Shearer and stuff

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Shearer's Ego wouldn't let him go to a place where he just might not have been the no.1 guy

Bash, I'm not sure anyone ever kicked Shearer in the face. I pretty certain it never happened though, because judging by the way Shearer whined after the Justin Whittle incident, we'd have never heard the end of it.

@Bash

Not exactly win-win, but it is a calculated move. If he was considering going for the job in the summer, it certainly makes sense on one level to take it now instead, as expectations would be completely different at the start of a season (whatever division you were in) and the responsibility for the season would be almost entirely his.

As it is now, if you go down people certainly won't see him as significantly responsible due to how late he's coming in - and he will almost certainly get the first shot at being the guy who brings you back (and you should be able to bounce straight back, looking at the Championship this season). If you stay up, he gets almost instant kudos as manager and will be given lots of leeway by fans/owners in the next season or so - more than perhaps he would get if he just took over in the summer.

Basically, it's a chance to earn some managerial stripes pretty quickly, and he's not going to get much blame if he doesn't succeed straight off (where he might if he'd had a whole summer to buy players, etc).

Costinha! wrote:Shearer's Ego wouldn't let him go to a place where he just might not have been the no.1 guy

Bash, I'm not sure anyone ever kicked Shearer in the face. I pretty certain it never happened though, because judging by the way Shearer whined after the Justin Whittle incident, we'd have never heard the end of it.

I'm not sure Shearer ever stamped on anyones ballsack, but that didn't stop Huth having a go at his.

Being the no1 guy at a club isn't easy, Jurgen did it for you lot and clearly hated it.

Anyone else besides me actually think this is a good decision by Ashley (assuming it's him who approached Shearer and not vice versa) ? Because Shearer will be able to give the players and fans that little bit of inspiration and a boost to get them through and win a key game or three before the end of the season. It also gets a no-hoper like Hughton out of the manager's chair.

Why has he waited till now?

Changed you're mind about newcastle being relegated now Kimbo?

No Sherear on MOTD for the rest of the season(hopefully)

It is obviously good for us that Shearer has been appointed until the end of the season. But I'm not inclined to call this a good decision on Ashley's part, because he is the reason we have been without a proper manager for the majority of the season, and we have only made this appointment at the very last minute, with few games left, with us two points adrift in the relegation places. I don't trust Ashley in the slightest - I know that he is fundamentally a cheat - so I'll wait until the summer and determine then whether he's actually attempting to change and to do things for the good of the club.

TS: I'm not sure that Shearer ever kicked anyone in the face. Neil Lennon defended him at the trial he was forced (contrary to the rules) to go through relating to that incident. And did he whine so much about Justin Whittle? He took an elbow in the face, got straight up, played the rest of the game against the same defender, and then commented on the elbow in a post-match interview. I saw Shearer play pretty much every other week for nine years at St James', and I know that in that time, he was fouled far more than he fouled others, and he received no protection whatsoever from the referees - referees frequently seemed to come to Newcastle intent on giving Shearer nothing, as if to prove they weren't swayed by a big reputation, or by a local hero.

Debaser: If Shearer had been appointed now on a permanent basis, I'd be more or less inclined to agree. In such a situation, whilst his reputation would still suffer if we were to go down, locally, the Newcastle fans wouldn't hold him accountable, and they'd be content going into next season with him as manager. If Shearer had taken up the job on a permanent basis, I myself would be content, relegation or no relegation - my view is that Shearer won't take a job on a permanent basis without seeking assurances, without being able to manage entirely as he sees fit - so I'd go along content in the knowledge that he was here for the long haul and felt himself in control of proceedings.

As it is, he has only been appointed for eight games, until the end of the season. And I think it is impossible to know what will happen after that point. I think there is the chance that he's accepted the role simply because he desperately wants us to stay up; and that no talks regarding the longer term future have taken place. If we are relegated and he leaves in the summer, whether by choice or by force, then his reputation will suffer significantly, and it will be hard for him to return to the club at a later point.

Oh here's a thread

A lie, I say

What has happened to Joe Kinnear? I thought he signed a long term deal a couple of months ago.

2 points from 8 Glenns wrote:What has happened to Joe Kinnear? I thought he signed a long term deal a couple of months ago.

Wasn't that only until the end of the season?

Costinha! wrote:

2 points from 8 Glenns wrote:What has happened to Joe Kinnear? I thought he signed a long term deal a couple of months ago.

Wasn't that only until the end of the season?

That is long term for a newcastle manager

Why isn't this on the Newcastle OS yet?

The Newcastle site isn't very good when it comes to confirming or denying major stories. The major stories are the ones we don't deign to confirm. There's a suggestion that we are to release a statement later today, and that Shearer might not be unveiled until tomorrow. I think the story would have been denied by now if not true, but confirmation would still be nice.

Kinnear was reportedly offered a long term deal in January, but at the time he said he'd wait to the end of the season before talking things over and signing it. As things stand, he is only on a contract until the summer - but the suggestion recently has been that he's been told, by his doctors, that he shouldn't manage us again this season. His role in Shearer's appointment, and what the appointment means for him, are things that are obviously unclear, but I get the impression that he isn't desperate to return to management.

Some bloke on Sky just described Jonas as a "bitter disappointment"...bit harsh?

a bookmakers offered 100-1 for him to score a goal this season. It was backed so heavily they dropped it to 20-1 and now they're saying it was an April fool and all bets are off.

Iain Dowie appointed Shearer's number 2

2 points from 8 Glenns wrote:Iain Dowie appointed Shearer's number 2

borocooper wrote:Some bloke on Sky just described Jonas as a "bitter disappointment"...bit harsh?

I'd describe Coloccini as a bitter disappointment, but not Jonas.

Definately better than anyone in Holland

Luis wrote:

2 points from 8 Glenns wrote:Iain Dowie appointed Shearer's number 2

HAHAHAHAHA. Dowie is a better manager than Chris Hughton, and no one is pissing themselves about him being on the coaching team.

Didn't Dowie get his players to take up kickboxing when he was at Palace?

As if Joey Barton needs any more encouragement...

Kimbo wrote:HAHAHAHAHA. Dowie is a better manager than Chris Hughton, and no one is pissing themselves about him being on the coaching team.

Chris Hughton has always been a good no. 2 or 3, that's why he was an assistant for every Spurs manager in my time supporting them right up to Jol. Everybody knows that he's not a manager.

Costinha! wrote:Didn't Dowie get his players to take up kickboxing when he was at Palace?

As if Joey Barton needs any more encouragement...

He got them to take up yoga and ballet dancing didnt he?

Costinha! wrote:

Kimbo wrote:HAHAHAHAHA. Dowie is a better manager than Chris Hughton, and no one is pissing themselves about him being on the coaching team.

Chris Hughton has always been a good no. 2 or 3, that's why he was an assistant for every Spurs manager in my time supporting them right up to Jol. Everybody knows that he's not a manager.

Hughton is useless, he just stands there with his clipboard, bewildered. He probably apologizes for starting sentences without saying "excuse me sir", even to academy players. 100% pussy.

Cesc Soler wrote:Just confirmed.

Win - Win situation for Shearer.

Newcastle go down, it will be the two before him that got the club relegated. On the other hand if they avoid the drop, he becomes even more of a legend.

100% spot on.

With the fixtures they have and the position they are in...no blame goes to Shearer...If they stay up, he does indeed become even more of a legend.

He's a clever man!

Hughton is the biggest lump of shit in football

Well he did come from Spurs...