GERMANY has catched italy in the 5years ranking

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Italy has to get 2.135 points or more than Germany this season to maintain their third spot.

If they don't do that, Germany will take over.

bluenine wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Fey wrote:Many people underestimate the money and power in Russia and the Ukraine. Ages ago I saw a documentary about Mentalist in the Ukraine..their complex would dwarf that of Real Madrid.

Those clubs are coming, better be prepared for it.

Ukraine are currently 3rd in UEFA coefficients earned this season. And I am quite sure they will end the season ahead of Spain & Italy, considering that they have 3 clubs still alive, all in UEFA Cup.

Looks like Barca and Inter were unprepared, they shud ve listened to ya Fey

Fey wrote:

bluenine wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Fey wrote:Many people underestimate the money and power in Russia and the Ukraine. Ages ago I saw a documentary about Mentalist in the Ukraine..their complex would dwarf that of Real Madrid.

Those clubs are coming, better be prepared for it.

Ukraine are currently 3rd in UEFA coefficients earned this season. And I am quite sure they will end the season ahead of Spain & Italy, considering that they have 3 clubs still alive, all in UEFA Cup.

Looks like Barca and Inter were unprepared, they shud ve listened to ya Fey

Of course they should have listened to me! If only more people did!

Now for the UEFA coefficients, that system is flawed. In Europe the German teams are hardly any better then the Dutch teams. But soon we could have 6/6 German teams in the Europe League! That's 1/3 of the Bundesliga, that is ridiculous.

So points for the CL should be much higher, and UEFA should stop with giving teams that ended third in the CL group a ticket for the Europa League.

bluenine wrote:

Effenberg wrote:

Alive and Kicking wrote:How far is Germany from France and Russia? Russian teams are doing well, they are getting dangerous.

It seems nobody understands how the 5-year ranking works. Bar a complete breakdown by all German teams, Germany will be 3rd after this season.

They are miles ahead of France, the Ukraine and Russia. And so is Italy, of course.

This is what you have to look at:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method4/crank2011.html

As I mentioned above, Germany are still 3.3 points short of Italy. Thats the number you have to gain over Italy from now to the end of the season. Its possible, but not as easy as you seem to think.

Germany will have a better shot at it next season, when Italy lose another 5 points as compared to Germany in the 5 year ranking.

Effenberg wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Effenberg wrote:

Alive and Kicking wrote:How far is Germany from France and Russia? Russian teams are doing well, they are getting dangerous.

It seems nobody understands how the 5-year ranking works. Bar a complete breakdown by all German teams, Germany will be 3rd after this season.

They are miles ahead of France, the Ukraine and Russia. And so is Italy, of course.

This is what you have to look at:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method4/crank2011.html

As I mentioned above, Germany are still 3.3 points short of Italy. Thats the number you have to gain over Italy from now to the end of the season. Its possible, but not as easy as you seem to think.

Germany will have a better shot at it next season, when Italy lose another 5 points as compared to Germany in the 5 year ranking.

No. Italy have to gain more because they're losing a crapload more points than Germany after this season. Hence, the link I provided. You might want to try clicking on it.

Same goes for the dude who called me an arrogant prick, yet claimed he understood the system, but clearly doesn't.

Forza got it.

Effenberg wrote:Alright, I was wrong. Sorry to all I pissed off. Bad week at work.

Funny thing, I don't really care if we get 4 CL spots. It's not like 3 of those teams will make it to the quarters anyway. Guess it's just me reacting to the increasingly hostile anti-German vibes around here.

Apologies.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Thanks for that bluenine .

I feel a bit better now . Now please Inter get some points for Italy!

72-76-80-96-08 wrote:Wolfsburg, Stuttgart and Bayern have little chance in the CL

for the sake of our co-efficient, I hope ALL THREE end up THIRD in their groups and go on to collect points in the Europa league

so far it looks good

bluenine wrote:Italian teams doing well so far, leading this seasons coefficients:

1. Italy 8.29
2. England 8.07
3. Spain 7.93
4. Germany 7.58
5. France 7.50

But the difficult part comes now... there is rarely much of a difference in coefficients in the first half of the season. Its the second half when you earn the coefficients that matter... With the German teams likely to go to Europa cup from CL, they might end up earning more points than the Italians. In Europa, Lazio look likely to go out, while Roma and Genoa need some results to qualify - its not looking comfortable at all.

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

bluenine wrote:Italian teams doing well so far, leading this seasons coefficients:

1. Italy 8.29
2. England 8.07
3. Spain 7.93
4. Germany 7.58
5. France 7.50

But the difficult part comes now... there is rarely much of a difference in coefficients in the first half of the season. Its the second half when you earn the coefficients that matter... With the German teams likely to go to Europa cup from CL, they might end up earning more points than the Italians. In Europa, Lazio look likely to go out, while Roma and Genoa need some results to qualify - its not looking comfortable at all.

Are sure those are right?

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method4/ccoef2010.html

The English teams are leading the way in the CL again, but their EL sides are letting them down, especially Aston Villa who havn't picked up points for the last 4 games. Roma are in a good position to qualify, a win against Basel in their next game would do it. Can't say it looks like we will go through, we have a worse head to head record against Villareal, and still have to play Salzburg away (though hopefully they field a weakened side). Genoa look in a better position, but like you said, they still have work to do.

Someone on here said that CL teams get 5 points for qualifying from their group, is this true?

Özil wrote:3 points the difference now

omg its possible this year,

lazio is already out


next week wolfsburg, stuttgart and bayern, they can reach the next round or will get punished into the euro league

Tweesus wrote:You Germans are forgetting who the president of UEFA is.

He'll step in and protect his beloved Serie A