like a proper old fashioned *exciting* European match

yep's been a real old skool cup tie.

Agree.

Penalty shoot out between Twente and Marseille

How's the Twente goal keeper? He must be good.

Mandanda has been full of sh!t off late.. And this is number 1 GK for France. Because of Domenech's feud with Frey!!

Alive and Kicking wrote:How's the Twente goal keeper? He must be good.

very experienced.